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Good Manner on Ladder

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TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:38 GMT
#1
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

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Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D

Xation
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada147 Posts
August 17 2011 02:41 GMT
#2
You are doing a good thing, sir. I shall also attempt to compliment the cheeses that get thrown at me . But in all seriousness, this is what ladder needs.. It's so bm atm.
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:43:02
August 17 2011 02:42 GMT
#3
Haha I'd like to play against you, I haven't even gotten a 'gg' in all the games I've played lately. >.>

I'd just be careful of how you word your good manner. Some people could take "well executed rush" to have a hint of bitterness to it.

Of course if you mean well though, it doesn't matter if they interpret you the wrong way.

Personally though, I just say 'gg wp' if I feel my opponent played particularly well. Seeing as hardly anyone even says 'gg' anymore, 'gg wp' seems like the pinnacle of manner by comparison.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:44 GMT
#4
On August 17 2011 11:42 Sarang wrote:
Haha I'd like to play against you, I haven't even gotten a 'gg' in all the games I've played lately. >.>

I'd just be careful of how you word your good manner. Some people could take "well executed rush" to have a hint of bitterness to it.

Of course if you mean well though, it doesn't matter if they interpret you the wrong way.

Personally though, I just say 'gg wp' if I feel my opponent played particularly well. Seeing as hardly anyone even says 'gg' anymore, 'gg wp' seems like the pinnacle of manner by comparison.


Indeed. In fact, my friend told me to always put "gg wp" but I always forget. >_>

In any case, 2-3 of these guys have messaged me afterward and I've had friendly conversations with them.
All.In
Profile Joined August 2010
United States214 Posts
August 17 2011 02:45 GMT
#5
I always gg out of games haha. I don't understand why the bm has gotten so popular. Children these days!
It is what it is
sOAvoid
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:47:38
August 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#6
"We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like."
Ungrateful
Profile Joined August 2010
United States71 Posts
August 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#7
The thing is pros no longer play As well mannered so that attitude is trickling down.
Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
August 17 2011 02:49 GMT
#8
lol somebody just fake gg'd me and wasted 43 minutes of my time
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
August 17 2011 02:50 GMT
#9
Ya your intentions might be great, but saying something along the lines of 'nice timing' might sound angry on the other end. Regardless, good job on trying to add some gm to the ladder.
Personally I feel like 'gg wp' is easy enough to do, and there isn't any wrong way to interpret it.
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
August 17 2011 02:51 GMT
#10
I love the marine scv all in, "Nice timing, gg" I have no idea how you do that. I would of put my keyboard though the wall.

I think Day[9] talks about this in his daily about getting into Starcraft II. Since you aren't venting and talking shit and just taking it like a justified loss, you are able to cope with losing a ton easier.
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Sorter
Profile Joined July 2011
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:53:56
August 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#11
On August 17 2011 11:47 Ungrateful wrote:
The thing is pros no longer play As well mannered so that attitude is trickling down.


So true, a lot of low level players see Pro-level players BM others and think it's okay to do so. They don't realize that most of it is (usually) taken lightly.

All those instances of good manner sound so sarcastic to me for some reason. You can't really see through the text to their actually intentions though :/
cOoLiD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada168 Posts
August 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#12
The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T
Makura
Profile Joined December 2010
United States317 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#13
heh i try to gg every game regardless how bad it was for me and on occasion if something awesome kills me go into a conversation about how well played it was, as far as bad mannering, if someone bm's i usually wait til the game is over in silence then message them after a snide comment and block em ^_^
SHOW THEM WHAT THE CATFISH COMBO IS ALL ABOUT!
Pro]ChoSen-
Profile Joined December 2008
United States318 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#14
People are such babies on ladder... I'm always good manner until my opponent isn't, which is 95% of the time.
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#15
On August 17 2011 11:50 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Ya your intentions might be great, but saying something along the lines of 'nice timing' might sound angry on the other end. Regardless, good job on trying to add some gm to the ladder.
Personally I feel like 'gg wp' is easy enough to do, and there isn't any wrong way to interpret it.


A fair point. I'll probably up the manner (add wp and maybe a happy face or something) to make sure I get the message across. The idea is that people go to such great lengths to BM others, the least I can do is send a nice little message complementing others on things they did well.

I think it should be more than just a "gg wp" since BMers generally send you more than just no "gg".
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#16
or you could just type gg on its own, because the people you're saying "good timing" to probably have no idea what they just did
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Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
August 17 2011 02:54 GMT
#17
So everything you say is actually genuine?

I will start doing this if it actually helps with rage. I just can't get over beating myself up. I want to believe that my opponents played well and deserved their win, but I just don't know. I worry that doing this is merely just "going through the motions" and won't actually help with anger issues because it is all acting.
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#18
On August 17 2011 11:53 blabber wrote:
or you could just type gg on its own, because the people you're saying "good timing" to probably have no idea what they just did


Maybe, maybe not. In all honesty, I didn't know what else to say to that guy ._. I think I messed up my build on that one and reacted all wrong to everything but needed something, so the first thing that popped into my head was "nice timing". Probably not the best option, but better than "nice all-in" or something like that >>
TheRageKage12
Profile Joined November 2010
United States161 Posts
August 17 2011 02:59 GMT
#19
On August 17 2011 11:54 Divergence wrote:
So everything you say is actually genuine?

I will start doing this if it actually helps with rage. I just can't get over beating myself up. I want to believe that my opponents played well and deserved their win, but I just don't know. I worry that doing this is merely just "going through the motions" and won't actually help with anger issues because it is all acting.


Yeah, it is genuine. I pick out some part of their play that they did well and that I think made me lose.

Like that last guy, I messed up my entire stargate harass (plus he blind countered it) and didn't have any ground units. Regardless, he still rolled in with a great composition of infestors, banelings, zerglings, and roaches. That legitimately threw me for a loop and even if I was on top of my game would still probably have lost. It was legitimately a good build, well executed, and a deserved loss on my part.

So I guess the key is to make sure you pick an actual GOOD part of their play and complement that rather than just throwing something generic out there. Think about what they did right, not what you did wrong.
Billd
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada210 Posts
August 17 2011 03:00 GMT
#20
This is so mannered that some people might find it sarcastic! I say this because whenever I get cheesed I say "gg wp" and never mean it
@BilldSC I tweet about all things Starcraft 2!
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