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On September 21 2011 00:42 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote: Naniwa strikes me as a player, even unlike IdrA, that has a totally callous attitude towards the community as a whole, and I could see such an attitude leaking into his interactions with other players/management and his own team. I highly doubt a team like EG or Liquid would pick him up for these reasons alone, and if I had to guess if he doesn't sign with a team like coL or Fnatic, he will likely go teamless for a short period of time before being picked up by another European team (maybe mouz or mym.)
I have tremendous respect for Naniwa as a player, but he just doesn't seem to care about much of anything besides winning tournaments. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it will certainly effect his surroundings and future opportunities. Best of luck to him either way. Naniwa has a lot of fans, I think people really like that sheer determination in him. That's his appeal, it works and it's kind of unique.
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On September 21 2011 01:15 Gotmog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:08 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:07 Whiteman103 wrote:On September 21 2011 01:01 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:00 CanucksJC wrote: If NaNiwa joins EG, I'm gonna be really really really REALLY mad. Hope he joins a Korean team instead. I feel the same way. It would just suck if he joined EG Contradicting most of his previous statements about how he only cares about being the best. LOL he would not be contradicing himself if he joins EG. puma huk idra nani in korean house on korean ladder. Every single korean team is better. You despise EG, we get it. Um you think that what the guy said isn't true? Because it is.
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I'm pretty amazed at how quickly people come to conclusions about these things on the strangest of whims.
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I'm 100% sure Nani is joining some Korean time. Would be sooo epic, such an amazing player. Anyway for me, Dignitas without Nani won't look as it was before... If not Select and Nani I don't realize how it could have been... T_T GOGO NANI!
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What....? I did not expect this
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On September 21 2011 01:13 falafelnr1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:08 PlaGuE_R wrote:On September 21 2011 01:06 FairForever wrote:On September 21 2011 01:02 PlaGuE_R wrote:On September 21 2011 00:59 FairForever wrote:On September 21 2011 00:56 PlaGuE_R wrote:On September 21 2011 00:54 GrungyMunchy wrote:On September 21 2011 00:52 Gamegene wrote:On September 21 2011 00:52 GrungyMunchy wrote: I'd say Liquid`Naniwa though I can see Nazgul not wanting to sign him. Other than that I think it would be the best deal for him. o.o Why wouldn't he want to sign him? For the most part, he's just really really really passionate about winning. Liquid usually is very strict in signing players regarding their personality and value to the community. Though Naniwa is undoubtely a great player, I don't know if he fits Liquid profile. troll?? have you ever heard Nani speak? ever? he has like the most awesome personality, watch SotG episode 41, hes hilarious, look at the DH Valencia picture, he has a great sense of humour; look at Thorzain and naniwa TL attacks. nani would be an AWESOME addition to TL. hey, hey, Nazgul...MOAR SWEDES PLZ :D lol Umm... Not showing up to TSL Finals party after losing to Thorzain Complaining about close map position at EU Blizzcon Qualifiers after losing to Ret (and going "hehe" when he scouts the close pos) And those are the recent ones when he was part of Dignitas (not even the ones long before). Just because he's hilarious (just like Idra) doesn't mean he's BM and a bad fit for TL. Also if they were gonna shell out the money for Nani they would've just found a way to keep HuK, I'm pretty sure Naniwa is going to command a salary at a comparable level. im not saying he's BM at all, close positions on shattered temple is ridiculous, not going to the party after getting 2nd place, maybe he was sad? disappointed? tired? hes not BM, and i honestly think hed take a regular salary for a chance to train in a good pro house in kore (OGS-TL) since he wants to be the best above all else. he is always mad at himself when he takes 2nd, THATS how dedicated he is to this game Uhh he was pretty BM before (do you have short memory?). He's an exceptional player but that doesn't mean he's a good fit for TL. people CHANGE, he was bm a long time ago when he was hitting a very rough patch in his life, he said in an interview that he was angry and depressed at life and took it out on his opponents and that he realized that that was the wrong thing to do and that he would behave properly now because of the chances he was given by both Empire and Dignitas User was warned for this post Why was this guy warned ? :/
curious too.
does anyone remember carmac talking about some big changes in the future? like regarding a top european? ))
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On September 21 2011 01:13 Abrafred wrote:NSHoseoNaniwa lol.. most improbable scenario ever
NSHoseo isn't a team, its a clan with players who are able to participate in team leagues without leaving their team
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On September 21 2011 01:10 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:09 FairForever wrote: You really don't understand the point. The fact is he has a history that precedes him. You're crazy if you think TL would want to pick up an expensive player like Naniwa, when they just let a better player (who also isn't nearly as BM) go.
