EPTtop 10 of prizemoney is korean, next thing we know they want to eat us aLive. they should have been happy from what they have. and think for foreigner player too. korean get special treatment in foreign tournaments but not enough they want everthing. NASL is still new, look like they want MLG shitty 15kprize pool + good stipend >NASL 100kprize money+enough stipend. weird,funny they talk about NASL stipend but cant talk about how MLG shitty prize money it is. maybe they cant touch MLG because of MLG+GOM partnership.
Korean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 109
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
top 10 of prizemoney is korean, next thing we know they want to eat us aLive. they should have been happy from what they have. and think for foreigner player too. korean get special treatment in foreign tournaments but not enough they want everthing. NASL is still new, look like they want MLG shitty 15kprize pool + good stipend >NASL 100kprize money+enough stipend. weird,funny they talk about NASL stipend but cant talk about how MLG shitty prize money it is. maybe they cant touch MLG because of MLG+GOM partnership. | ||
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PHC
United States472 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:11 Dexx wrote: If this is true, I say fuck them. But I think the reak reason for this is the Puma-EG fallout at NASL. East Asians have sense for being a collective. The collective is way more important than the individual. Thus if you go against one of them you will meet a wall of silence when you try to do business with others, supposed neutrals. This in mind, the Koreans may hold a grudge against NASL and EG and this fallout is just a continuation, a kind of pay back of what happened at the finals. Sure, NASL could not do anything against it, but since their name was involved, they have to suffer from it. I expect something directed against EG too. Maybe not now, but in moth or even years to come. East Asians have long memories when it comes to holding a grudge. I thought the same thing. I think this is more of a message to NASL/EG to prevent another Puma incident. It also doesn't help that NASL has a track record of being hostile, even towards their own customers - I mean even the tone in the OP is hostile ffs. Way to burn bridges NASL. Good job. Complete opposite of MLG and Dreamhack. | ||
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
The tournament itself won't be any less fun for me to watch. There will still be great players and good presentation. This is what makes watching SC2 fun for me. | ||
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MVBasten
Norway37 Posts
Anyways sad news and all, but doesn't seem to be anyone at fault on either side in this case. | ||
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
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lee365
United States448 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:23 theBizness wrote: Because the players and teams make up this committee? It's almost like the player's union in the NFL or NBA, except the coaches are involved. They're supposed to look out for the interests of ALL the players, not just the superstars. Except its like the NFL Owners and the Players Union combined in one. And how is allowing a guy like MC go to NASL screwing over the unknown players? My point is that it should be up to the individual team and player, rather than a vote (maybe some teams disagree with the committee's ruling, but are the minority). | ||
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pulsade13
Australia50 Posts
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:33 jmbthirteen wrote: Except its like the NFL Owners and the Players Union combined in one. Ehh sort of, I guess my analogy fails because there are multiple leagues. The bit about representing all of the players: players like MC might be able to afford it out of pocket, but I'm guessing overall they would prefer to try and get as many players to be able to participate as possible. A majority of the players represented by the committee aren't known superstars who can pay out of pocket for overseas tournaments. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:23 cheesemaster wrote: Well i dont understand that, if its cheaper to offer them full travel expenses, THEN JUST DO IT! This is really going to hurt their league and if what they wanted is full travel expenses and its actually cheaper than what they were offering.... Then why doesnt NASL just do it, they would save money from their last offer anyways. Something else is afoot here doesnt make much sense to me, i think it would be quite difficult for a korean team that doesnt speak english to arrange accomadations so im sure thats a factor as well, i think they just want to beable to land in america and not have any troubles or mix ups wich is understandable and other tournaments do that for them. Why the hell wouldnt NASL just pay their travel expenses if its supposedy cheaper as the NASL.TV post suggests? thats my question. Where is this idea that its cheaper for NASL to pay for travel than what their offer is coming from? Its simply not true. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:33 lee365 wrote: Thank god SlayerS isn't on that list Boxer already stated that he wont be competing in Season 2. | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
did all primary korean teams withdraw? Did they withdraw because of an overruling korean committee? What was the korean overlord's penalty to teams that decided the UNBELIEVABLY generous offer of $2,000 was actually fair, and wanted to participate? This strikes me as just one more reason not to renew my GOM pass. Oh well, looks like they're making my decisions for me now, too! Not that I care. Been a loyal, paying fan since the beginning, but after one season of NASL game that were consistently higher quality than anything I've ever seen on GOM, even with the slightly duller bracket method, I'm a convert. Not to mention, I don't have to listen to moletrap anymore! On August 12 2011 17:36 dabom88 wrote: Boxer already stated that he wont be competing in Season 2. Boxer isn't the only member of slayers  I get the feeling that boxer just needs a break. Guy gets so much shit, and yet performs so consistently amazing, while coaching a team and dating the most influential woman in starcraft. | ||
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Kaelaris
United Kingdom788 Posts
I for one love the effort NASL is putting in when it comes to expanding the foreign presence! <3 | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:37 Honeybadger wrote: This is pretty goddamn stupid. GOM doesn't get to bully around other tournaments. They're nowhere near influential enough for that. did all primary korean teams withdraw? Did they withdraw because of an overruling korean committee? What was the korean overlord's penalty to teams that decided the UNBELIEVABLY generous offer of $2,000 was actually fair, and wanted to participate? This strikes me as just one more reason not to renew my GOM pass. Oh well, looks like they're making my decisions for me now, too! Not that I care. Been a loyal, paying fan since the beginning, but after one season of NASL game that were consistently higher quality than anything I've ever seen on GOM, even with the slightly duller bracket method, I'm a convert. Not to mention, I don't have to listen to moletrap anymore! Because GOM made this decision... | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:28 Govou wrote: really? don't you find it strange you dont get the deposit money at least by now? Well considering some players have gotten it already, no I don't. There is a reason NASL put a 60 day period on it. | ||
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Kenkadrums
United States7 Posts
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:30 isleyofthenorth wrote: smart decision by incontrol to jump off before everything crashed i have to say, if i knew that was coming i would have done the same iNc leaving NASL had more to do with his personal expectation as a player before caster, but all in all, I'm happy that he left NASL and won't have to be associated with this mess. | ||
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PHC
United States472 Posts
On August 12 2011 17:35 Logros wrote: Funny thing is that European players have pretty much the same situation as far a money goes and they have a lot lower chances of winning anything, but noone is complaining there. That's the thing though, Koreans are even attending the grueling open brackets of MLG for only $5000 first prize, yet they are withdrawing from NASL's $40k first prize tournament. Something else is going on FOR SURE. | ||
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