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jdetruis
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada2 Posts
April 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#621
ahh its important to be gm. when im pist after a cheese i just put a gg hoping my oponent will catch that it.
You are the product of 5 billion years of evolutionary success, fucking act like it!
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#622
On April 04 2012 21:51 RamboxAnyonomos wrote:
I always gg, but only give a wp if I feel my opponent did something spectacular. I expect the same from my opponent. But a few months ago, I switched to random and have found a new level of manner. At first, when I lost with terran (my old main), I would get mad and gg and quit. When I lost with zerg or protoss, I would stay in the game and talk to my opponent. I would ask them what I should have done, other than just improve my macro. It's amazing how many people will give you detailed strategies on how to beat them. It makes sense though; you already know you've won and the dick won't leave the game, and now hes asking you what beats you. You know what beats you and you just smashed this kid, might as well tell him. Because of this I now no longer get angry when I lose with any race. I just get curious and ask my opponent what beats them. Maybe its bad manner to stay in the game after a definite loss, but why not take advantage of the moment? And like I said, most people are more than willing to spill their guts on what beats them. If they are not talkative and are focused on killing all my building, I leave. That being said, I'd like to compliment anyone who stays in the game after a win and will discuss strategy with your defeated opponent. Anyway, give it a try next time, you'll be surprised. Actually listen to them, and you'll be much, much more surprised.
By the way, when I made the switch I was gold. I got into platinum within a month.

That's still like the most annoying thing to me. I'm always so paranoid of "he might be hiding his base somewhere", so I just hunt those people that want to talk at the end of the game even harder and /w after the game.

I never really understand why people BM when they loose. It's so... pointless. I mean loosing is always frustrating, but why take it out on someone else, rather just improve yourself. Only time I don't gg is when someone offensively gg's(and that's time for liftoff into every corner) or bms me in other way(okay and that one time I forgot to gg, still remember it though it's been half a year ). Throw in wp when I feel i just got clearly outclassed or if the opponent did something cute.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
April 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#623
I hate when people say "gg wp" when I totally didnt play well. Its either just an automatic response, or they're in denial that they played awful too.

lol sorry to grinch up the thread
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 04 2012 16:56 GMT
#624
I say GG after every loss, because it is a way to control my emotions and just move on to the next game. Once I type GG it gives me closure and I no longer need to think about that game.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
April 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#625
I say "gg" everytime before leaving, its like a habit.

and also, i like to "GG WP" when losing to some kind of cheese (ironically ofc).
oo
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
April 04 2012 17:05 GMT
#626
I'd feel worse inside about complementing someone on something I didn't believe is complement worthy.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
ImGonnaRideYou
Profile Joined July 2010
53 Posts
April 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#627
To me, ladder Starcraft is like street ball. Anything goes (not literally, but you know what I mean) and I'm here to win. Not make friends, not put on a good show for spectators, not to work on some running routes or defensive plays. I put my forearm on you hard and you better bust your ass to get by me because there's no ref around to call foul.

I never "glhf" and "gg". If people "glhf" me, I do it back in an attempt to throw his guard off into believing that because of my formalities, I won't be early super aggressive or all-in. When I do lose, I leave the game with no gg and if I start typing smack, deal with it - it's part of the game. I already lost - what more do you want? Want some fries with that? How about a blowjob, sir?
hoivenmayven
Profile Joined April 2011
United States134 Posts
April 04 2012 17:13 GMT
#628
On April 05 2012 01:54 Equity213 wrote:
I hate when people say "gg wp" when I totally didnt play well. Its either just an automatic response, or they're in denial that they played awful too.

lol sorry to grinch up the thread


no sorries lol. i would agree. think its awesome that the OP is trying to add some class to the ladde but there's really no reason to say anything other than gg when your opponent either did something cheesy or wonky or just plain average. i feel bad for the poor sap who beats you accidentally with something awful and then says to himself "ooooh wp, i'm so good, i should keep doing this awful awful build."
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
April 04 2012 17:19 GMT
#629
The worst is when you do something stupid, they say you suck, and you can't defend yourself because you just right-clicked your army into their siege line.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
April 04 2012 17:24 GMT
#630
On April 05 2012 01:56 Najda wrote:
I say GG after every loss, because it is a way to control my emotions and just move on to the next game. Once I type GG it gives me closure and I no longer need to think about that game.


