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Naniwa and Team Dignitas Part Ways - Page 21

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Swiftly
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland160 Posts
September 20 2011 16:20 GMT
#401
this was the most obvious thing ever i mean seeing fenix go now nani and next tzain guessing st naniwa and slayer thorzain cuz they like terran
"If you dont like the smell of burning meat then get the fuck off the planet" - Immortal Technique
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#402
On September 21 2011 01:17 FairForever wrote:
Not nearly as bad, I'd consider HuK a lot less BM although he hasn't always acted in the smartest way (though I wouldn't call it BM). He was also a contributor to the community and I can't see Naniwa being that.

I think TL is going in the direction of signing players with good reputation in the community and with a lot of skill (see: Sheth).

And HuK would've stayed on TL had TL offered him similar money, or I believe so (from what TL has said). What makes you think TL can offer Naniwa the salary he wants if they couldn't afford to keep HuK?


???
So I guess one level of BM is... acceptable as long as it isn't another level of... BM?
And... what contributions...? girl blog posts...?

And yeah that's the point i was making, TL couldn't match EG's offer.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
September 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#403
WTF!? That was unexpected =O
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
September 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#404
Doesn't seem that unexpected to me. I think Naniwa would really love to join a Korean team. And I think the Korean teams would be a little crazy not to want him.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#405
On September 21 2011 01:20 ishboh wrote:
hmmm, mouz would make sense...maybe liquid is looking to replace Huk?

edit: although they have hero now...


Mouz doesn't make much sense. Why would he chose a team that have 0 players in Korea or plans of it (as far as I know)?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#406
On September 21 2011 01:13 falafelnr1 wrote:
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On September 21 2011 01:08 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:06 FairForever wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:02 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:59 FairForever wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:56 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:54 GrungyMunchy wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:52 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'd say Liquid`Naniwa though I can see Nazgul not wanting to sign him. Other than that I think it would be the best deal for him.


o.o

Why wouldn't he want to sign him?

For the most part, he's just really really really passionate about winning.

Liquid usually is very strict in signing players regarding their personality and value to the community. Though Naniwa is undoubtely a great player, I don't know if he fits Liquid profile.


troll?? have you ever heard Nani speak? ever? he has like the most awesome personality, watch SotG episode 41, hes hilarious, look at the DH Valencia picture, he has a great sense of humour; look at Thorzain and naniwa TL attacks. nani would be an AWESOME addition to TL. hey, hey, Nazgul...MOAR SWEDES PLZ :D lol


Umm...

Not showing up to TSL Finals party after losing to Thorzain
Complaining about close map position at EU Blizzcon Qualifiers after losing to Ret (and going "hehe" when he scouts the close pos)

And those are the recent ones when he was part of Dignitas (not even the ones long before). Just because he's hilarious (just like Idra) doesn't mean he's BM and a bad fit for TL. Also if they were gonna shell out the money for Nani they would've just found a way to keep HuK, I'm pretty sure Naniwa is going to command a salary at a comparable level.


im not saying he's BM at all, close positions on shattered temple is ridiculous, not going to the party after getting 2nd place, maybe he was sad? disappointed? tired? hes not BM, and i honestly think hed take a regular salary for a chance to train in a good pro house in kore (OGS-TL) since he wants to be the best above all else. he is always mad at himself when he takes 2nd, THATS how dedicated he is to this game


Uhh he was pretty BM before (do you have short memory?). He's an exceptional player but that doesn't mean he's a good fit for TL.


people CHANGE, he was bm a long time ago when he was hitting a very rough patch in his life, he said in an interview that he was angry and depressed at life and took it out on his opponents and that he realized that that was the wrong thing to do and that he would behave properly now because of the chances he was given by both Empire and Dignitas

User was warned for this post


Why was this guy warned ? :/

I honestly have no idea.
Anyway, I hope a good team pick him up, he deserves as much.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 20 2011 16:22 GMT
#407
wow. i love team dignitas, so seeing this hurts. =( best wishes to naniwa still in his future, and lets hope dignitas is able to continue to excel!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
September 20 2011 16:22 GMT
#408
On September 21 2011 01:10 FairForever wrote:
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On September 21 2011 01:10 VillageBC wrote:
Team Reign? They have a team house on the way, and ign(?) backing I believe. Might be too big a salary for them though. Assuming he wants money similar to players of his calibre, that kind of limits his team options to the big guys with money. EG, FXO(already said no), TL(?), coL, fnatic, mouz, mill(?).


The Team House is in San Francisco I believe. How does this help Nani who wants to stay in Korea?


Sometimes you can't always everything you want, sometimes you take the money. SlayerS still needs to bolster their non-Terran lineup IMO and apparently have decent funding.

