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Taeng
Profile Joined September 2011
37 Posts
October 19 2011 22:46 GMT
#441
No point gg'ing when you dont mean it. Many people are just following the gg'ing since its the norm? And not saying it makes you a bad mannered person? imo if you think its a good game then gg, doesnt really hurt not having a gg. But facing players who rage before leaving is horrible and not acceptable.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
October 19 2011 22:48 GMT
#442
I swear that second one was me i swear haha.
aFganFlyTrap
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia212 Posts
October 19 2011 22:50 GMT
#443
you dont have to GG on ladder if you think you played shit or the other player luckboxed a win. this isnt MLG main stage guys. if you dont mean it dont say it. also pre-emptive GGs are fine when the opponent is bloody drawing out an already won game by 10 mins because they either dont know their fucked or they are doing it out of spite. ill GG you first every time.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
October 19 2011 22:55 GMT
#444
Eh, I've had people say "no gg no skill" after 6pooling me. I mean it's just a little ridiculous sometimes. Hell I've been bmed at the beginning of the game and then they expect a friendly gg when they all-in me?

I try to be civil, but there's no reason sometimes. Play the game, have fun. That's what it's all about.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 19 2011 22:56 GMT
#445
i simply hit F11 and mute the player at the start of everygame, no matter who it is. and then if i lose i type gg and leave.

its so easy, never give in to temptation, im never baited into losing my cool, im never affected in game, and its even possible to ladder on NA because u dont have to deal with the attitude on that ladder if u cant hear them :D

plus u can see their bm if u watch the replay later and its funny a lot of times when bm is met with no response, some people try very hard to get your attention through bm

at the end of the day. i win ezpz
Houkka
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 23:02:57
October 19 2011 22:58 GMT
#446
I don't see what the big deal with not saying gg is. Sometimes I forget to say it, sometimes I don't say it because I died to some sort of cheese or gimmick that I didn't scout... And sometimes I lose a good game and say gg. And to be fair, sometimes people (myself included, at times) are just annoyed at losing.

If someone leaves a game without a gg against me, I don't think they're being bad mannered. Hey, they're surrendering and not building shit all over the map or floating all their buildings, right? Just because you win doesn't mean THE GUY YOU JUST BEAT will necessarily be happy about it. So I don't know, I don't think it's bm to not say glhf or gg at all.

Honestly, does anyone ever think it's a "good game" situation when you just die within 3 minutes to a 6 pool? Really? So why lie about it instead of just leaving the game?
“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist” -George Carlin
Crispin
Profile Joined October 2011
Brazil8 Posts
October 19 2011 23:02 GMT
#447
On October 20 2011 07:55 DoubleReed wrote:
Eh, I've had people say "no gg no skill" after 6pooling me. I mean it's just a little ridiculous sometimes. Hell I've been bmed at the beginning of the game and then they expect a friendly gg when they all-in me?

I try to be civil, but there's no reason sometimes. Play the game, have fun. That's what it's all about.


Indeed, their attitude is dumb as fuck... But than again, people need to get off this behavior like "if he flame me, why should I be mannered?"... I think that's pretty much the logic... If you don't like the fact that a person is bm, why would you just be as bm as he is, or stay quiet, and let him have all the fun...

Remember, you can always put yourself a step ahead on this matter...
"It's all about being humble really..." - Andi Kravljaca
Arnfasta
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States183 Posts
October 19 2011 23:07 GMT
#448
On October 20 2011 07:58 Houkka wrote:

Honestly, does anyone ever think it's a "good game" situation when you just die within 3 minutes to a 6 pool? Really? So why lie about it instead of just leaving the game?


Fair point but I wanted to offer a counter opinion: I do think it's a good game. Why? Because they took a risk and it paid off. I'm the one at fault because I didn't scout and react properly. One of the aspects about SCII 1v1 that I absolutely love is the fact that every loss is on my shoulders. I can't blame teammates or a ref for a bad call, I made a mistake(s). So when I'm beaten, the opponent played better. That might be smarter, better micro, better macro, or have better game sense. So do I enjoy losing to 6 pool? Of course not. But I'm the one who lost and so I do consider it a good game because it pointed out another thing I need to improve upon.

Just a different opinion.
SoulScream
Profile Joined June 2010
Bulgaria44 Posts
October 19 2011 23:08 GMT
#449
I do congratulate my opponent if his build was good or just impressed me somehow (nice blink micro, drop on two of my expansions while attacking my natural and all that good jazz).
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 23:09:22
October 19 2011 23:09 GMT
#450
I read all of OP's quotes as sarcastic this is what Ladder has done to me.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Renegade_cro
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia11 Posts
October 19 2011 23:09 GMT
#451
great way to calm yourself down after a loss imo
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
October 19 2011 23:11 GMT
#452
On October 20 2011 08:09 Chriamon wrote:
I read all of OP's quotes as sarcastic this is what Ladder has done to me.


