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On April 04 2012 15:25 Jinks28 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 07:19 TBone- wrote:
Whenever I play mech vs protoss or zerg in a macro game they always bm me. Almost in all circumstances. Which is all of my games. haha... i "gg" after 95% of games, and only ragequit when I do something so bad I give away the game.... that being said zerg opponents ALWAYS ragequit or shit talk when i mech TvZ.... i have yet to get a gg for those wins. I don't get it, why the BM every single time? zergs help me out here
Mech is strong. Very strong. When you lose to it, it seems unbeatable. So you BM because you don't know what else to do. That would be my guess.
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I somewhat agreee with the "gg is an autmated response, it means nothing". But just like saying good morning to everyone when entering an office in the morning, it is a social convention. And I like the loosing player to show he is not an angry kid overflown with rage, bashing his keyboard. People who have the mentality to type gg after every loss do not make for "angry keyboard bashing kids" in my eyes.
Personally I really recently tried to implement gg in all of my losses. I found it really hard. When cannon rushed 3 times in a row (yes, I was like "they cannot be doing it again, can they?") it was hard to calmly say GoodGame and mean it. And when I finally made it I felt much more calm and collected afterwards. I mean, after all they played better, exploiting my lack of scouting. Gratz to them!
For me, when I play a really nice game it's the gg wp that signifies it. I rarely say wp and for me it should stay that way for "everyone". GG as a social convention and WP as a sign that you feel the other player really did something amazing.
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On April 04 2012 16:51 nastyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 15:25 Jinks28 wrote:On April 04 2012 07:19 TBone- wrote:
Whenever I play mech vs protoss or zerg in a macro game they always bm me. Almost in all circumstances. Which is all of my games. haha... i "gg" after 95% of games, and only ragequit when I do something so bad I give away the game.... that being said zerg opponents ALWAYS ragequit or shit talk when i mech TvZ.... i have yet to get a gg for those wins. I don't get it, why the BM every single time? zergs help me out here Mech is strong. Very strong. When you lose to it, it seems unbeatable. So you BM because you don't know what else to do. That would be my guess.
just get roaches, then ill gg
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i just played a taiwanese guy and we talked about taylor swift and other pop music.
we gg'd and re'd and talked about what kpop we like and don't like ^^
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Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts
To say "gg" only counts if you are boiling with anger. Saying it and realizing that its your own fault is worth something . And your opponent is doing you a favor by cheesing you and eventually making you a better player. Saying "gg wp" when you are all flufy and dandy doesn't mean shit - you gotta be fucking angry as hell!!! :D
I try to be and actually i am good mannered on ladder but only when it hurts me to say gg i know i am on to something.
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I remember back in the days of 1st season I was playing a custom game of pvz and at that time I was experimenting on 6 gate push but found that in low numbers zerg units are better and i cant break spines so I started to play no tech 8-9 gates style with like 12+ senties. In one of the games a zerg complimented me with "this is the most awesome play from a protoss I have seen. How did you get all those units?" I'll see for a screenshot but it was soooo looong agoooo.
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On August 17 2011 11:52 cOoLiD wrote:
The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T
This is such a tragedy, if it is true that Koreans are generally more manner than NA/EU I feel so ashamed of my region. Korean servers are undoubtedly the most difficult to play on, but still they are nicer people towards each other? It sounds like they just have a better mindset on all fronts in the game.
I am ashamed to be European in Starcraft.
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You know, I saw this and kind of laughed, but I tried it after 2 of my loses today and it actually felt pretty good. I might actually start doing this after every loss.
Maybe this will also increase the number of friends I make after games. I only have a select few friends that I have met on ladder, but they all began with one of us BM'ing at the end of a match then trash talking through chat and eventually talking strategy then proceeding to practice games.
Thank you for this!
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gg only means something to me when I can put a face to my opponents. Like a friend or in a tourney setting, but on ladder everyone's just faceless they might as well be computers. In my experience the people who care about gg are just as obnoxious.
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On April 04 2012 21:32 duct_TAPE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 11:52 cOoLiD wrote:
The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T This is such a tragedy, if it is true that Koreans are generally more manner than NA/EU I feel so ashamed of my region. Korean servers are undoubtedly the most difficult to play on, but still they are nicer people towards each other? It sounds like they just have a better mindset on all fronts in the game. I am ashamed to be European in Starcraft.
What league are you in, I almost never get BM in Platinum EU. If I do it's once in 20 or 30 games and stops almost instantly.
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On April 04 2012 05:37 willverrecken wrote:waht the fuck is wrong with just saying 'gg' and leaving the game? Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 04:54 vOdToasT wrote:Copy pasting the conversation instead of taking a screenshot, because it´s easier. Erewien: this is zerg. Erewien: you have no macro, just a move blings. Erewien: i hope your mother dies Erewien has reconnected. You: Look at the replay, you had it won Erewien: ye sure Erewien: muta play shouldnt be allowed to win from there You: Well, you messed up and lost lots of scvs to a counter get sensor towers ―――――――――――――――― Erewien: cant leave there whole army to defend third.. You: Also, you had scattered supply depots instead of a full wall And no of course you cant leave your whole army, but with a sensor tower you know how much I have there And you can move units from your rally point Erewien: how u mean that with that wall You: just wall of the entire path to the bottom right expo with depots and a bunker or two behind so my banelings have to hit the wall and cant reach the bunker / scvs Erewien: hm You: And get a sensor tower, there is no reason not to Also since you push to the north your rally point might as well be to where you are vulnerable to counter attacks which is your third. Your natural has a full wall you can raise at any time, Erewien: k thanks for info  You: and youre pushing to the north so counter attacks are less dangerous from there HAHAHA he tells you he hopes your mother dies and you help him? oh wow.. guess what he learned from that: "damn, better tell some other people that i hope their mother dies so they help me : )" what you should do if someone is being an asshole is to tell them to go fuck themselves. acting like that -> negative reaction. don't fucking try to be their friend. thats not 'good manner' thats just laughable.
