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Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it.
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On September 02 2011 16:15 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:12 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:07 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? Don't even bother. No point arguing with him. I just love the hypocrites in this thread who claim to be all about game integrity and honor but see nothing wrong with someone backing out on their word. Splitting the winnings of a match and backing out of the deal to split the winnings of a match can BOTH be bad. How is it bad? Are people being forced into these deals? You want to tell two people what they can do with their own money. Gotcha.
Yes? Don't make backroom deals that invalidate the integrity of the match? Or if you do, make it public knowledge at least.
This has to be like, a lot of peoples first medium for competing, I don't get it.
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On September 02 2011 16:14 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:13 babylon wrote:On September 02 2011 16:05 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? How bout we just don't match fix or win split or whatever you wanna call it to begin with. Sounds ok to me. If you're so unhappy about it, then just quit watching professional SC2, as you said you would before. I kind of wish Rekrul would show up and give us a dose of reality, as per usual. He usually flocks to drama like this. Where is he, dammit? When teammates are involved yeah I prob won't. And it'll color the rest of my viewing experience from here on out until someone puts there foot down on it.
im sorry man it has happened before and will keep happening, and you will most likely keep watching
just like santa claus doesn't exist and you probably still celebrate christmas
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On September 02 2011 16:16 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:14 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:13 babylon wrote:On September 02 2011 16:05 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? How bout we just don't match fix or win split or whatever you wanna call it to begin with. Sounds ok to me. If you're so unhappy about it, then just quit watching professional SC2, as you said you would before. I kind of wish Rekrul would show up and give us a dose of reality, as per usual. He usually flocks to drama like this. Where is he, dammit? When teammates are involved yeah I prob won't. And it'll color the rest of my viewing experience from here on out until someone puts there foot down on it. im sorry man it has happened before and will keep happening, and you will most likely keep watching just like santa claus doesn't exist and you probably still celebrate christmas
So we should just condone it and let it happen? Absolutely not.
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Meh SC2 tournaments are a LOT more like Poker, then they are like any other sport competition. Its a solo-performance, in which you are part of a team. In most cases you earn little-to-no money for a salary. You make your money in other ways: Streaming, lessons, appearances, and most importantly: Tournament Winnings!
This is a team game after all, and why should a team not be allowed to go into a tournament with the agreement that: All tournament winnings will be split among the entire team.
Every player contributes to their team member's skill and preparation. Every member of a team is partially responsible for their teammates' level of skill. I could understand how top members of a team would refuse from participating, but as long as all members are willing to do so, why should this be illegal?
It happens in poker, when the players are not teammates, or even friends occasionally. People make an agreement because everyone understands that they are there to make money, and more money and safer money for everyone is better than taking your chances on all or nothing.
I would have absolutely 0 negative things to say about that if EG showed up to the next MLG and said "All tournament winnings from each individual player will be split amongst the team."
In fact it would make me think even more of a certain number of players. (Though it would also make me question some of them, as they have WAY better chances of making money than others)
Fenix is a SCUMBAG in my opinion. For making a deal with a teammate, and then after being handed a series, due to their agreement, decides to keep TT1's share. What a fucking dick-move.
You are the most ignorant person on the internet if you think Fenix would have said "Actually nvm we dont have that deal anymore" if he lost. What a scumbag move to make a friendly agreement with someone, and then go back on it, cause you are a selfish child.
It would be a COMPLETELY different story if Fenix just said "actually I am not interested, I would rather take my chances" But instead he said "Ya sounds good" Let tt1 throw him the series, and then backs out with the money in-hand. What a joke, no wonder Fnatic kicked off a person of absolutely 0 integrity.
If people want to split winnings then that is their own right. If higher earning players of a team decide "you know what, my team should get some of the rewards too" that makes them even cooler in my book.
And preventing this sort of stuff from occurring is LITERALLY impossible to do. So crying and stressing about it and saying completely moronic things like "WE WILL NOT CONDONE THIS!" only makes you look stupid. Unless you are going to pay for 24 hour monitoring/surveillance of every progamer, good luck preventing this.
