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Given how ladder rank is purposely designed to be a very crude representation of skill/MMR, especially below masters, any changes to ladder strike me as silly.
After gathering data for several seasons now we’ve come to the conclusion that shortening the seasons will better match how most people are playing the game, and support a more dynamic, rewarding, and vibrant ladder experience. Assuming they're seeing that people tend to play the most when ladder seasons are fresh, I'm not sure how shortening the seasons will make them any more "dynamic" and "rewarding".
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I'm wondering if the other reason they are doing this (the first being that they think the first 8 weeks of a season are more active) is that they will be able to roll out balance patches (if there are some to roll out) at the beginning of a season only so that the numbers for balance are nicely divided rather than affecting balance data halfway through a season.
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GSL maps please! Really not looking forwards to playing on crappy/ugly maps.
Question: how does placement work from season to season? Do you have to play some more placement matches or what?
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On September 27 2011 06:09 willoc wrote: I'm wondering if the other reason they are doing this (the first being that they think the first 8 weeks of a season are more active) is that they will be able to roll out balance patches (if there are some to roll out) at the beginning of a season only so that the numbers for balance are nicely divided rather than affecting balance data halfway through a season. this would be smart.
it would also mean they might sort out ghosts soon (oh yes, i went there )
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There is a very simple reason for this. Dustin Browder still had so many places to put rocks on, but there weren't enough maps anymore. With a 2month season instead of 4month he can now fulfill his fantasy of putting twice as much rocks.
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i don't like this, I'd much rather have each season be three months at a time, two months just makes the ladders so ridiculously volatile
I also don't want the map pools changing every two months, just when I'm starting to get my builds down and figuring out what works on which map and what doesn't
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I'm not really sure how I feel about it. It's not like it really matters though. I feel the placement matches don't really do much for your actual "placement".
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On September 27 2011 05:57 akaname wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 05:49 Ben... wrote: I would love to have Daybreak on ladder. i fully agree with what Ben.... says. Probably the best map ever based on the quality of the games i see on it. edit: i know it's a pro/macro map, people can TD it if they want quicker games. the problem isn't so much that it is a macro map, the problem is that it is VERY zerg favored on the diamond and below level. Blizzard isn't completly stupid you know?
The GSL maps are made and balanced for the pro level, Tal'Darim the only GSL map in the ladder is VERY heavily zerg favored according to Blizzards statistics simply because it is so big and runbys are so easy on it.
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Can someone point out to me where it says season 3 is close to its end? i cant find it
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really dumb question ><
so when exactly is season 3 ending?
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On September 27 2011 01:48 Onox wrote: I think two months is perfect. Would be more enjoyable for maps to change around more often.
This but also hope that they start including more korean made or iccup made maps into the pool.
They try to make the game noob friendly but honestly big maps favor noobs too so they dont get rolled in the first 4 minutes of a game.
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I don't mind how long seasons are as long as the map pool is decent.
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On September 27 2011 01:44 birdkicker wrote: Would be nice if mmr was to be reset for once...
I don't see any point of ever resetting MMR other than the expansion releases. The ladder promotion system works quite well, and imo if you deserve to be in a league and play a few games a day for at most one week, you'll be in that league no matter what your MMR was at the start
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bleh, i only really ladder once i get a large bonus pool. no pool = i don't ladder. if you think about it, assuming 50% win rate and no bonus pool, everyone would be ranked the same. right now i have 300 in 1v1 bonus pool, which equals roughly 25 games. it's not so hard to grind that in the last couple weeks of the season.
inactives in ladder = who cares; it doesn't affect anything. if you play, you move up the ladder past them.
mmr reset is a stupid idea; especially for the higher leagues. can you imagine having to grind 50+ games just to get back into masters every two months?
large maps do not favor newbs at all; small maps are much easier to manage. reason being large maps are typically macro oriented, and newbs generally suck at macro. i speak from experience LOL!
as for new maps in the rotation, who says there will be? if there are, what makes you think they'll be any good based on past results? i'll keep my fingers crossed personally...the team maps are at least decent i think. blizzard can always change season length if two months is too short so i'm not sweating it.
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WTF? 2 months for a ladder season? that's ridiculous, why shorten them?
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New season should come with new maps. Need to get rid of some ridiculous rush map
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On September 27 2011 07:19 tuho12345 wrote:New season should come with new maps. Need to get rid of some ridiculous rush map The current map pool isn't too bad. I think I have only used one veto on that searing crater or whatever map (which is completely awful). If they would just get rid of close positions in some maps it would make it even better. But I agree. I like new maps and hope to get some awesome ones added to the pool.
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On September 27 2011 07:17 Torte de Lini wrote: WTF? 2 months for a ladder season? that's ridiculous, why shorten them? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3229387002#4
Daxxarri, Community Manager, wrote: Players have fairly consistently tended to exhibit more activity during the first eight weeks of a season. It's not unreasonable to conclude from that pattern that a shorter season will also lead to a more dynamic season, since a greater number of players are likely to be active.
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Every quarter makes perfect sense to me (winter/fall/spring/summer). 3 month is the ideal duration IMO. 2 months is too short.
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