Another Neural Parasite Change. - Page 52

On September 17 2011 00:33 The KY wrote:


That's an understatement. It'd be hard to lose even if you went and had lunch for 15 minutes.

On September 17 2011 00:41 mbr2321 wrote:
This change doesn't nerf the infestor, nor does it really change the way infestors should be played, but rather it raises the skill cap on the infestor, forcing people to be more careful with them because they're made out of paper.

On September 17 2011 00:08 QTIP. wrote:


Lol oh its you. Didn't you get banned from the strat forum for your huge insult thread against Protoss players?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264065

On September 17 2011 00:53 fierywinds wrote:
Im a gm zerg player. Im quite glad they nerfed neural parasite to 7 range. If they nerfed it to 8 range, i might actually have to consider if i should build infestors and research NP in certain situations. But 7 range just makes it so i write infestors completely out of my gameplay.

I always try to adapt and be as unbiased as I can but i think thors might become a tad too strong after this patch.

Im already using the race with the least units, and in the games i play, i dun use hydras and ultralisks. Now infestors too? 0.0

This change doesn't nerf the infestor, nor does it really change the way infestors should be played, but rather it raises the skill cap on the infestor, forcing people to be more careful with them because they're made out of paper.

On September 17 2011 00:33 The KY wrote:


That's an understatement. It'd be hard to lose even if you went and had lunch for 15 minutes.

On September 17 2011 00:35 QTIP. wrote:

You could probably disconnect and still get credited for the win.

On September 17 2011 00:56 imbecile wrote:


Well, I haven't lost a ZvZ in 3 days, and the only TvT I lost in the last few days was because I forgot my 1st overlord or lost all my infetsors for free something like that.

I can't remember when I last won against P.

On September 17 2011 00:53 imbecile wrote:


Was worth it

On September 17 2011 00:18 WinteRR wrote:
why are the zerg players still not happy about this?.

On September 17 2011 00:18 WinteRR wrote:
why are the zerg players still not happy about this?

a totally bad change (no NP on massive units) has been revoked and instead a far weaker nerf has replaced it which won't completely change its application too much anyway. I guess people will always find a way to vent their frustration.

On September 17 2011 00:57 sekritzzz wrote:
haha that was hilarious, talk about exaggeration to further his cause.

On September 17 2011 01:10 Feidspar wrote:


Probably because zerg shouldn't have been getting touched in the first place. PvT and PvZ match ups were suffering. What's the common factor in all of this? Zerg obviously! Nerf infestors into oblivion.

Protoss needed buffs. And they got them. A few significant buffs with +1 immortal range (we all know what +1 range does to units. Roaches and archons are now pretty standard in all match ups), and a massive +60 effective hp on warp prisms.

On September 17 2011 01:24 imbecile wrote:


Ok, actually watched the replay now (was too painful). It was exaggerated, sure, because that's how it felt to me in the game.

The actual stats right before the game ending battle at my natural:

56 workers vs 43
4 base vs 2 base.
Greater Spire Morphing vs. robo tech + gateway
2:1 upgrades vs 1:1 upgrades
106 army supply vs 74 army supply
11 infestors and 7 corruptors + lings + 2 spines 4 queens vs 2 colossus and pure stalker + zealots

20 seconds later my army consisted of 3 corruptors and he still had everything except the 2 colossus handily destroying my main and natural.

On September 17 2011 01:24 branflakes14 wrote:


I'm interested to see what +1 range does to Immortals. I honestly don't think it'll really do anything since they'll still be stuck unable to fire behind Stalkers as Stalkers have the same range but move faster.

On September 17 2011 01:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:


Because the change is unwarranted?

NP is by far the weakest spell on the infestor and prior to these ptr changes being brought up, people hardly complained about it. Infestors are made of wet paper, cannot move while using it, have to research it, AND it only lasts 15 seconds. Furthermore, the prime targets for neural (colossi and thors) requires you to get into a reasonable position to be sniped.

Protoss has their range 9 feedback, blink stalkers with range 6, colossi pretty far back, some are even using phoenix to lift them up.

Terran will have siege tanks and maybe even ghosts if the game goes on long enough.

If the infestor is to be nerfed more intelligent changes would be one of the following:

1) Removing the snare effect on fungal and replacing it with a movement speed reduction. Even as a zerg I feel this ability is bad for the game, because once it lands there is little the player can do aside from just taking as many fungals as I wish to dish out. This should be priority number one.

2) Remove the ability to neural massive AIR units. Or at least, I don't think you should be able to steal a mothership, and maybe if carriers and battlecruisers were used against zerg the corruptor would have a purpose again besides being turned into a much better unit.

3) Hell I'd probably be more content if they returned fungal to its state prior to the patch and buffed neural in exchange. Fungal and infested terrans have always been good.

I feel like people are so desperate to have the infestor nerfed they'll take anything they can get without even considering what might be best for the game.