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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 26 2011 20:09 GMT
#121
yeh I like the change,deffiantly a step in the right direction, means u can try for 2 months solid on laddering 1v1 and know how long its going togo on for!!!
Live and Let Die!
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
September 26 2011 20:12 GMT
#122
On September 27 2011 03:47 RoboBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 03:03 RivalryRedux wrote:
Ugh I just want to be rid of the stupid bonus pool in Masters+. Like over half the division always has people with tons of unused bonus points which makes the division competition seem like a farce. Basically just being active puts you in the top 25 of the division (probably higher below masters) and then you have to manually go through and check everyone's bonus pool to see where you really stand.

Uhhh shorter seasons will make all divisions more competitive, not less.

Shorter seasons = less bonus pool

less bonus pool = players more equally measured against each other

The longer that the season goes on, the more that bonus pools screws up actual ranking. So shortening the season is good.

This is a step towards removing the bonus pool entirely. I think it's tough to argue against that.


Whether you have bonus points or not, you are still paired up against people with a similar MMR. So this change will not ensure that "players [are] more equally measured against each other."
Mercurial#1193
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
September 26 2011 20:14 GMT
#123
300 Points right now... with 790 bonus... TIME TO DRAIN IT FAAAAAAAAAAAST FUCK!!!! 7-3 will soon be 50-63...lol
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 26 2011 20:17 GMT
#124
I'm unsure about the whole map situation tho.

As long as they put in some GSL or maps from former CCup mapteam I wouldn't mind at all to learn them, but if they are going to remove ~3 maps every other month and add 3 new bad maps made by Blizzard themself that I have to learn I will get pissed probably lol.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
September 26 2011 20:18 GMT
#125
This will help the GM league be more indicative of the top 200 players, rather than the top 200 MMR during the week of reset.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 26 2011 20:23 GMT
#126
I like where they're going. I think 2 months is perfectly fine.
BondGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
61 Posts
September 26 2011 20:27 GMT
#127
If the only reason for shortening the season is people mostly play during the first 8 weeks, this could have a lot of unintended consequences. What if people play for the first 8 weeks and then take a break for a while? You are taking away their time from other games. Starcraft is great and all, but people want to play other stuff.

What is someone can't play the first ~2 weeks of a season, they might think "well I'll just wait to jump in on the next one in a month" and not play at all. Or if they get off to a poor start they could give up and wait for the reset.

How about the fact that there are going to be 6 seasons per year. The honor of being ranked highly in a season is reduced dramatically. "Hey, I was rank 1 in Master in June-July of 2013" seems a lot less of an accomplishment than "I was rank 1 Master fall 2013".

I am just tossing some ideas out there why it is not a good idea to turn seasons into a assembly line. In my opinion, there will be a lot of negative consequences which will drive away people more then encouraging them to play.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#128
I must admit i have split feelings about this, on the one hand the longish seasons have problems with the bonus pool and the maps become stale to a certain extent, on the other hand 2 months is very short, if they stick to changing the maps every season there is not much time there to adapt to the new maps and think of fun builds before they change it.

Frankly the idea "i was XY in Season XY" is something I have never cared about, so from that point of view i really don't care. I agree with the change mostly because i like playing different maps, so more map changes is better for me than less, the danger in this area though is that the new maps might be sub-par (as we've had happen in the past).
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 26 2011 20:40 GMT
#129
three was perfect dont see a reason to change it
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:56:51
September 26 2011 20:49 GMT
#130
Weed out the people who quit in a more efficient fashion. Less ladder data for Blizzard to store. Half of my division has like 4-5 games played since the start of the season. You basically can't get out of top 25 in it because everyone else has so few points, and the top 8 are people who play more than on weekends only.

Also, they should shrink the map ladder pool but change the entire thing each time, but still include vetos and maybe experiment with community or GSL maps. I would love to have Daybreak on ladder. Though I'm sure it would have to be covered in destructible rocks before it could be used in ladder.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Kimla
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden400 Posts
September 26 2011 20:54 GMT
#131
I like this
no gg no skill
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
September 26 2011 20:56 GMT
#132
although my reactionary gut says it's too short, even a few weeks ago i caught myself thinking 'i wonder when this season will end?'
this is a good thing, far better than spending months in a stacked league, etc.
There can be only none
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:02:41
September 26 2011 20:57 GMT
#133
On September 27 2011 05:49 Ben... wrote:
I would love to have Daybreak on ladder.

i fully agree with what Ben.... says. Probably the best map ever based on the quality of the games i see on it.

edit: i know it's a pro/macro map, people can TD it if they want quicker games.
There can be only none
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 20:58:55
September 26 2011 20:58 GMT
#134
So is the season currently locked? The way theyre wording it probably means its not locked just yet.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:02:04
September 26 2011 21:00 GMT
#135
On September 27 2011 05:40 CoR wrote:
three was perfect dont see a reason to change it

Same here, I don't see any problem with the current situation for seasons.

Unless they start adding GSL maps
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
September 26 2011 21:01 GMT
#136
No complaints here.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
IronSaint
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
September 26 2011 21:02 GMT
#137
I have to say that I've been wondering when this season is going to be over. The change seems to be good but like all things involving Blizzard I guess only time will tell. The season going on right now has to be my most active one and maybe with the shorter seasons I'll be inclined to play more. I feel like when they added the "Career" tab to the profiles tab that Blizzard had been planning this for some time.

As some have said that accomplishments won't be as recognized now with the shorter seasons since it will all disappear, but with the careers tab everything you need to know about how much you've progressed over the past few seasons will be there.
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
September 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#138
If they just were to remove the bonus pool, now that would be awesome.
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
September 26 2011 21:04 GMT
#139
I like this because bonus pool is just stupid in general,and now there will be less of it so
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:07:06
September 26 2011 21:06 GMT
#140
you mean the the 8 month season 1 wasn't long? lol.

2 months sounds ok but seriously who cares about ladder? seriously.... i'm number 1 masters in 2s and 3s and like half of my league just did placements and tahts it.
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