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On September 21 2011 01:27 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:24 tyCe wrote:On September 21 2011 01:15 hifriend wrote:On September 21 2011 00:42 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
Naniwa strikes me as a player, even unlike IdrA, that has a totally callous attitude towards the community as a whole, and I could see such an attitude leaking into his interactions with other players/management and his own team. I highly doubt a team like EG or Liquid would pick him up for these reasons alone, and if I had to guess if he doesn't sign with a team like coL or Fnatic, he will likely go teamless for a short period of time before being picked up by another European team (maybe mouz or mym.)
I have tremendous respect for Naniwa as a player, but he just doesn't seem to care about much of anything besides winning tournaments. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it will certainly effect his surroundings and future opportunities. Best of luck to him either way. Naniwa has a lot of fans, I think people really like that sheer determination in him. That's his appeal, it works and it's kind of unique. Me too. NaNiwa is like a more determined and more talented version of HuK IMO. HuK talks big a lot but NaNiwa actually performs. Currently, he does seem to be in a bit of a mental slump regarding the state of Protoss though. HuK is in Code S (and he also got seeded into Code A), while Naniwa hasn't even made it out of the RO32 in Code A. They're pretty close in skill level but I'm not sure how you can say Naniwa is more determined and/or talented when his results are not as impressive as HuK's... (in the GSL, DH Summer, HSC III, etc.) - Naniwa outperformed at Blizzcon Qualifiers but HuK was a quite a bit jetlagged, and both do pretty well at MLGs nowadays.
Maybe we should give him a bit of time in korea before we make that judgement? I mean naniwa has been a step above every foreigner that hasn't been in korea for a considerable amount of time for a long time now.
I still don't think huk is on a different level than naniwa at this point, and korean practice is undeniably superior to foreign practice on NA/EU.
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On September 21 2011 01:23 Thobrik wrote:
SaSe and Nani starting a brotoss only team together?
Swedish brotoss in Korea Unite! Honestly knowing those two and how determined they are to remain in Korea it wouldn't surprise me if they remain teamless until they get the offers they want. Nani at blizzcon in casual wear would be kinda hilarious especially with everyone else stuffed into team uniforms.
This announcement makes me super sad though, Naniwa just seemed like such a good fit with Dignitas and I really liked the synergy of the team as a whole. Ah well I still support Dignitas and Nani so I hope everyone comes out of this well off.
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His gonna join a Korean team. 100%.
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On September 21 2011 01:33 Striding Strider wrote:
His gonna join a Korean team. 100%.
We could only hope this is true.
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dam sad to hear, can not wait to find out where he goes to next
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On September 21 2011 01:33 Striding Strider wrote:
His gonna join a Korean team. 100%.
Or, more likely, I think, a foreign team with a partnership with a Korean team (Liquid/coL).
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On September 21 2011 01:29 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 00:54 GrungyMunchy wrote:On September 21 2011 00:52 Gamegene wrote:On September 21 2011 00:52 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'd say Liquid`Naniwa though I can see Nazgul not wanting to sign him. Other than that I think it would be the best deal for him. o.o Why wouldn't he want to sign him? For the most part, he's just really really really passionate about winning. Liquid usually is very strict in signing players regarding their personality and value to the community. Though Naniwa is undoubtely a great player, I don't know if he fits Liquid profile. I'm not saying he's BM or anything people, I know he's not. I just think Liquid players usually have a great involvement in the community and believe it or not I really think that is very important for TL when they're looking for a player. Yet they have Ret and HayprO on their team who do no interaction with the community. Ret at least posts results. Tyler, TLO, and Sheth have all done community events and podcasts and stuff in addition to having a lot of fans and a few decent results. If TL can justify keeping HayprO, Naniwa would be a no brainer assuming they could afford him.
Ret and Haypro were brought in more than a year ago and were part of a tight group in the form of TL which in order to stay tight I'm guessing Nazgul has been since then much more careful as to who they would bring to that group. It took TL a whole 10 months before they would bring in other players, and you can tell Sheth's and Hero's additions were very carefully planned and thought. They've raised their standards if you will.
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coL.MVP looks like the best option, especially after the Stephano situation. I think TL could be another viable option but not that realistic imho. I don't think he'd like to join EG and the korean teams don't have salaries (well most of them).
So either coL.MVP/TL or IM. Wherever he might end up, I hope he keeps his great mentality and doesn't fall back into his old behaviour.
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why do so many people want to see nani in Liquid? Nazgul always stated that one need more than skill to be in Liquid and I can`t see him signing a player that has at least a "moody" mind. I admire Naniwas work ethic and wish him good luck, but I doubt his addition would help TLs spirit.
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I think is kind of obvius that Naniwa will be joining a Korean Team
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On September 21 2011 01:28 crocodile wrote:
Anyone else noticing a trend where foreign players convince their teams to let them go to Korea, then leave that team?
... What?
Jinro - > Still TL
HuK - > Was in Korea for a long time before going to EG
Sheth - > Didn't like the Korean experience, switched to Liquid
SaSe - > Won Road to Korea, no team support in that
Fenix - > MLG invite, Fnatic didn't have to pay much of it (stay covered by MLG)
ThorZain - > 1 month, still on Mouz
SeleCT - > Same as Thorzain but with Dignitas
SjoW - > Same as Select
NaNiwa - > MLG invite, same as Fenix
Fenix and NaNiwa wanted to stay for a long time in Korea but their teams either didn't have the financials to go ahead with it (plus travel to events), or didn't feel that it was in the sponsor's best interests.
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Good luck to nani for the future.
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On September 21 2011 01:33 Striding Strider wrote:
His gonna join a Korean team. 100%.
No HE IS not. Korean teams have no money and NaNi woudn't leave Dignitas if it wasn't about the money. 
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He will be best fitted in oGs-TL house.
im srs! IM has no good Protoss
however coL.MvP would be a lesser choice but still good one.
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Naniwa said he would stay in Korea forever if he could stay in GSL. I'm guessing that he's going to join whatever team lets him stay in Korea for years but will pay for trips to MLG and Dreamhack.
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Just remembered the Interview where IM's coach told Artosis that he wants to sign non-koreans. If I recall correctly, IM has some good sponsors (like Coca Cola, I think), so they're certainly looking like a possibility.On September 21 2011 01:38 ptrpb wrote:
Sheth - > Didn't like the Korean experience, switched to Liquid I believe Sheth said on SotG or something (maybe TL Attack?) that he actually wants to return to Korea, but he wants a place of his own. He said something like he wanted go go to his own place to sleep, wake up and chill. I might be totally wrong here, but I'm quite certain I heard him say something like that.
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Liquid`Naniwa , you heared it here first! 
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On September 21 2011 01:39 gehgrfhgrh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:33 Striding Strider wrote:
His gonna join a Korean team. 100%. No HE IS not. Korean teams have no money and NaNi woudn't leave Dignitas if it wasn't about the money.
Its not the money. He wants to be the best, and frankly, he would have a better chance being the best by joining a Korean team, regardless of the EG house in Korea.
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Its really only EG and Col.mvp I presume. EG have tried to take everyone good, so I feel thats most likely.
Unless he really wants to focus on getting better, and not on the money. But even then EG seems a decent choice with their incoming house..
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