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emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
August 24 2011 22:48 GMT
#321
I noticed the arch (hyper-extension) in IdrA's back as well. I'm a physiotherapy student, and I can tell you that yes your back is supposed to have a natural arch but it is not that high in the back (Should be lower in the lumbar spine combared to the mid-thoracic region. The same arch was evident when he stood up as well if you know where to look. That suggests it may be naturally the way his spine is at the moment. And I am pretty sure that sitting down playing starcraft for 8 hours a day is going to do worse things to your back than a one rep max benchpress if it gives you no pain and you feel comfortable on the lift
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
August 24 2011 22:54 GMT
#322
Like more than you can ever imagine

<3
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
August 24 2011 22:58 GMT
#323
I almost expected skateboard tricks and jackass-like segments out of the first video.
quote unquote
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
August 24 2011 22:58 GMT
#324
On August 25 2011 07:58 drcatellino wrote:
I almost expected skateboard tricks and jackass-like segments out of the first video.

you never know, maybe puma put wheels on the giant check
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
Sajiki
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany522 Posts
August 24 2011 23:05 GMT
#325
omfg EG muffins
id like to have one of these
also very cool gaming house, looks very very comfortable and enjoyable
건설로봇 준비완료
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:16:22
August 24 2011 23:12 GMT
#326
Incontrol has good form and got that one rep cleanly. He touched his chest, which I like to see when people are "one repping". Machine looks pretty solid, and has probably been a casual gym guy for a few years. Idra looks like he could use some work and it looks like he's relatively new to lifting. That said I like that he's motivated enough to stick with it and get into that habit with those guys. Incontrol should help him with his form - maybe lessen the back arch and maybe touch the chest (not bounce, but touch like Incontrol).

edit: that food made me hungry, just watched the house video.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 24 2011 23:14 GMT
#327
Idra's form. Wow. My back started hurting in sympathy pain.
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:41:50
August 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#328
Holy crap, I just realised that Incontrol can lift 3,5 times the weight of.. me. Picture him throwing nerds like the hulk aww yeahhh

PuMa baller <3

Edit:

[image loading]
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
SpinmovE
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada119 Posts
August 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#329
An arched back is not only fine, it's proper form if you are going for power in a one rep max lift. In fact you want to arch your back as much as possible while keeping your ass on the bench and, your shoulder blades pulled together, your feet planted firmly and your entire body as tight as possible. What you don't want is your ass to come off the bench and Greg's did not. People need to stop acting like they know lifting cause they heard in their grade 9 gym class that an arched back is bad.

Geoff clearly is a powerlifter, maybe not competitively right now but he certainly was at one point. I'm pretty sure he'd be the first to point out to bad form to Greg if it was actually bad form.

Look up and instructional videos on a powerlifting bench press. You want your back arched. It really is that simple.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
August 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#330
I want to see puma bench press xP
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:37:31
August 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#331
On August 25 2011 08:14 Sub40APM wrote:
Idra's form. Wow. My back started hurting in sympathy pain.


His form is completely fine except for not touching his chest (he might have shoulders problems or something that prevents him from doing so) and a lot of people prefer to have their legs drawn back more so they are on their toes and can get better leg drive than being flat footed. You're supposed to arch your back, I get no pain from it whatsoever even with a slipped disk from deadlifting a year ago. The only problem is his elbows are a bit flared and his feet probably aren't drawn back far enough, but Incontrol knows enough about lifting to point these things out.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
b0ngt0ss
Profile Joined July 2011
259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:38:52
August 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#332
On August 25 2011 01:53 KingOfAmerica wrote:
God there was so much balling in this video. Puma rolling in with that check is just about the most gangster move available. And that is some serious weight incontrol is throwing around. Idra cheated a bit with the arched back, but 205 is very respectable for someone of his build.