I don't think it would be EG, maybe but they already have an excellent Protoss in Huk (even if I think Naniwa is better) and I just can't see the sponsors shelling out for Idra, Huk, Puma and Naniwa. While not having details on the contracts, I assume are making decent money.
ilikeLIONZ
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany427 Posts
September 20 2011 16:22 GMT
#409
i hope it's not EG, they always got that negative taste to it.

the best for nani would probably be coL.MVP since he can stay in the MVP house and some players there can talk a decent english. think of DRG

nani teaming up with genius.. what a dream!
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
September 20 2011 16:22 GMT
#410
That's it, with all this drama I'm starting an e-sports tabloid
aut0mati0n
Profile Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
September 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#411
8 month contract, which expired today. Seems like there was probably negotiations up to this point, so I would assume it's a money issue/training in Korea issue. I'm mostly leaning towards EG as a good place for him to go because they will have the house in Korea and should be able to fly him out for foreign events. And EG seems like they want to be the team with the best players (and to an extent, best foreigners) outside of Korea.
Exsonic
Profile Joined June 2011
China124 Posts
September 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#412
MVPNaniwa????
NesTea>DongReaGu≈Losira
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
September 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#413
TL I would love you 10 fold if you picked up Nani. He never used to be the type of player TL would pick up, but he has seemed like has changed for the better.


GOGOGOGO
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
September 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#414
SaSe and Nani starting a brotoss only team together?
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
September 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#415
On September 21 2011 01:18 ZAiNs wrote:
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On September 21 2011 01:16 SoapSC wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:13 Abrafred wrote:
NSHoseoNaniwa lol.. most improbable scenario ever


NSHoseo isn't a team, its a clan with players who are able to participate in team leagues without leaving their team

I'm pretty sure it's a team who actually live together, Artosis did a tour of their team house a while back.

NSHoSeo is a team
NSP is a clan (Bomber, Genius, Jiakji come to mind)
HoSeo is a University, which sponsors the team, some (if not most?) of the players are also studying there and only a few live in the house, which is in the university iirc


really hope nani finds a good team that supports his attitude and enables him to live his dream, I could see him go to a korean team as well as TL/Col/Fnatic
bisu
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
September 20 2011 16:24 GMT
#416
On September 21 2011 01:18 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:15 Gotmog wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:08 zeru wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:07 Whiteman103 wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:01 zeru wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:00 CanucksJC wrote:
If NaNiwa joins EG, I'm gonna be really really really REALLY mad. Hope he joins a Korean team instead.

I feel the same way. It would just suck if he joined EG Contradicting most of his previous statements about how he only cares about being the best.


LOL he would not be contradicing himself if he joins EG. puma huk idra nani in korean house on korean ladder.

Every single korean team is better.

You despise EG, we get it.


He might despise EG, but he's right


he might be right but there is not much of a difference with some practice games with korean team and communication issues and the korean ladder. with EG house in korea with puma, huk, idra. nani will have communication and the korean ladder yea nani will miss the little korean team practice.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 20 2011 16:24 GMT
#417
On September 21 2011 01:15 hifriend wrote:
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On September 21 2011 00:42 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
Naniwa strikes me as a player, even unlike IdrA, that has a totally callous attitude towards the community as a whole, and I could see such an attitude leaking into his interactions with other players/management and his own team. I highly doubt a team like EG or Liquid would pick him up for these reasons alone, and if I had to guess if he doesn't sign with a team like coL or Fnatic, he will likely go teamless for a short period of time before being picked up by another European team (maybe mouz or mym.)

I have tremendous respect for Naniwa as a player, but he just doesn't seem to care about much of anything besides winning tournaments. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it will certainly effect his surroundings and future opportunities. Best of luck to him either way.

Naniwa has a lot of fans, I think people really like that sheer determination in him. That's his appeal, it works and it's kind of unique.

Me too. NaNiwa is like a more determined and more talented version of HuK IMO. HuK talks big a lot but NaNiwa actually performs. Currently, he does seem to be in a bit of a mental slump regarding the state of Protoss though.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
dsll
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom143 Posts
September 20 2011 16:24 GMT
#418
wooow korean team 1000%
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
September 20 2011 16:25 GMT
#419
On September 21 2011 00:35 Tommylew wrote:
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On September 21 2011 00:31 Frankon wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:15 Zlasher wrote:
This is actually gigantic, I'm quite surprised to see this news. The way I see it only a really big money team, or MAYBE a Korean team could afford the pay Naniwa will probably seek. which narrows it to what...EG and a few other teams, and then maybe a Korean team or two?

Seriously big news, he has to be the biggest foreign free agent since Idra during Gamescom 2010.

So incontrol would be relagated to 3rd string?

Ok joking aside.

EG has a strong Prottos (HUK) it doesnt need another one.
Liquid.... Well it was laking in P department but with Hero Naniwa isnt needed...
Col. Tried getting Stephano (aparently failed), picking Naniwa would be wise for them cause their rooster is several lacking of some good and well knows players.
FXO. Boss stated that they arent interested.
Mouz... MaNa, HasuObs... Do we really need another protoss?

New team... All the teamless foreigners in korea create a new super team


umm from what FXO.Boss posted I actually got the opinion they didnt come to an agreement not that they didnt want him

if they would really want him he would get him... remember Boss bought Fou. Buying Naniwa shouldnt be a problem if he really wanted him
Gnarfle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden170 Posts
September 20 2011 16:25 GMT
#420
I doubt this is all that much about Naniwa getting a better offer as him wanting to stay in Korea, Dignitas does not have that much of an interest in Naniwa staying in Korea. (Dignitas sponsors wants to be visible in europe/NA, not Korea)
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