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Naniwa and Team Dignitas Part Ways - Page 22

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Blossom
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom87 Posts
September 20 2011 16:25 GMT
#421
He would be a fantastic pick-up for any team. He'll be a big contract player, in my opinion- similar to Huk.

Best of luck to Naniwa.
Win
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 20 2011 16:25 GMT
#422
People keep bringing up Nani's expense when thinking of teams.

Did anyone think that Nani would be willing to take a pay cut to stay in Korea? He wants to be the best, not the richest.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 20 2011 16:26 GMT
#423
On September 21 2011 01:17 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:10 Gamegene wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:09 FairForever wrote:
You really don't understand the point. The fact is he has a history that precedes him. You're crazy if you think TL would want to pick up an expensive player like Naniwa, when they just let a better player (who also isn't nearly as BM) go.

I could see him going to other teams but not TL.


lol, HuK had a bm history that preceded him as well.
And they let a better player (who WAS nearly as BM as Naniwa WAS) go because EG's deal was quite a bit sweeter.


Not nearly as bad, I'd consider HuK a lot less BM although he hasn't always acted in the smartest way (though I wouldn't call it BM). He was also a contributor to the community and I can't see Naniwa being that.

I think TL is going in the direction of signing players with good reputation in the community and with a lot of skill (see: Sheth).

And HuK would've stayed on TL had TL offered him similar money, or I believe so (from what TL has said). What makes you think TL can offer Naniwa the salary he wants if they couldn't afford to keep HuK?

haypro = old maphacker
huk = notorious douche in bw and early sc2
nony = same as above in his early bw days


My guess is TL couldn't care less what stupid things these players did when they were younger if they have displayed good sportsmanship/attitude for a long time and if TL think they would fit in with their team.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
September 20 2011 16:26 GMT
#424
he has to be joining a Korean team. It seems odd he would leave after Select and Sjow arrived and are doing good
blah blah blah...
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
September 20 2011 16:27 GMT
#425
I called it a month ago :p
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
September 20 2011 16:27 GMT
#426
On September 21 2011 01:24 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:15 hifriend wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:42 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
Naniwa strikes me as a player, even unlike IdrA, that has a totally callous attitude towards the community as a whole, and I could see such an attitude leaking into his interactions with other players/management and his own team. I highly doubt a team like EG or Liquid would pick him up for these reasons alone, and if I had to guess if he doesn't sign with a team like coL or Fnatic, he will likely go teamless for a short period of time before being picked up by another European team (maybe mouz or mym.)

I have tremendous respect for Naniwa as a player, but he just doesn't seem to care about much of anything besides winning tournaments. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it will certainly effect his surroundings and future opportunities. Best of luck to him either way.

Naniwa has a lot of fans, I think people really like that sheer determination in him. That's his appeal, it works and it's kind of unique.

Me too. NaNiwa is like a more determined and more talented version of HuK IMO. HuK talks big a lot but NaNiwa actually performs. Currently, he does seem to be in a bit of a mental slump regarding the state of Protoss though.


HuK is in Code S (and he also got seeded into Code A), while Naniwa hasn't even made it out of the RO32 in Code A. They're pretty close in skill level but I'm not sure how you can say Naniwa is more determined and/or talented when his results are not as impressive as HuK's... (in the GSL, DH Summer, HSC III, etc.) - Naniwa outperformed at Blizzcon Qualifiers but HuK was a quite a bit jetlagged, and both do pretty well at MLGs nowadays.
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
September 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#427
Anyone else noticing a trend where foreign players convince their teams to let them go to Korea, then leave that team?
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#428
On September 21 2011 01:24 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:15 hifriend wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:42 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
Naniwa strikes me as a player, even unlike IdrA, that has a totally callous attitude towards the community as a whole, and I could see such an attitude leaking into his interactions with other players/management and his own team. I highly doubt a team like EG or Liquid would pick him up for these reasons alone, and if I had to guess if he doesn't sign with a team like coL or Fnatic, he will likely go teamless for a short period of time before being picked up by another European team (maybe mouz or mym.)

I have tremendous respect for Naniwa as a player, but he just doesn't seem to care about much of anything besides winning tournaments. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it will certainly effect his surroundings and future opportunities. Best of luck to him either way.

Naniwa has a lot of fans, I think people really like that sheer determination in him. That's his appeal, it works and it's kind of unique.

Me too. NaNiwa is like a more determined and more talented version of HuK IMO. HuK talks big a lot but NaNiwa actually performs. Currently, he does seem to be in a bit of a mental slump regarding the state of Protoss though.


He will join MVP and therefore coL.MVP, then he will do what Guillaume Patry couldn't do:
+ Show Spoiler +
Practice really hard.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
September 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#429
Korean team will be sick
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
September 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#430
its unlikely he'll join a korean team. a logical suggestion would be mouznaniwa
ProxyPL
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland230 Posts
September 20 2011 16:29 GMT
#431
head from Tarson that he wanted to join SlayerS. i'm intrested if he will
Proxy is like fire. Fire never dies alone!
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 20 2011 16:29 GMT
#432
On August 10 2011 21:33 Heosat wrote:
I apologise for overhyping the event, that was not my intention at all, but what I can say is this: it is the first item of a chain of news items.


Liquid´Naniwa yeah :-)

I see right through you Matt!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 20 2011 16:29 GMT
#433
On September 21 2011 00:54 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 00:52 Gamegene wrote:
On September 21 2011 00:52 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'd say Liquid`Naniwa though I can see Nazgul not wanting to sign him. Other than that I think it would be the best deal for him.


o.o

Why wouldn't he want to sign him?

For the most part, he's just really really really passionate about winning.

Liquid usually is very strict in signing players regarding their personality and value to the community. Though Naniwa is undoubtely a great player, I don't know if he fits Liquid profile.

I'm not saying he's BM or anything people, I know he's not. I just think Liquid players usually have a great involvement in the community and believe it or not I really think that is very important for TL when they're looking for a player.


Yet they have Ret and HayprO on their team who do no interaction with the community. Ret at least posts results. Tyler, TLO, and Sheth have all done community events and podcasts and stuff in addition to having a lot of fans and a few decent results.

If TL can justify keeping HayprO, Naniwa would be a no brainer assuming they could afford him.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
September 20 2011 16:29 GMT
#434
I think Complexity or Liquid would probably have the most to offer him in regards to foreign teams, both of them have links to Korean teams and access to strong practice environments.

He could just join a Korean team but that could limit his ability to travel due to financial constraints.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 20 2011 16:30 GMT
#435
Wow, some really big news. I wonder which team will pick him up.
Eyx
Profile Joined December 2010
England165 Posts
September 20 2011 16:30 GMT
#436
Slayers makes the most sense to me, korean and have the money or travel.
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
September 20 2011 16:30 GMT
#437
mouzNaniwa would be cool.
Dream team would be thorzain + naniwa + sase + morrow or something. Under which team I don't care :D
Bamm
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden279 Posts
September 20 2011 16:31 GMT
#438
Thats HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, :o
Bamm and the dirt is gone!
Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
September 20 2011 16:32 GMT
#439
Teams get em
hi
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
September 20 2011 16:32 GMT
#440
I hope he joins FXO Korea. Naniwa needs to stay in Korea to keep his skills up.
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