these videos legitimately made me like EG more

you obviously do not know anything about proper form when it comes to benching, especially power-lifting.
the arched back is correct form for bench. arched back is the position in which the back is its strongest. the bench does not only involve the chest. in order to increase bench you must also have a strong back as well as other secondary muscles.
pretty much:
chest
back
shoulders and tris

in that order.
now go lift some heavy weight!!! gogogo

not sure if this was mentioned, but geoff put up 425lbs not 435:
4 plates plus bar is 405lbs, plus a ten on each side = 425lbs,,,, made it look ez pz.


edit: beat me to it
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 24 2011 23:38 GMT
#333
Not bad at all... especially Incontrol. He definitely could have pushed more weight.


Curious to know if they do squats/dead-lifts though...
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:52:39
August 24 2011 23:39 GMT
#334
Gotta love Anna "it's like whatever"


And now I see the real reason she is with Geoff, he must throw her around like a little rag doll when gettin freaky!!! bow chicka wow wow
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 23:56:20
August 24 2011 23:43 GMT
#335
On August 25 2011 07:38 PuercoPop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 04:18 zzdd wrote:
[image loading]

I believe Incontrol has said that he used to do strongman competitions. It would be ignorant to just call it fat.



Not to call Incontrol fat, but the second part of that picture is profoundly misleading. First, Yeah BodyBuilding is unhealthy. But Benchpressing is part of _that_ cuture. In which, putting form over function, trains muscles in isolation. And yes, one can be strong and fat (check out D300 @youtube or the FAQ at Beastskills.com) but you aren't fat as a sign of 'strong core muscles'. That statement is laughable.

Btw, One can see when IdrA lifts his back is arched. That puts undue stress on spinal discs and will lead to hernia in the long term.


What? Its not profoundly misleading whatsoever. The person in the photo is not "fat" and neither is Incontrol. Both are bulky. Most bodybuilders do in fact not have particularly strong core muscles because they often forego exercises like deadlifts due to widening of the obliques which takes away from a good v-taper. Powerlifters, like Incontrol, also focus on function and that often includes direct strengthening of areas like the core = leads to increased mass in that area = leads to a bulkier waist.

Referencing some guy on youtube and beastskills.com doesn't help your credibility. Bench pressing never 'focuses anything in isolation', it's a compound movement so that makes no sense. And if you arch and use leg drive you are doing more weight, but the chest is still getting equal stimulation because either way it is being just as activated if not more so, only the introduction of your lats/leg drive/decreased ROM makes up for the weight beyond the norm.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
mEtRoSG
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany192 Posts
August 24 2011 23:44 GMT
#336
puma looks so depressed all the time ;(
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 24 2011 23:48 GMT
#337
Aww, I like their team. Also, incontrol @_@
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 24 2011 23:50 GMT
#338
Geoff just goes boss mode @_@
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 24 2011 23:52 GMT
#339
On August 25 2011 08:36 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 08:14 Sub40APM wrote:
Idra's form. Wow. My back started hurting in sympathy pain.


His form is completely fine except for not touching his chest (he might have shoulders problems or something that prevents him from doing so) and a lot of people prefer to have their legs drawn back more so they are on their toes and can get better leg drive than being flat footed. You're supposed to arch your back, I get no pain from it whatsoever even with a slipped disk from deadlifting a year ago. The only problem is his elbows are a bit flared and his feet probably aren't drawn back far enough, but Incontrol knows enough about lifting to point these things out.


The point of benching is to not use your other body parts to get the weight up. People who roll on their upper back and arch their feet do it incorrectly. The people that do it best are the ones who tuck their knees into the air or the put their feet on the bench under their butt.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 24 2011 23:55 GMT
#340
hey internet superstars stop talking about Idra's back arch or that he was an inch from his chest. jesus christ I hope this is trolling.

THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS EG I ENJOYED THEM DESPITE THIS THREAD TURNING TO GARBAGE.

I'd love if you kept posting cool videos like this signed, a fan. <3
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