It wasn´t really about being nice, I just like knowledge and dislike ignorance. And he was ignorant, so I gave him the truth.
Also, if he didn´t believe that the game was unfair, he wouldn´t have gotten so angry. When I managed to explain to him how he could easily have won that game, he calmed down. He can say whatever he wants to me, I really don´t care. It´s not going to offend me. But his ignorance offended me.
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On April 04 2012 16:41 Corsica wrote:
hmm i dont gg to cheese because it is not a good game in my book, that is all.
Then say something else to bow out of the game politely
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I always gg unless they are rude to me or gg first. I hate it when they gg first because you can`t possibly know if the game is over, I might have DTs incoming or hidden bases. I always use the :D face after my gl hf, it helps me feel not so bad about losing and it makes me feel more relaxed.
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I always gg, but only give a wp if I feel my opponent did something spectacular. I expect the same from my opponent. But a few months ago, I switched to random and have found a new level of manner. At first, when I lost with terran (my old main), I would get mad and gg and quit. When I lost with zerg or protoss, I would stay in the game and talk to my opponent. I would ask them what I should have done, other than just improve my macro. It's amazing how many people will give you detailed strategies on how to beat them. It makes sense though; you already know you've won and the dick won't leave the game, and now hes asking you what beats you. You know what beats you and you just smashed this kid, might as well tell him. Because of this I now no longer get angry when I lose with any race. I just get curious and ask my opponent what beats them. Maybe its bad manner to stay in the game after a definite loss, but why not take advantage of the moment? And like I said, most people are more than willing to spill their guts on what beats them. If they are not talkative and are focused on killing all my building, I leave. That being said, I'd like to compliment anyone who stays in the game after a win and will discuss strategy with your defeated opponent. Anyway, give it a try next time, you'll be surprised. Actually listen to them, and you'll be much, much more surprised.
By the way, when I made the switch I was gold. I got into platinum within a month.
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On April 04 2012 06:13 Berailfor wrote:
I'm not saying your method is a terrible method. But I am saying not GGing your opponent (to me) is a slap in the face to your opponent and it's upsetting when your the winner in the "massacre" scenario you described and the other person doesn't acknowledge that and just leaves without GGing. And you'll find yourself getting less frustrated too when you can GG any scenario (even a 6pooler) and leave. At least for me it gives me a very nice sense of self-respect to be able to maintain calm and GG just as I always would.
Yeah.
I still sometime whine about balance in the public chat before I leave with no GG. But then I start with much frustration in the next game. When I manage to overcome my anger right within the game I lost and type GG before I leave, it only takes seconds until I noticed why I lost (for example I a-moved my army across the map and didn't notice in time he attacks me, or that I took my third too late, or that I overdroned in the mid-game) and then I start with a calm mind in the next game.
Using manner and show some basic respect to the opponent actually helps me.
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I think the whole "gg / rage quitting" concept is futile, it's so overused it became an automatic message and then is meaningless. Even computer says "gg" ...
Personnally i just gg when the game was actually a good game, that's all. And it's different from "hi hf" which is a social convention, and then needed. "gg" is a point of view, and if the game wasn't interesting no "gg" that's all. Sometimes some raging nerds insult me because I "rage quit"... So weird.
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I always gg, losing to my opponent just means that he played better than me in that best of 1 and i should respect that, no matter what he does to get the win. Respect is a very important thing to have, because the truth is that its what i want from my opponents.
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On April 04 2012 15:53 oZe wrote:I almost never gg btw. It's my personal oppinion that automated responses mean nothing. It's like a sign that says welcome or a corporate answering machine saying your call is really important to us. You really expect me to feel welcome? When you can't even be bothered to say it. To feel important? When you won't even pick up the phone. So saying gg every game is exactly the same as just quiting.
Stuff like glhf and gg are pretty automated, yeah, so instead, not saying it means something.
Is it okay to not say gg if your opponent say it first, when they're winning? In a way, they said it for you. It's probably better manners to reply with "thanks, gg" though, obviously they are complimenting you on your play when they say gg while winning. But what if they say gg then call you a scrub, and tell you to get out? What then?
And how bm should I be considered, if I yell at my monitor to tell them to get out, but don't actually type anything to them?
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On April 04 2012 21:32 duct_TAPE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 11:52 cOoLiD wrote:
The only people who are ever mannered to me are on the Korean server T.T This is such a tragedy, if it is true that Koreans are generally more manner than NA/EU I feel so ashamed of my region. Korean servers are undoubtedly the most difficult to play on, but still they are nicer people towards each other? It sounds like they just have a better mindset on all fronts in the game. I am ashamed to be European in Starcraft.
I have never been BM'd on Korea by a Korean. I have however been BM'd on Korea by a British person, a few Americans and a Canadian (wtf?)
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I dont generally say anything other than GG at the end of my losses, which I do every time I lose. In fact, I dont really say anything at all except for gg, in games. If I want to whine about something I take it up with my friends so they can whine with me. I dont like raging and whining to complete strangers.
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