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I'm absolutely gonna give this a shot I always find that I play better when I treat the game like a friendly competition rather than as a war (opponent, rather than enemy,) and this seems like a great way to remind myself of that and keep it positive Definitely gonna try it and hope it helps!
We should all remember this post, if it turns into anything big, as the start of good mannered and friendly players en masse in StarCraft 2
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Lol if someone would be like this against me I would think he was being sarcastic. ;/
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Ive always kind of done what you do in games where I enjoyed myself and got outplayed. Other than that I usually say nothing and just leave the games. Some of those things can be taken as sarcasm if you arent careful about it though
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Yeah, having meaningful conversations during/after games makes it much more enjoyable. Usually I'll ask a question after a game and get some conversation/insight into what I did wrong, it usually saves me from having to watch the replay and also get some good ideas.
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On August 17 2011 15:10 Termit wrote: Lol if someone would be like this against me I would think he was being sarcastic. ;/ Yes, I've come to the point where I perceive any pattern of words resembling a praise as sarcasm.
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I 'gg' in all of my games whether it was a cheese or it was a macro game. Sure I'll be angry and frustrated but I at least give the courtesy of giving them a e-handshake. Plus for some reason I have that same problem Artosis mentioned in one of his youtube videos stating that when he gets angry, it won't stop him from playing it actually makes him want to play more so I get angry but I'm glad I do cause it makes me play more.
If you want to think of it in a better way, what would you do after a long game of chess in person? Say "YOU NOOB!! YOU CHEESING NOOB!! CAN'T BEAT ANYONE UNLESS YOU CHEESE" or "ALL IN FAG!!" or some crap like that. Normally you would just give them a handshake and a 'good game' but since you can't really give someone a hand shake through the interwebs, 'gg' is there for that.
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I always GG, no matter how I lose. Hell an hour ago I lost to a ridiculous mass banshee all-in I saw coming but didn't get enough spores up, so I complimented him and gg'd. No reason getting mad!
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I would never compliment my opponent on the ladder because ultimately in platinum we're both terrible at this game and nothing we did was commendable.
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On August 17 2011 11:52 DFDream wrote: The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T
Haha reminds me of vsing koreans on ICCUP. They would always say gg, followed by bm in korean.
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I call bs on someone saying gg nice timing to a marine scv all in.
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I appreciate what you're doing man it's a great thing! I think it might be wise to just type something more simple like "gg wp" because as I look through your screenshots I think to myself that if somebody said that to me in a game I could only see them being sarcastic T_T
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On August 17 2011 11:42 Sarang wrote: Haha I'd like to play against you, I haven't even gotten a 'gg' in all the games I've played lately. >.>
I'd just be careful of how you word your good manner. Some people could take "well executed rush" to have a hint of bitterness to it.
Of course if you mean well though, it doesn't matter if they interpret you the wrong way.
Personally though, I just say 'gg wp' if I feel my opponent played particularly well. Seeing as hardly anyone even says 'gg' anymore, 'gg wp' seems like the pinnacle of manner by comparison.
Goes to show how BM the ladder is - that when someone says something as a compliment, we immediately feel like they're undermining us through sarcasm.
You're good at making carriers, nice skill toi have.
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I GG everygame no matter how I lose, be it a 6 pool or a long macro game. Well sometimes I have forgotten but its never out of rage. No matter how my opponent beats me, he won, he deserves the GG. I feel thats all thats necessary, its like shaking a hand after a match for sports. If its just an ordinary game complimenting him feels like being a lickspittle so unless he does something really amazing I want to talk about I don't do it.
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Man, imagine if the ladder was actually like this. That would be sweet. Not enough good manner floating around these days. Of course don't GM then if they don't deserve it, the same should be said for BM. It'd just be nice to see the balance of manner tip into GM's favour.
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I just hate it when people call me "sir"
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On August 17 2011 15:10 Termit wrote: Lol if someone would be like this against me I would think he was being sarcastic. ;/
This.
If someone does a marine/SCV all-in, it has nothing to do with timing or the person playing exceptionally good. The only time it's a "nice timing" is when the marines and SCVs arrive just before the banelingnest is finished, otherwise (and probably even then) it's just "i had bad scouting".
I always gg, but i see no reason to compliment someone on something where i myself actually screwed up... and 90% of the losses are actually your own fault, not the opponent outplaying you (unless maybe you are top10 grandmasters).
It's a nice initiative to be more well mannered, but i don't think it's the right way to do this.
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On August 17 2011 17:16 Blackk wrote: I just hate it when people call me "sir" Why? Its a sign of respect/manners. Although people can be silly with it on the internet I can't think of it ever being used in a bad sense.
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On August 17 2011 15:10 Termit wrote: Lol if someone would be like this against me I would think he was being sarcastic. ;/
rofl this
It's actually my way of "raging" after a loss against a cheese/one-base-all-in...I always compliment them on their crisply timed, perfectly executed, well-microed push.
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When I type in gg wp, I find that it makes me rage much less because I feel like I'm recognizing my opponent's skills, and that defuses the frustration a little.
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