EPTBut recently I've realized that I feel a lot better after a game if I just "gg" at the end. It feels a lot better than rage quitting too. Then I'll either ask for advice, if I'm in a good mood, or open up a private channel and vent all to myself about how shitty I played.
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
But recently I've realized that I feel a lot better after a game if I just "gg" at the end. It feels a lot better than rage quitting too. Then I'll either ask for advice, if I'm in a good mood, or open up a private channel and vent all to myself about how shitty I played. | ||
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droit
United States67 Posts
On April 05 2012 05:31 duct_TAPE wrote: You're not thinking straight, you have to think in terms of your own rules. What prevents a zerg from taking 3 hatches before your 4 hellions, getting 3 roaches and then drone to 80? If no more than 4 hellions is your 'pressure' then you can take 3 hatches with no competetion. It's not like a normal game opening but it dosn't have to be if the zerg knows that you're ONLY doing light pressure. The two hellions stop them...... This post should just stop right here but: As Tastosis said, hellion openings are the rice and kimchi of TvZ openings. Reaper expand TvT, Hellion Expand TvZ, 3base speedling vs FFE ZvP, +1 zealot timing after FFE PvZ... off the top of my head, all these builds would like a word with you. Whether the units themselves do the damage, or the presence of the units, they have an effect that develop into a later game. Forgive me if i'm innacurate about the PvZ opening, I'm a high master zerg and terran. | ||
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LittleRagey
United States24 Posts
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ferencziffra
Bulgaria29 Posts
Also, I don't see the point in congratulating anyone for an undeserved win. The fact that someone won, doesn't make him the player who played better necessarily. In fact with cheesers, it's rarely them being 'a better player' that leads them to winning. And last, I wish everyone shuts up about Sheth being 'mannered' and all. He's so sarcastic a lot of the time when he appears to be mannerly talking. The ladder is a stupid breeding ground of baddies who want free wins and 5 minute games, and would rather see you rage(quit) than say a 'gg' themselves. So fuck ladder and fuck them all. | ||
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
On April 05 2012 10:48 ferencziffra wrote: The ladder is a stupid breeding ground of baddies who want free wins and 5 minute games, and would rather see you rage(quit) than say a 'gg' themselves. You're mostly right, so why give them that satisfaction by rage quitting? | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
On April 05 2012 10:48 ferencziffra wrote: Who even introduced the word "mannered" in gaming. It sounds so awfully wrong. Being polite or rude doesn't cut it, so we have to use "well-mannered" and "bad-mannered" now? That's bullshit Also, I don't see the point in congratulating anyone for an undeserved win. The fact that someone won, doesn't make him the player who played better necessarily. In fact with cheesers, it's rarely them being 'a better player' that leads them to winning. And last, I wish everyone shuts up about Sheth being 'mannered' and all. He's so sarcastic a lot of the time when he appears to be mannerly talking. The ladder is a stupid breeding ground of baddies who want free wins and 5 minute games, and would rather see you rage(quit) than say a 'gg' themselves. So fuck ladder and fuck them all. It seems to be a common misconception that saying 'gg' is a compliment and therefore requires good play to earn. Its not - it comes from the sports field where players shake hands after a match, and both the winner and the loser say 'good game'. Its a mark of appreciation for the time spent and the sport, rather than a congratulations. To me, its totally applicable to SC2 - you're playing a 1 on 1 game against someone for twenty minutes, and you want to just wander off and stop playing without even saying a word? And yeah, I generally GG to cheese too, just because it probably gives them more pleasure to see me rage quit. | ||
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honed
Canada482 Posts
On April 05 2012 10:30 droit wrote: The two hellions stop them...... This post should just stop right here but: As Tastosis said, hellion openings are the rice and kimchi of TvZ openings. Reaper expand TvT, Hellion Expand TvZ, 3base speedling vs FFE ZvP, +1 zealot timing after FFE PvZ... off the top of my head, all these builds would like a word with you. Whether the units themselves do the damage, or the presence of the units, they have an effect that develop into a later game. Forgive me if i'm innacurate about the PvZ opening, I'm a high master zerg and terran. seems like an appropriate place to discuss sc2 strategy.... + Show Spoiler + nooope. | ||
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On April 05 2012 10:48 ferencziffra wrote: Who even introduced the word "mannered" in gaming. It sounds so awfully wrong. Being polite or rude doesn't cut it, so we have to use "well-mannered" and "bad-mannered" now? That's bullshit Also, I don't see the point in congratulating anyone for an undeserved win. The fact that someone won, doesn't make him the player who played better necessarily. In fact with cheesers, it's rarely them being 'a better player' that leads them to winning. And last, I wish everyone shuts up about Sheth being 'mannered' and all. He's so sarcastic a lot of the time when he appears to be mannerly talking. The ladder is a stupid breeding ground of baddies who want free wins and 5 minute games, and would rather see you rage(quit) than say a 'gg' themselves. So fuck ladder and fuck them all. You're talking as if this is something new, and not something that developed over the past 12 years of competitive gaming. "gg" isn't about it actually being a good game. It's about playing the game. But this discussion is almost useless to have, since there are people who go, "Wasn't a gg, so i called him a faggot" and have a mentality that i find to be particularly detrimental to the scene as a whole. | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