This is so true. Though sometimes when I'm in this beatiful row where you loose to stupid shit 5+ times in a row it becomes really hard to do.
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
April 04 2012 17:26 GMT
#631
On April 04 2012 21:40 Dujek wrote:
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On April 04 2012 21:32 duct_TAPE wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:52 cOoLiD wrote:
The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T



This is such a tragedy, if it is true that Koreans are generally more manner than NA/EU I feel so ashamed of my region. Korean servers are undoubtedly the most difficult to play on, but still they are nicer people towards each other? It sounds like they just have a better mindset on all fronts in the game.

I am ashamed to be European in Starcraft.


What league are you in, I almost never get BM in Platinum EU. If I do it's once in 20 or 30 games and stops almost instantly.


I'm in mid masters and people are often BM to me. I have a feeling that they think they're the shit cause of being in masters when it dosn't mean crap, people in masters are awful too and deserve the losses they receive cause their timings are absolute garbage compared to real pro players. They complain about balance/whatever when they don't realise that's not really relevant at all to how they lost the game.

Why do you think pro players realise when they are getting outplayed and say openly in interviews that they couldn't do anything, their opponent was too good. They don't strut around thinking they're the shit and badmouth every player that beats them. Feels funny to say this cause it should be so obvious to everyone.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
tossuaway
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States107 Posts
April 04 2012 17:48 GMT
#632
Yep, always leave with a gg here, cause I lost, so I need to do something different or better to win, and they showed me that. But if they beat me in an awesome way, I will totally congratz them for that. More GG more skill!!!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 04 2012 17:51 GMT
#633
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

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Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 04 2012 18:02 GMT
#634
On April 05 2012 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

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Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that

I really dont like people like you.
In my opinion cheeses are valid strategies, pylonblocking not maybe but all-ins aren't bad. They are pretty strong and should always be considered.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 04 2012 18:05 GMT
#635
On April 05 2012 03:02 GoSuChicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that

I really dont like people like you.
In my opinion cheeses are valid strategies, pylonblocking not maybe but all-ins aren't bad. They are pretty strong and should always be considered.

the point of the game is to have fun its no fun being all-inned
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4541 Posts
April 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#636
On April 05 2012 03:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 03:02 GoSuChicken wrote:
On April 05 2012 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that

I really dont like people like you.
In my opinion cheeses are valid strategies, pylonblocking not maybe but all-ins aren't bad. They are pretty strong and should always be considered.

the point of the game is to have fun its no fun being all-inned


executing the all-in, however, can be quite fun.

so we seem to have a contradiction here, for one person to have fun it means his opponent can't?
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
April 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#637
On April 05 2012 03:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 03:02 GoSuChicken wrote:
On April 05 2012 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that

I really dont like people like you.
In my opinion cheeses are valid strategies, pylonblocking not maybe but all-ins aren't bad. They are pretty strong and should always be considered.

the point of the game is to have fun its no fun being all-inned


If there were no punishing builds it would be a macro game every time, meaning no need to invest in early defense. Zerg for example would be able to take 5 bases against a ffe protoss and drone up to 95 and get broods by the 14 min mark.

I agree that all-ins are not the most exciting thing but it keeps players from being overly greedy.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 18:27:35
April 04 2012 18:26 GMT
#638
On April 05 2012 03:25 duct_TAPE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 03:05 Forikorder wrote:
On April 05 2012 03:02 GoSuChicken wrote:
On April 05 2012 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that

I really dont like people like you.
In my opinion cheeses are valid strategies, pylonblocking not maybe but all-ins aren't bad. They are pretty strong and should always be considered.

the point of the game is to have fun its no fun being all-inned


If there were no punishing builds it would be a macro game every time, meaning no need to invest in early defense. Zerg for example would be able to take 5 bases against a ffe protoss and drone up to 95 and get broods by the 14 min mark.

