Good Manner on Ladder - Page 2

On August 17 2011 11:52 Sorter wrote:


So true, a lot of low level players see Pro-level players BM others and think it's okay to do so. They don't realize that most of it is (usually) taken lightly.

All those instances of good manner sound so sarcastic to me for some reason. You can't really see through the text to their actually intentions though :/

On August 17 2011 12:02 JJH777 wrote:
There wouldn't be so much BM on ladder if it wasn't such a shitty cheese-fest I often go on streaks of 5+ games where my opponents 1-2 base all-in. It's not responsive play either I am not even a remotely greedy player I pretty much never go hatch first anymore and do the "safe" build in every single matchup. This is in high diamond and I've been playing against masters players pretty often. Even at this level there are very few players who care more about improving than winning.

On August 17 2011 12:00 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Hmm, not sure why everyone has manner problems on ladder.

I think I start every match, saying "glhf" or something similar. Sometimes they reply, sometimes not. Then towards the end, if I lose I always type "gg" then leave.

Occasionally I'll compliment someone if they put together a nice timing, or did some nice micro or whatever and type "Nice timing, gg" then leave.

It's pretty rare to have manner problems for me. Occassionally when I play 4v4, and they'll be the kid who's doing the whole internet racist rant in the game, which then me and my friends will sometimes decide to change the point of the game to killing him off, even if he's on our team. But that's like 1 out of 100 games at most.

Maybe the bad manners are mostly at the lower levels of ladder?

On August 17 2011 12:00 Ulfsark wrote:
To be honest I feel this is a bit over the top personally. Seems like its forced. I usually compliment those who do something awesome to deserve it.

But if me and my opponent are both friendly I agree that the loss doesn't hurt as bad. If i feel my opponent was a dick and beat me, I want to forget about the game.

On August 17 2011 12:02 chaopow wrote:
Be very careful of how you word your sentence, and especially the emotions you use. In TvP I do a lot of 1 base all ins and I have gotten several "great builds" or "wow...nice build" which is obviously quite negative. However once I did get a "cool build" then a leave, which I am not really sure what that meant. If it was that he really thought it was a cool build and had never seen this quite op build, or if he was being sarcastic.

I think if you put the ! mark, it does seem a lot nicer. The last one really seems clear that it has good intentions. Some of them (1,3,4,5) can be taken both ways I feel. Being very mannered like this is a very good step to take, however do not expect this to be returned to you when you win. Sometimes people will even message you after if you purposely try to give good manner on ladder just to be a dick.

One thing I have done is this. When I lose to say some sort of timing or all in, I'll go like, gg nice timing, Any idea how to stop it? Like if I play as protoss against a terran 1 base all in (i play both races), I will sometimes ask this question to the terran player.

On August 17 2011 12:02 JJH777 wrote:
There wouldn't be so much BM on ladder if it wasn't such a shitty cheese-fest I often go on streaks of 5+ games where my opponents 1-2 base all-in. It's not responsive play either I am not even a remotely greedy player I pretty much never go hatch first anymore and do the "safe" build in every single matchup. This is in high diamond and I've been playing against masters players pretty often. Even at this level there are very few players who care more about improving than winning.

On August 17 2011 12:03 Staboteur wrote:
Haha, love the last screenshot where you left a won game.

Actually on topic, I typically "goodmanner" when my opponent does something I truly admire, whether it be a well-microed two pronged attack, something unexpected/creative, or if they do something I've wondered why certain races never do.

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I also badmanner when I get cheesed. Balance is important, yo.

On August 17 2011 11:42 Sarang wrote:
Haha I'd like to play against you, I haven't even gotten a 'gg' in all the games I've played lately. >.>

I'd just be careful of how you word your good manner. Some people could take "well executed rush" to have a hint of bitterness to it.

Of course if you mean well though, it doesn't matter if they interpret you the wrong way.

Personally though, I just say 'gg wp' if I feel my opponent played particularly well. Seeing as hardly anyone even says 'gg' anymore, 'gg wp' seems like the pinnacle of manner by comparison.