Haha, me too.. I would have thought douchebag to myself..
If you can chill.. Chill!
Houkka
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland51 Posts
October 19 2011 23:13 GMT
#453
On October 20 2011 08:07 Arnfasta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 07:58 Houkka wrote:

Honestly, does anyone ever think it's a "good game" situation when you just die within 3 minutes to a 6 pool? Really? So why lie about it instead of just leaving the game?


Fair point but I wanted to offer a counter opinion: I do think it's a good game. Why? Because they took a risk and it paid off. I'm the one at fault because I didn't scout and react properly. One of the aspects about SCII 1v1 that I absolutely love is the fact that every loss is on my shoulders. I can't blame teammates or a ref for a bad call, I made a mistake(s). So when I'm beaten, the opponent played better. That might be smarter, better micro, better macro, or have better game sense. So do I enjoy losing to 6 pool? Of course not. But I'm the one who lost and so I do consider it a good game because it pointed out another thing I need to improve upon.

Just a different opinion.


Sure, sounds completely reasonable. I pretty much agree with everything you said, I was just making the point that if you don't consider a game good for any reason at all, I don't see why one should still say good game. But of course, if you consider a game good, then say gg, by all means. <3
“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist” -George Carlin
Volrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia21 Posts
October 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#454
i always gg out, if i forgot because im angry at myself i will message the player explain that i got very angry and apologize for not gging, alot of people will show sympathy to a player that lost, if they bm me or anything like that ill gg then ignore them as soon as the S@#t talking starts
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
October 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#455
I have the bad habit of rage quitting but I am trying to fix that and if I do rage quit I make a point to message my opponent after and apologize and gg. I realize that it isn't a big deal to most people but I face so much bm on the ladder that I hope I can have some sort of effect on my opponents by being gm. A futile effort I fear but no reason not to try!
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 19 2011 23:18 GMT
#456
imo

tapping gg is the most fun part of losing
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 19 2011 23:19 GMT
#457
On October 20 2011 08:18 Champi wrote:
imo

tapping gg is the most fun part of losing

I always get pissed off and raqe quit and feel bad 5 seconds later. I remember at one point I literally focused 100% on gging when I lost for about 15-20 games.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
October 19 2011 23:20 GMT
#458
On October 20 2011 08:13 Houkka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 08:07 Arnfasta wrote:
On October 20 2011 07:58 Houkka wrote:

Honestly, does anyone ever think it's a "good game" situation when you just die within 3 minutes to a 6 pool? Really? So why lie about it instead of just leaving the game?


Fair point but I wanted to offer a counter opinion: I do think it's a good game. Why? Because they took a risk and it paid off. I'm the one at fault because I didn't scout and react properly. One of the aspects about SCII 1v1 that I absolutely love is the fact that every loss is on my shoulders. I can't blame teammates or a ref for a bad call, I made a mistake(s). So when I'm beaten, the opponent played better. That might be smarter, better micro, better macro, or have better game sense. So do I enjoy losing to 6 pool? Of course not. But I'm the one who lost and so I do consider it a good game because it pointed out another thing I need to improve upon.

Just a different opinion.


Sure, sounds completely reasonable. I pretty much agree with everything you said, I was just making the point that if you don't consider a game good for any reason at all, I don't see why one should still say good game. But of course, if you consider a game good, then say gg, by all means. <3

I like both of your arguments a lot, but I'd like to add a point.

In competitive sports, let's use Hockey as it is the one I am most familiar with, the post-game line up and bump fists and shake hands is customary. It isn't so much an acknowledgement that the game WAS good, but rather that the other team played hard regardless of the outcome. Even though in most lines, the words "good game" are uttered, they are more customary than meaningful. When the Canucks go down 1-9 against Chicago because Luongo played like crap, the teams will still line up and shake hands.

So I do agree that even a cheese game deserves a gg. It might not have been your best game, and it maybe is not representative of your true skill, but you have to recognize that in that one instance, you were outplayed.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
Thebbeuttiffulland
Profile Joined October 2011
Brazil288 Posts
October 19 2011 23:20 GMT
#459
On October 20 2011 07:46 Taeng wrote:
No point gg'ing when you dont mean it. Many people are just following the gg'ing since its the norm? And not saying it makes you a bad mannered person? imo if you think its a good game then gg, doesnt really hurt not having a gg. But facing players who rage before leaving is horrible and not acceptable.

different people has different standards about what is gg so if for me its never a good game where i lose i never gg?

truth is out there
Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
October 19 2011 23:20 GMT
#460
Maybe there should be like someway to get "manner points" I mean lets say after every game you can give your opponent points based on their manner from that game, and not doing anything doesn't change their rank or whatever.

I mean after every game you can click on your opponents name on the score screen and you have a plethora of things to do, most importantly block communication lol, but what if they added to things that were like +good manner and +bad manner. Maybe they could make some gay achievements for it whatever, I dunno just a thought, I'm sure others can build off of it.
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