Another Neural Parasite Change. - Page 51

On September 16 2011 23:10 Xyik wrote:
My question is didn't they already try this? I might be wrong but I thought NP was originally 9 range in beta, then nerfed to 7, then buffed back up to 9 and now back to 7?

On September 16 2011 22:58 imbecile wrote:

ZvP: I scout exactly what he is doing, I'm ahead in economy, I make the counter, and I lose badly anyway. Yesterday I have lost a game against 2base tier2 protoss while being on 5 bases hive tech having double his worker and army supply with 15 infestors and he still walks right through my whole army and static defenses and kills main and natural and all tech before I can remax.

Or you could say they're punishing sloppy infestor control more. Or maybe they don't want infestors to counter colossi.

Buffing mech is good so TvZ isn't 100% marine/tank.

On September 16 2011 22:58 imbecile wrote:

ZvP: I scout exactly what he is doing, I'm ahead in economy, I make the counter, and I lose badly anyway. Yesterday I have lost a game against 2base tier2 protoss while being on 5 bases hive tech having double his worker and army supply with 15 infestors and he still walks right through my whole army and static defenses and kills main and natural and all tech before I can remax.

On September 16 2011 09:48 MrCon wrote:

I don't think the problem is OP or not, I think the problem is that the unit is good vs everything.
Want to push a base ? Spam infested terrans.
Bunch of T1 units ? Fungal solves.
Air ? See above.
He transition to T3 massive units ? Research neural.

The problem is especially in the ZvP matchup, as neural makes it that you need templars to protect your colossi, but the colossus/templar is a end game composition that necessitate at least 6 gas (8 is more realistic if you want some upgrades and stalkers too). But the infestors are perfect against the whole "life" of a protoss army. I think this nerf is way better than just removing neural, which was the practical effect of the previous nerf.

On September 16 2011 23:10 rdr wrote:
If i think about the zerg i think of corrupors being at the same lavel as vikings why not? And that they have a suicide button that you can press or maybe morphing in to a flying baneling.

On September 16 2011 03:46 Tuczniak wrote:
Im glad i started toss on PTR.
It was hard to get neural, now its even harder. I think they broke it anyway.

On September 16 2011 14:42 coL.CatZ wrote:


you argue that blizzard is balancing the game for lower skilled players, and then say that I can't talk about it cause im not as good as koreans mechanically, you're an incredibly funny person. I am known for strategy and I have more room to talk than most people who post on this thread when it comes to balance, especially when it comes to infestors, I've used infestors since the beta heavily and when they buffed Fungal Growth I told David Kim personally that it was a stupid change, that infestors were already good and people just don't use them because they're dumb. Fungal Growth buff was dumb, now infestors are getting increasingly popular because they're incredibly cost efficient units, just like sentrys, high templar, colossi, tanks, ghosts etc. there are plenty of ways to deal with heavy infestor play from both races, I say this because even though you may not consider me a top tier player, I play with a lot of people I consider to be top tier players on a regular basis and hold my own against anyone for the most part, and they all have good responses to any strategy. You can't balance a game for the lowest tier of players and expect for the game to be actually balanced at the top, reality is basic mechanics for zerg are a lot more complicated than they are for protoss, things of this nature will hurt the game if they try to balance from the bottom up, because if you want to improve zerg's win ratio at lower levels it'll make it too strong at the top for example. Reality here is you shouldn't be talking as if you knew anything or without any sort of argument other than 'koreans are better than you so shut up'... you are the reason most 'pro players' won't post on threads like this, not only is it not appreciated, there's always idiots like yourself trying to argue without any base, im done here, don't bother replying.

On September 16 2011 23:32 Philip2110 wrote:


Something wrong with how you play if that is happening. Not the game

On September 16 2011 22:58 imbecile wrote:
ZvP: I scout exactly what he is doing, I'm ahead in economy, I make the counter, and I lose badly anyway. Yesterday I have lost a game against 2base tier2 protoss while being on 5 bases hive tech having double his worker and army supply with 15 infestors and he still walks right through my whole army and static defenses and kills main and natural and all tech before I can remax.

On September 16 2011 23:56 Budmandude wrote:

I would kill to see this replay!