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On September 27 2011 07:28 whoopadeedoo wrote: Every quarter makes perfect sense to me (winter/fall/spring/summer). 3 month is the ideal duration IMO. 2 months is too short. agree, it's not easy to get to top of the ladder then reset lol
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Yeah well... i dont really like this change. Too much rotation IMO. How am i supossed to learn the map inside and out in just 2 months?
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great, and i just got demoted from platinum.
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On September 27 2011 07:12 CycoDude wrote: bleh, i only really ladder once i get a large bonus pool. no pool = i don't ladder. if you think about it, assuming 50% win rate and no bonus pool, everyone would be ranked the same. right now i have 300 in 1v1 bonus pool, which equals roughly 25 games. it's not so hard to grind that in the last couple weeks of the season.
inactives in ladder = who cares; it doesn't affect anything. if you play, you move up the ladder past them.
mmr reset is a stupid idea; especially for the higher leagues. can you imagine having to grind 50+ games just to get back into masters every two months?
large maps do not favor newbs at all; small maps are much easier to manage. reason being large maps are typically macro oriented, and newbs generally suck at macro. i speak from experience LOL!
as for new maps in the rotation, who says there will be? if there are, what makes you think they'll be any good based on past results? i'll keep my fingers crossed personally...the team maps are at least decent i think. blizzard can always change season length if two months is too short so i'm not sweating it. 50 games?! It takes like 20 games to get a new account into master league assuming you're not losing a bunch.
while it's true that a large map is typically going to be better for a good player when playing a weaker player, the way the ladder works relatively quickly the newbs should be playing the newbs, in which case they both suck at macro 
Why is it that you only ladder if you have bonus pool? Considering everyone receives the same bonus pool, it doesn't really have any effect on your rating... Also, if everyone had 50% winrate with no bonus pool, they wouldn't end up equivalently ranked because of MMR meaning some people are favored vs others :O.
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On September 27 2011 07:43 Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 07:12 CycoDude wrote: bleh, i only really ladder once i get a large bonus pool. no pool = i don't ladder. if you think about it, assuming 50% win rate and no bonus pool, everyone would be ranked the same. right now i have 300 in 1v1 bonus pool, which equals roughly 25 games. it's not so hard to grind that in the last couple weeks of the season.
inactives in ladder = who cares; it doesn't affect anything. if you play, you move up the ladder past them.
mmr reset is a stupid idea; especially for the higher leagues. can you imagine having to grind 50+ games just to get back into masters every two months?
large maps do not favor newbs at all; small maps are much easier to manage. reason being large maps are typically macro oriented, and newbs generally suck at macro. i speak from experience LOL!
as for new maps in the rotation, who says there will be? if there are, what makes you think they'll be any good based on past results? i'll keep my fingers crossed personally...the team maps are at least decent i think. blizzard can always change season length if two months is too short so i'm not sweating it. 50 games?! It takes like 20 games to get a new account into master league assuming you're not losing a bunch. while it's true that a large map is typically going to be better for a good player when playing a weaker player, the way the ladder works relatively quickly the newbs should be playing the newbs, in which case they both suck at macro Why is it that you only ladder if you have bonus pool? Considering everyone receives the same bonus pool, it doesn't really have any effect on your rating... Also, if everyone had 50% winrate with no bonus pool, they wouldn't end up equivalently ranked because of MMR meaning some people are favored vs others :O.
holy color lol
also i feel that 3months is the best length, 2 isnt nearly enough
edit: also if you're in masters you dont have to work your way back every season -_-
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On September 27 2011 07:32 EternalSC wrote: Yeah well... i dont really like this change. Too much rotation IMO. How am i supossed to learn the map inside and out in just 2 months?
Think of it this way tho. With a 2 month season they can drop bad maps quicker. If they made new maps which are good they won't get replaced next season so we will be able to play them longer.
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On September 27 2011 07:27 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 07:17 Torte de Lini wrote: WTF? 2 months for a ladder season? that's ridiculous, why shorten them? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3229387002#4Show nested quote +Daxxarri, Community Manager, wrote: Players have fairly consistently tended to exhibit more activity during the first eight weeks of a season. It's not unreasonable to conclude from that pattern that a shorter season will also lead to a more dynamic season, since a greater number of players are likely to be active.