There will literally NEVER be a way to prove that players made an agreement simply due to watching a match. Its too easy to explain dumb mistakes:
"I was on tilt"
"I was tired"
"I was trying a new strategy I have been working on"
"I was trying something I knew he wouldn't expect"
The list of plausible explinations for poor play are endless.
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On September 02 2011 16:16 eggs wrote:
Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it.
Exactly. How can you know whether or not to waste your time watching something that is completely put on for show?
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On September 02 2011 16:16 eggs wrote:
Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it.
no most likely nothing was staged, if they agreed on splitting X amount of money it doesn't mean they talked about the games
you can agree to split money and then play to win, nothing is staged, the prize is just different, the games are the same
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On September 02 2011 16:15 ReignFayth wrote:
I mean seriously you think Xeris would just take TT1's word for it and instantly kick out fenix... be realistic there
Possibly. Until we know the whole story this plot has more holes in it then a Quintin tarrintino movie
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On September 02 2011 16:16 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:15 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:12 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:07 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? Don't even bother. No point arguing with him. I just love the hypocrites in this thread who claim to be all about game integrity and honor but see nothing wrong with someone backing out on their word. Splitting the winnings of a match and backing out of the deal to split the winnings of a match can BOTH be bad. How is it bad? Are people being forced into these deals? You want to tell two people what they can do with their own money. Gotcha. Yes? Don't make backroom deals that invalidate the integrity of the match? Or if you do, make it public knowledge at least. This has to be like, a lot of peoples first medium for competing, I don't get it.
And how do these deals invalidate the integrity of the match? Oh wait that's right they don't.
It's none of anyone's business what they do with their finances.
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On September 02 2011 16:17 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 16:14 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:13 babylon wrote:On September 02 2011 16:05 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? How bout we just don't match fix or win split or whatever you wanna call it to begin with. Sounds ok to me. If you're so unhappy about it, then just quit watching professional SC2, as you said you would before. I kind of wish Rekrul would show up and give us a dose of reality, as per usual. He usually flocks to drama like this. Where is he, dammit? When teammates are involved yeah I prob won't. And it'll color the rest of my viewing experience from here on out until someone puts there foot down on it. im sorry man it has happened before and will keep happening, and you will most likely keep watching just like santa claus doesn't exist and you probably still celebrate christmas So we should just condone it and let it happen? Absolutely not.
absolutely, cuz it isn't wrong, you think it is, but it is not
you really think everybody would do it if they thought it was wrong?
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On September 02 2011 16:18 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:16 eggs wrote:
Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it. no most likely nothing was staged, if they agreed on splitting X amount of money it doesn't mean they talked about the games you can agree to split money and then play to win, nothing is staged, the prize is just different, the games are the same
I would still like a regulation in place. Asking for the competitors moral compass alone to act as a guiderail is clearly too much for some people.
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On September 02 2011 16:19 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:16 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:15 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:12 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:07 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? Don't even bother. No point arguing with him. I just love the hypocrites in this thread who claim to be all about game integrity and honor but see nothing wrong with someone backing out on their word. Splitting the winnings of a match and backing out of the deal to split the winnings of a match can BOTH be bad. How is it bad? Are people being forced into these deals? You want to tell two people what they can do with their own money. Gotcha. Yes? Don't make backroom deals that invalidate the integrity of the match? Or if you do, make it public knowledge at least. This has to be like, a lot of peoples first medium for competing, I don't get it. And how do these deals invalidate the integrity of the match? Oh wait that's right they don't. It's none of anyone's business what they do with their finances.
Of course they do. Knowing that your gonna get paid the same win or lose affects the match.
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On September 02 2011 16:16 eggs wrote:
Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it.
That's ridiculous. Match-fixing is not deal-making. Losira lost fair and square, and none of it was staged.
Anyways, why the fuck would they stage a 4-0 instead of a 4-3? Think, people. It's probable that NesTea didn't even split with Losira because he was the heavy favorite, and so would gain very little from making a deal. (Of course, if it were MVP instead of Losira, it would be dumb not to split.)
If you object to it so much on principle, then don't watch and withdraw your support. Problem solved.