I could see him going to other teams but not TL. lol, HuK had a bm history that preceded him as well. And they let a better player (who WAS nearly as BM as Naniwa WAS) go because EG's deal was quite a bit sweeter.
Not nearly as bad, I'd consider HuK a lot less BM although he hasn't always acted in the smartest way (though I wouldn't call it BM). He was also a contributor to the community and I can't see Naniwa being that.
I think TL is going in the direction of signing players with good reputation in the community and with a lot of skill (see: Sheth).
And HuK would've stayed on TL had TL offered him similar money, or I believe so (from what TL has said). What makes you think TL can offer Naniwa the salary he wants if they couldn't afford to keep HuK?
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Hmm, Dignitas loses their strongest P player.
I hope he finds a new team!
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On September 21 2011 01:16 SoapSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:13 Abrafred wrote:NSHoseoNaniwa lol.. most improbable scenario ever NSHoseo isn't a team, its a clan with players who are able to participate in team leagues without leaving their team I'm pretty sure it's a team who actually live together, Artosis did a tour of their team house a while back.
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Wow, hope he gets on a sick team.
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I don't think he'll want to go to an all Korean team for the simple reasons as not being able to communicate well.
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On September 21 2011 01:15 Gotmog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:08 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:07 Whiteman103 wrote:On September 21 2011 01:01 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:00 CanucksJC wrote: If NaNiwa joins EG, I'm gonna be really really really REALLY mad. Hope he joins a Korean team instead. I feel the same way. It would just suck if he joined EG Contradicting most of his previous statements about how he only cares about being the best. LOL he would not be contradicing himself if he joins EG. puma huk idra nani in korean house on korean ladder. Every single korean team is better. You despise EG, we get it.
He might despise EG, but he's right
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On September 21 2011 01:13 Whiteman103 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:08 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:07 Whiteman103 wrote:On September 21 2011 01:01 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:00 CanucksJC wrote: If NaNiwa joins EG, I'm gonna be really really really REALLY mad. Hope he joins a Korean team instead. I feel the same way. It would just suck if he joined EG Contradicting most of his previous statements about how he only cares about being the best. LOL he would not be contradicing himself if he joins EG. puma huk idra nani in korean house on korean ladder. Every single korean team is better. yea but they practice on the ladder so wont make that much of a difference
Having concentrated training sessions, and talking with a specific person is much more productive than hitting the ladder and hoping you get placed against a pro, who may or may not be taking the ladder seriously. You can prepare for specific matchups, maps, builds, etc. when you're playing with teammates. That's why pros have houses in the first place; if they could all be as effective just playing on the ladder, then there would be no reason to put them all in the same location, right?
Anyway, everyone has a price. Nani could get picked up by EG, if they reach his selling point, regardless of previous statements.
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On September 21 2011 01:18 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:16 SoapSC wrote:On September 21 2011 01:13 Abrafred wrote:NSHoseoNaniwa lol.. most improbable scenario ever NSHoseo isn't a team, its a clan with players who are able to participate in team leagues without leaving their team I'm pretty sure it's a team who actually live together, Artosis did a tour of their team house a while back.
Oops, mixed it up with NSP. You are right
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Man team's rosters seem to be very volatile right now. So man people leaving their teams and joining new ones.
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On September 21 2011 01:16 SoapSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:13 Abrafred wrote:NSHoseoNaniwa lol.. most improbable scenario ever NSHoseo isn't a team, its a clan with players who are able to participate in team leagues without leaving their team
No it's a proper team. It's clans are I believe NSP and a few remants of Zenith.
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hmmm, mouz would make sense...maybe liquid is looking to replace Huk?
edit: although they have hero now...
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On September 21 2011 01:17 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 01:15 Gotmog wrote:On September 21 2011 01:08 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:07 Whiteman103 wrote:On September 21 2011 01:01 zeru wrote:On September 21 2011 01:00 CanucksJC wrote: If NaNiwa joins EG, I'm gonna be really really really REALLY mad. Hope he joins a Korean team instead. I feel the same way. It would just suck if he joined EG Contradicting most of his previous statements about how he only cares about being the best. LOL he would not be contradicing himself if he joins EG. puma huk idra nani in korean house on korean ladder. Every single korean team is better. You despise EG, we get it. I do, but that is hardly the point. fwiw, I would be pretty disappointed if naniwa joined eg as well.. EG couldn't possibly provide the same practice environment as a korean house, and it would really contradict this whole amazing attitude he's had for the past 8 or so months. I really doubt he'd even consider joining EG tbh.
coL on the other hand would be perfectly understandable.. With coL he could have the benefit of living in a korean practice house, and get the salary he deserves plus the opportunity to travel to foreign events.
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