On April 05 2012 11:03 reneg wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2012 10:48 ferencziffra wrote: Who even introduced the word "mannered" in gaming. It sounds so awfully wrong. Being polite or rude doesn't cut it, so we have to use "well-mannered" and "bad-mannered" now? That's bullshit Also, I don't see the point in congratulating anyone for an undeserved win. The fact that someone won, doesn't make him the player who played better necessarily. In fact with cheesers, it's rarely them being 'a better player' that leads them to winning. And last, I wish everyone shuts up about Sheth being 'mannered' and all. He's so sarcastic a lot of the time when he appears to be mannerly talking. The ladder is a stupid breeding ground of baddies who want free wins and 5 minute games, and would rather see you rage(quit) than say a 'gg' themselves. So fuck ladder and fuck them all. You're talking as if this is something new, and not something that developed over the past 12 years of competitive gaming. "gg" isn't about it actually being a good game. It's about playing the game. But this discussion is almost useless to have, since there are people who go, "Wasn't a gg, so i called him a faggot" and have a mentality that i find to be particularly detrimental to the scene as a whole. Totally agree with what you are saying. The fact any of us play the game is because we enjoy it, and in order to keep enjoying it then we need people to play against. If BMing someone after a game contributes to one person giving up/playing less then we are ultimately just shooting ourselves in the foot | ||
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ThomasHobbes
United States197 Posts
From that point on, you are relying on an opponents mistake to let you back into the game. If your "strong timing" fails to do sufficient damage, you have essentially just lost the game. This critique on "allins" can be extended to any other form of play that isn't no-rush 20 minutes. It's ridiculous, the point of the game is to win, if you lose to your opponents play, you played wrong. No, that doesn't imply he's a better all-around player, and no, you don't have to be mannered to him, but you are playing wrong. | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
On April 05 2012 11:13 drop271 wrote: Totally agree with what you are saying. The fact any of us play the game is because we enjoy it, and in order to keep enjoying it then we need people to play against. If BMing someone after a game contributes to one person giving up/playing less then we are ultimately just shooting ourselves in the foot The person who BM's doesn't see it as shooting himself in the foot. He lost a game and is mad, he is perfectly happy if the person who beat him never plays again. | ||
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xlava
United States676 Posts
I'm not quite sure why so many people think its okay to call someone profanities just because the game didn't go well. I see bm with things like "I'm going to kill your entire family" and think, geeze what's wrong with your brain lol... Probably just 15 year olds ala xbox live who think its cool to do the same things over SC2.... pathetic. | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
On April 05 2012 11:21 Luepert wrote: The person who BM's doesn't see it as shooting himself in the foot. He lost a game and is mad, he is perfectly happy if the person who beat him never plays again. Of course you're right, but I meant on a universal level - ie if we all did that then we'd have far fewer players and everyone would just be rude in each game (which sadly isn't far from the truth right now...) | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
Also it makes you enjoy the game and others instead of raging all of the time | ||
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bpgbcg
United States74 Posts
Even if I'm really frustrated and I hope that my previous opponent dies in a boiling pit of fire for their gateway timing, this will usually calm me down. Being nice to other people makes it harder to be mad at yourself and the game. | ||
TheEmulator
28100 Posts
On April 05 2012 13:17 bpgbcg wrote: I start every game with "gl hf! :D" Even if I'm really frustrated and I hope that my previous opponent dies in a boiling pit of fire for their gateway timing, this will usually calm me down. Being nice to other people makes it harder to be mad at yourself and the game. lol. I also hope my opponents die in a boiling pit of fire. | ||
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drop271
New Zealand286 Posts
"man I played like shit, if I hadn't you would have been crushed" Well yes, thats true, but then the same is true for me too - we all make mistakes, and I probably made plenty on the way to beating you, but thats why we're not in GM. or the utterly illogical "man you are fucking shit" (when they win or lose) Yes, I am rubbish, but my MMR is the same as yours - thats why we're matched, so you must be equally bad right? | ||
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RampancyTW
United States577 Posts
On April 05 2012 13:17 bpgbcg wrote: :D so true. You reasoning is exactly why I started doing this as well. I want to have fun when I play, and it's much more fun when you're pleasant and recognize that it's A.) Not a big deal that you lost and B.) Something you can learn from I start every game with "gl hf! :D" Even if I'm really frustrated and I hope that my previous opponent dies in a boiling pit of fire for their gateway timing, this will usually calm me down. Being nice to other people makes it harder to be mad at yourself and the game.  | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
On April 05 2012 14:15 drop271 wrote: My other pet hates are people that say: "man I played like shit, if I hadn't you would have been crushed" Well yes, thats true, but then the same is true for me too - we all make mistakes, and I probably made plenty on the way to beating you, but thats why we're not in GM. or the utterly illogical "man you are fucking shit" (when they win or lose) Yes, I am rubbish, but my MMR is the same as yours - thats why we're matched, so you must be equally bad right? Many people with below average IQ play this game unfortunately  . | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
If there was an option to disable in game chat completly, i would use it | ||
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