I agree that all-ins are not the most exciting thing but it keeps players from being overly greedy.

theres nothing stopping you from just doing some safe pressure like hellion expand or 2 base 4 gate or void ray agression or something that doesnt mean you ahve to leave if they defend

executing the all-in, however, can be quite fun.

so we seem to have a contradiction here, for one person to have fun it means his opponent can't?


i dont believe that someone who palys the game can only ahve fun by doing all-ins, but if they purposely choose a strat in order to remove my fun then i will let them know how i feel about, if someone is rude then im going to be rude back
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 18:30:04
April 04 2012 18:28 GMT
#639
On April 05 2012 03:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 03:02 GoSuChicken wrote:
On April 05 2012 02:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:38 TheRageKage12 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I had an epiphany the other day. So many people bad manners on ladder after they lose, but nobody good manners. I guess it makes sense, it is easier to yell and blame someone for beating you than it is to accept that they played better. So, in an effort to make the ladder a better place, I've decided to end every game I lose with some good manner for my opponent.

Thus far, I have 6 instances of good manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Replays:
http://www.mediafire.com/?drqka1kc3volxt1

Furthermore, I've found myself much more willing to go back and see how I lost after complementing my opponent on a job well done. That might just be a coincidence (or maybe I'm weird).

NOTE: Some players may become confused and frightened at the sight of such a rare occurrence of good manner. If they do begin to lash out, calmly explain to them that you meant your complements and that you most definitely aren't trolling. :D


i really dont like people like you

jsut because someone is bad mannered doesnt mean there a terrible person that has no feelings and feels there great and the only reason they lsot is cause of some fluke

alot of the time people are bad mannered on ladder because there opponent deserves it by all-innning and doing stupid cheese like blocking the ramp with pylons and stuff like that

I really dont like people like you.
In my opinion cheeses are valid strategies, pylonblocking not maybe but all-ins aren't bad. They are pretty strong and should always be considered.

the point of the game is to have fun its no fun being all-inned


I honestly rofl'd on this.
Do you think, even mannered people, care about your feelings while they are trying to climb to diamond, masters, grandmasters or whatever league?
Sir, I am not playing this game so YOU could have fun, I am playing it so I can have fun and if I think all-inns are way to victory or if I think I'll have fun if I try some cheese from time to time, deal with it.

On the topic, I never rage/flame etc my opponents nor I answer to any rage/flame myself but in same fashion I don't write those "gglhf" thingies, I just don't feel I have to behave by some code every damn game. If someone "gl hf" me I usually answer with "ty u2" and that's it.

On April 05 2012 02:08 ImGonnaRideYou wrote:
To me, ladder Starcraft is like street ball. Anything goes (not literally, but you know what I mean) and I'm here to win. Not make friends, not put on a good show for spectators, not to work on some running routes or defensive plays. I put my forearm on you hard and you better bust your ass to get by me because there's no ref around to call foul.

I never "glhf" and "gg". If people "glhf" me, I do it back in an attempt to throw his guard off into believing that because of my formalities, I won't be early super aggressive or all-in. When I do lose, I leave the game with no gg and if I start typing smack, deal with it - it's part of the game. I already lost - what more do you want? Want some fries with that? How about a blowjob, sir?


I like you! :D
(minus flame at the end of the game :>)
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 04 2012 18:28 GMT
#640
I would be interested to see some sort of large-scale analysis of frequency of BM across various leagues.

I'm almost positive (but have zero quantitative data) that bronze and masters is chock full of BM, silver and diamond are a little better, and platinum/gold/GM are relatively calm.
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