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On September 02 2011 16:20 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:17 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 16:14 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:13 babylon wrote:On September 02 2011 16:05 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? How bout we just don't match fix or win split or whatever you wanna call it to begin with. Sounds ok to me. If you're so unhappy about it, then just quit watching professional SC2, as you said you would before. I kind of wish Rekrul would show up and give us a dose of reality, as per usual. He usually flocks to drama like this. Where is he, dammit? When teammates are involved yeah I prob won't. And it'll color the rest of my viewing experience from here on out until someone puts there foot down on it. im sorry man it has happened before and will keep happening, and you will most likely keep watching just like santa claus doesn't exist and you probably still celebrate christmas So we should just condone it and let it happen? Absolutely not. absolutely, cuz it isn't wrong, you think it is, but it is not you really think everybody would do it if they thought it was wrong?
Not everybody does it though.
And most all of them that do keep a secret for a reason. The reason is obvious.
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On September 02 2011 16:20 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:19 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:16 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:15 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:12 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:07 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? Don't even bother. No point arguing with him. I just love the hypocrites in this thread who claim to be all about game integrity and honor but see nothing wrong with someone backing out on their word. Splitting the winnings of a match and backing out of the deal to split the winnings of a match can BOTH be bad. How is it bad? Are people being forced into these deals? You want to tell two people what they can do with their own money. Gotcha. Yes? Don't make backroom deals that invalidate the integrity of the match? Or if you do, make it public knowledge at least. This has to be like, a lot of peoples first medium for competing, I don't get it. And how do these deals invalidate the integrity of the match? Oh wait that's right they don't. It's none of anyone's business what they do with their finances. Of course they do. Knowing that your gonna get paid the same win or lose affects the match.
Knowing that you're going to be paid more if you win also affects the match. Like I said before if there is more at stake players may be prone to make more mistakes due to anxiety. You cannot say either way which affects the match more adversely.
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On September 02 2011 16:20 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:17 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:16 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 16:14 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:13 babylon wrote:On September 02 2011 16:05 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? How bout we just don't match fix or win split or whatever you wanna call it to begin with. Sounds ok to me. If you're so unhappy about it, then just quit watching professional SC2, as you said you would before. I kind of wish Rekrul would show up and give us a dose of reality, as per usual. He usually flocks to drama like this. Where is he, dammit? When teammates are involved yeah I prob won't. And it'll color the rest of my viewing experience from here on out until someone puts there foot down on it. im sorry man it has happened before and will keep happening, and you will most likely keep watching just like santa claus doesn't exist and you probably still celebrate christmas So we should just condone it and let it happen? Absolutely not. absolutely, cuz it isn't wrong, you think it is, but it is not you really think everybody would do it if they thought it was wrong?
While I don't particularly disagree with you,but just because people don't "think" it's wrong doesn't make it, well, not wrong. I am NOT saying that match-fixing occurred nor am I taking a stance on the TT1-Fenix debate since I don't know the details. I am, however, saying that match-fixing IS wrong whether you "think" it is or not.
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On September 02 2011 16:22 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:16 eggs wrote:
Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it. That's ridiculous. Match-fixing is not deal-making. Losira lost fair and square, and none of it was staged. Anyways, why the fuck would they stage a 4-0 instead of a 4-3? Think, people. It's probable that NesTea didn't even split with Losira because he was the heavy favorite, and so would gain very little from making a deal. (Of course, if it were MVP instead of Losira, it would be dumb not to split.) If you object to it so much on principle, then don't watch and withdraw your support. Problem solved.
Nestea went undefeated that season becoming the first player to win the entire thing without dropping a single game. 4-0 is just as impactful as 4-3.
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On September 02 2011 16:13 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:11 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 16:09 Orcasgt24 wrote:On September 02 2011 16:07 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? Don't even bother. No point arguing with him. I just love the hypocrites in this thread who claim to be all about game integrity and honor but see nothing wrong with someone backing out on their word. See we have this standing problem that we only have TT1's statement on it and a post by Xeris based on something TT1 said to him. How do we even know their was an agreement backed out of? are you implying there's some kind of conspiracy going on where TT1 and Xeris would have made that agreement up then blaming fenix for not holding his end of the deal just so they could kick him out of fnatic which scenario do you think is more likely No he is implying that TT1 just said that to Xeris and Xseris was none the wiser. Which is probably not what happened but there ya go.
