EPTKorean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 161
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Grr Arr Rawr
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 09:54 Nemireck wrote: While it's actually obvious that not everything was "squared away", the fact that they had begun filming is enough information to piece together that the Koreans had, at the very least, dealt with all of the required paperwork. Now, I'll grant that it wouldn't be obvious to anyone who wasn't aware of the debacle of the Season 1 registrations. In the future I'll be more mindful of the fact that not everyone has knowledge of the background information required to make the same logical assumptions that I found easy to make based on the information provided in the OP. They never stated what they were filming, if it was just promos or matches or interviews or anything else...And even in their post explaining when the contracts were handed in, they leave TSL and ST out of it. As an aside, I would say once you finish signing the contract, it's squared away. Because at that point, both sides have finished agreeing to a set of obligations that have to be fulfilled. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:03 ChroMaTe_ wrote: Now it's truly the North American Star League whether we wanted it to be or not. ... there are still koreans and europeans you know... | ||
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 09:57 AllHailCommonSense wrote: Great idea for a counter-troll. On a side note, it's funny to see a lot of "understanding" from some posters for the Korean side, their travel money issues, few sponsorships etc etc, but just about zero of that same "understanding" when it comes to the fact that NASL is a new venture with very little experience and stability, being expected to dish out these accomodations for KR players as if NASL were GOMTV. I think most of the reasonable posters have said that it's not the fault of NASL that they can't cater to the Korean's every demands under their current circumstances lol. Considering the amount of trolling and flames in this thread, digging up such posts might be a bit hard though. On August 13 2011 10:03 ChroMaTe_ wrote: To be honest it's their loss. NASL is a fantastic and fast-growing tournament and if they want to miss out, then it's no one's loss but theirs. Now it's truly the North American Star League whether we wanted it to be or not. Don't start with this BS. Please. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On August 13 2011 09:53 VillageBC wrote: Of course, it might be more fair since the qualifier field won't have been tainted by Koreans knocking however they meet out left and right regardless of how good they are in comparison to NA/EU players. *shrug* I think that's a good point. I wonder how many skilled players were taken out by Koreans that could have otherwise qualified for the league. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:08 Devolved wrote: I think that's a good point. I wonder how many skilled players were taken out by Koreans that could have otherwise qualified for the league. There's no silver lining to this. NASL doesn't have anything like the credibility it had without the Koreans in it. It's players fighting an inferior talent pool for a lot of money, and nothing else. Whoever wins, they won because the best players didn't turn up. | ||
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:12 iamthedave wrote: There's no silver lining to this. NASL doesn't have anything like the credibility it had without the Koreans in it. It's players fighting an inferior talent pool for a lot of money, and nothing else. Whoever wins, they won because the best players didn't turn up. Aww, you can't say that Puma, Rain, and HuK taking top spots would be undeserved... | ||
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
Who's starting with BS? Most non North American players were in form of Koreans. I'm not saying EVERYONE is North American but we lost a big chunk of the part that wasn't. | ||
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Shagg
Finland825 Posts
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:16 ChroMaTe_ wrote: Who's starting with BS? Most non North American players were in form of Koreans. I'm not saying EVERYONE is North American but we lost a big chunk of the part that wasn't. It was always the North American Star League regardless of where the players came from...It's a starleague based in North America. If you want only North American players, you might as well ban all the Eu, SEA, and SA players as well. Oh and Sen. Not to mention, the majority of the non-KR players that qualified are European. | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:16 ChroMaTe_ wrote: Who's starting with BS? Most non North American players were in form of Koreans. I'm not saying EVERYONE is North American but we lost a big chunk of the part that wasn't. EU players would like to have a word with you. And the BS he is referring to is this almost xenophobic idea that its the North American league, so it should only be NA players in it and everybody else be damned. | ||
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
It's really unfortunate that they couldn't work out a deal. This makes me very sad. :'( | ||
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SourD
United States81 Posts
on the other hand, i remember korean players playing at like 4am or something for the regular season and having to wait 2-3hours infront of their computer cuz the schedule was wrong/delayed....also i recall SOTG episode where they said grand finals schedule was all f'd up and NASL staff was breaking havoc looking for julyzerg 2 hours before his match telling him to play right now so i guess both sides have their reasons..its the viewers that lose out  | ||
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:16 ChroMaTe_ wrote: Who's starting with BS? Most non North American players were in form of Koreans. I'm not saying EVERYONE is North American but we lost a big chunk of the part that wasn't. Qualifier Breakdown By Region: NA: 9 (10 if including Rain) EU: 16 KR: 21 (22 if including Rain) Other: 2 *edit miscounted* | ||
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whateverpeeps
United States214 Posts
On August 13 2011 10:30 SourD wrote: yes, the koreans made mistake of signing contracts before the negotiations are settled. and its very unprofessional act that should never happen in business. on the other hand, i remember korean players playing at like 4am or something for the regular season and having to wait 2-3hours infront of their computer cuz the schedule was wrong/delayed....also i recall SOTG episode where they said grand finals schedule was all f'd up and NASL staff was breaking havoc looking for julyzerg 2 hours before his match telling him to play right now so i guess both sides have their reasons..its the viewers that lose out No, this was corrected in Season 2, so I don't think it had anything to do with current negotiations. I remember someone having to wait an awful long time, but I believe it was because of another player's no-show. I also don't think you have the July story right either. | ||
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WizShaw
Canada107 Posts
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Aberu
United States968 Posts
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
I'm not against this tbh, this make more spots for foreigners, and might encourage the foreign scene  | ||
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tripper688
United States569 Posts
On August 13 2011 11:03 Aberu wrote: Interesting, at least you didn't see a post from an NASL spokesman claming that the koreans are afraid to compete, like Mr. Chae did in response to many international players not showing up to the GSL that one time. Can you relink that please? I was of the impression that Mr. Chae was commenting more from the difficulties in going to Korea for GSL in terms of cost and commitment being so high rather than an outright diss about the the testicular fortitude of the foreigners... | ||
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