It doesn't make sense. Why do they only play for the first 8 weeks? Is it because it's a new season or because of something else?
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On September 27 2011 06:18 Jakkerr wrote: There is a very simple reason for this. Dustin Browder still had so many places to put rocks on, but there weren't enough maps anymore. With a 2month season instead of 4month he can now fulfill his fantasy of putting twice as much rocks. Ahaha that's funny.
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Incoming ladder daybreak! With rocks at the natural and third!
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Seems like a good change to me, hopefully it will reduce inactivity.
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On September 27 2011 07:46 unit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 07:43 Insane wrote:On September 27 2011 07:12 CycoDude wrote: bleh, i only really ladder once i get a large bonus pool. no pool = i don't ladder. if you think about it, assuming 50% win rate and no bonus pool, everyone would be ranked the same. right now i have 300 in 1v1 bonus pool, which equals roughly 25 games. it's not so hard to grind that in the last couple weeks of the season.
inactives in ladder = who cares; it doesn't affect anything. if you play, you move up the ladder past them.
mmr reset is a stupid idea; especially for the higher leagues. can you imagine having to grind 50+ games just to get back into masters every two months?
large maps do not favor newbs at all; small maps are much easier to manage. reason being large maps are typically macro oriented, and newbs generally suck at macro. i speak from experience LOL!
as for new maps in the rotation, who says there will be? if there are, what makes you think they'll be any good based on past results? i'll keep my fingers crossed personally...the team maps are at least decent i think. blizzard can always change season length if two months is too short so i'm not sweating it. 50 games?! It takes like 20 games to get a new account into master league assuming you're not losing a bunch. while it's true that a large map is typically going to be better for a good player when playing a weaker player, the way the ladder works relatively quickly the newbs should be playing the newbs, in which case they both suck at macro Why is it that you only ladder if you have bonus pool? Considering everyone receives the same bonus pool, it doesn't really have any effect on your rating... Also, if everyone had 50% winrate with no bonus pool, they wouldn't end up equivalently ranked because of MMR meaning some people are favored vs others :O. holy color lolalso i feel that 3months is the best length, 2 isnt nearly enough edit: also if you're in masters you dont have to work your way back every season -_- It's a new posting style I'm pioneering to make it easier to identify which section you're responding to where! The whole point he was making with regards to it taking 50 games was if you in fact did reset MMR, in which case you would have to re-earn it each season as opposed to playing a single game and placing into it.
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so stupid... hate ladder more and more...
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On September 27 2011 01:43 Scigrex wrote: 2 months seems a little too short. I personally think 3 months is the sweet spot for season length. This. The current 4 month season feel a little stretched specially for such a driven and active community. 3 months should be fine to really make it a "season" yet still be on time with new map pools etc.
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I find that change really cool and this have nothing to do with placement , leagues and stuff. For me the ladder placement doesn't matter at all. The reason why I thing that shorter seasons are better is that they can change the map pool more frequently. Some maps are imbalanced(shatered temple), some are just bad(searing crater) and must be removed ASAP.
Will Blizzard do it is completely different discussion :D
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On September 27 2011 01:44 birdkicker wrote: Would be nice if mmr was to be reset for once... Why would this be nice?
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On September 27 2011 07:28 whoopadeedoo wrote: Every quarter makes perfect sense to me (winter/fall/spring/summer). 3 month is the ideal duration IMO. 2 months is too short.
I agree. 3 months also makes sense with the word "Season" (sports and sitcoms aside). 2 months seems a bit a short for me.
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4 Seasons in a year is perfect IMO. Allows for plenty of time to get to the top of your division/get promoted and allows maps to be used but not OVERused.
With the ladder locking for two weeks (?) at the end of every season, this leaves only 6 weeks to compete within your division and get promoted/demoted. Too small of a window for a dynamic game such as SC2
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I hope this means they take out terrible maps more often
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don't care about ladder seasons, just wish for a better map pool even a master+ only map pool using popular tournament maps would be great since blizzard's excuse for bad maps right now has been that casual players like them
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Fantastic, I'll finally get back into GM.
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