So Fenix was kicked without the management giving him the chance to defend himself? That sounded pretty likely to you?
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On September 02 2011 16:20 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:19 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:16 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:15 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:12 Medrea wrote:On September 02 2011 16:07 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:On September 02 2011 16:01 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 15:59 redFF wrote:
I don't understand how this is even debatable, doing this basically makes a mockery of the tournament, of the fans and of the game, it's stupid and unprofessional. What is even funnier is that people are calling out fenix for not giving TT1 half of the money he won. I mean we've seen some pretty silly drama on tl as of late but this really takes the cake. so you do agree with fenix backing out of a deal once he WON? what if fenix had lost, you really think he would have backed off? Don't even bother. No point arguing with him. I just love the hypocrites in this thread who claim to be all about game integrity and honor but see nothing wrong with someone backing out on their word. Splitting the winnings of a match and backing out of the deal to split the winnings of a match can BOTH be bad. How is it bad? Are people being forced into these deals? You want to tell two people what they can do with their own money. Gotcha. Yes? Don't make backroom deals that invalidate the integrity of the match? Or if you do, make it public knowledge at least. This has to be like, a lot of peoples first medium for competing, I don't get it. And how do these deals invalidate the integrity of the match? Oh wait that's right they don't. It's none of anyone's business what they do with their finances. Of course they do. Knowing that your gonna get paid the same win or lose affects the match.
yeah and knowing your mother died right before the matches is also gonna affect the match, it doesn't fucking matter as long as they don't throw the games
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On September 02 2011 16:20 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 16:18 ReignFayth wrote:On September 02 2011 16:16 eggs wrote:
Everyone so far that's brought up Nestea and Losira has only discussed the prize winnings. What bothers me the most about it is that he made history be being the first Code S winner to go undefeated. If it was pre-arranged to have Nestea 4-0 Losira, that is a big deal to me.
I can still remember game 4, where Nestea 6 pool all-in'd against Losira's hatch-first, and now I just have this lingering doubt that it was as staged as a WWE Championship match, and it sucks. That was a really exciting game at the time and this "Deal Making" talk ruins it. no most likely nothing was staged, if they agreed on splitting X amount of money it doesn't mean they talked about the games you can agree to split money and then play to win, nothing is staged, the prize is just different, the games are the same I would still like a regulation in place. Asking for the competitors moral compass alone to act as a guiderail is clearly too much for some people.
So people are willing to split their own earnings, with their teammates = a morally wrong thing in every person's eyes?
Nope, just yours. Sorry.(Sorry, turns out you are not the voice of Esports fans.)
Also good luck enforcing this. Hope you have hook ups in the CIA/FBI/Interpol/ EVERY other organization capable of 24/7 monitoring of every single pro gamer.
"New rule: there will be absolutely no communication between pro-gamers at any competition- including their teammates. Every player will be housed in a 8x8 cell with no phone/computer/windows. There will be sound proof walls. People will exit their cells to play their matches where they will be monitored entirely throughout. After the series they will return to their cells."
Hmmmm but they can make an agreement before they get there....
"New rule: all pro players will live in facilities moderated by the SC2 equivalent of Kespa. There will be no communication among players in these facilities allowed. Players may not use the internet/phone without constant supervision. Any player found guilty of violating this agreement, will be suspended indefinitely from the tournament."
Itsgosu cheesed in 3/5 series in the EGMCSL. That is worse than watching two teammates going head to head and doing off-the-wall builds, because both are relaxed and enjoying the game rather than trying to kill eachother.
Like I said previously, every player has the right to make these agreements especially with their teammates. And also like I said previously, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to prevent this from happening. The only difference will be is that they wont post about doing it on TL in the future.
If you are going to complain about these agreements, you should complain about lag in online tournaments, jet lag in lan tournaments. Time differences for foreign players. Amount of breaks/time between games being different for every player. The players defeated by each player to get to the finals of a tournament. A player going on tilt.
All of these things also affect games. Yet we still see a hell of a lot of good games.
If you are going to complain about people sharing prize money with their teammates, maybe you should complain about all of the other things "Affecting the outcome of the match."
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