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Denis Lachance
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada162 Posts
August 09 2011 12:55 GMT
#21
Of course he will

next question
Eppur si muove
Crovea
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark100 Posts
August 09 2011 13:07 GMT
#22
will jinro win code S?
ROOT4ROOT
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 09 2011 14:19 GMT
#23
I play with no particular BO at all and have trouble getting into Master. Do you think that taking time to learn some solid BO will make my way to Master easier? (Was Diamond from release)
Terran
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
August 09 2011 14:35 GMT
#24
On August 09 2011 23:19 Caphe wrote:
I play with no particular BO at all and have trouble getting into Master. Do you think that taking time to learn some solid BO will make my way to Master easier? (Was Diamond from release)


Yes, even if you are zerg that is a good idea. One (solid) build order for each of the matchups would be perfect.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2011 14:38 GMT
#25
If you're zerg having several build orders is required. A roach ling all in can only get you so far, especially with the popularity of stargate openings!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
August 09 2011 15:37 GMT
#26
On August 09 2011 23:38 Probe1 wrote:
If you're zerg having several build orders is required. A roach ling all in can only get you so far, especially with the popularity of stargate openings!


I think we don't agree on the meaning of "Buid Order" =P

Even if you are Terran, you can always open blue flame in TvZ, but then if you see roachs, you should know how to transition to marauders, but that transition is part of the metagame when using that build order. Your push at 8-9 is there so you can scout as well, if mass mutas, mass marines, if mass roachs, some marauders etc. But if you have more than 1 build order, then you have to understand a broader scope of the metagame and it makes things even more difficult.

So I'd recommend following only 1 build order, then you can understand better all the possibilities and transitions that will be require for the different strategies people will use against your opening. So yeah, 1 build order, but still plenty of possibilities and that's exact why it's better to stick to only 1 build order, 1 is already hard enough.
XXhkXX
Profile Joined June 2011
170 Posts
August 09 2011 16:09 GMT
#27
On August 10 2011 00:37 SDream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 23:38 Probe1 wrote:
If you're zerg having several build orders is required. A roach ling all in can only get you so far, especially with the popularity of stargate openings!


I think we don't agree on the meaning of "Buid Order" =P

Even if you are Terran, you can always open blue flame in TvZ, but then if you see roachs, you should know how to transition to marauders, but that transition is part of the metagame when using that build order. Your push at 8-9 is there so you can scout as well, if mass mutas, mass marines, if mass roachs, some marauders etc. But if you have more than 1 build order, then you have to understand a broader scope of the metagame and it makes things even more difficult.

So I'd recommend following only 1 build order, then you can understand better all the possibilities and transitions that will be require for the different strategies people will use against your opening. So yeah, 1 build order, but still plenty of possibilities and that's exact why it's better to stick to only 1 build order, 1 is already hard enough.


Also unless they're going an MC style stargate opener chances are that holding a 2 base roach ling all-in after they've expo'd and gone stargate is very unlikely. As long as your roaches and lings clean up his initial gateway army, the reinforcement lings should easily be able to clean up, as a few void rays won't really help much. If he's smart he may attempt a base race but usually in that scenario if you can continually reinforce you win anyways.
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
August 09 2011 17:29 GMT
#28
On August 09 2011 15:23 Probe1 wrote:
Well I mean I basically play wackamole in ZvT. Every time Terran shows up at a expansion I'm making another one some where. Unless I'm using it was a decoy to go kick their natural while they kill a third

I don't know what to tell you. I mean If Protoss just sits there they lose. In fact they're already behind if there are marines and tanks and all sorts of Terran shit sitting in their natural on top the wreckage of a nexus. But if they don't expand again.. what plan could they have? One base colossus and pray you forget how to make vikings?

Or maybe I'm seeing it wrong.


Please continue doing this. I love waiting until a expo is just finished before attacking it.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
August 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#29
On August 09 2011 23:19 Caphe wrote:
I play with no particular BO at all and have trouble getting into Master. Do you think that taking time to learn some solid BO will make my way to Master easier? (Was Diamond from release)


I recommend you working on your mechanics. Zerg dont use tactical build orders because they are a responsive race.
bluehunter
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
August 09 2011 18:00 GMT
#30
by any chance is DaySG on KR server Day9?? im pretty sure its not but just hopin
the only logical way to solve the candle problem is to turn the lights off... BOOM!
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
August 09 2011 21:43 GMT
#31
Hey everyone, I figured this would be a good place to let people know about the All Purpose Coaching Thread I made. I'm seeing more and more "FREE Coaching!" and "I need a coach" threads popping up and it would be easier to organize in one thread.
They're fools. You should eat them.
Thesidu
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden290 Posts
August 09 2011 21:48 GMT
#32
Does anyone know if you can still buy a 1 day GSL pass? Remember that they used to have that but can't seem to find it.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
August 09 2011 22:34 GMT
#33
Will HuK win GSL?
Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 22:51:23
August 09 2011 22:35 GMT
#34
On August 10 2011 07:34 RusHXceL wrote:
Will HuK win GSL?



I think he lost to MC.

Im almost sure that Huk will never win a gsl, he is overrated in my opinion.

*runs for all the huk fanboys*
Weeeee
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
August 09 2011 23:32 GMT
#35
On August 10 2011 07:35 Guamshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 07:34 RusHXceL wrote:
Will HuK win GSL?



I think he lost to MC.

Im almost sure that Huk will never win a gsl, he is overrated in my opinion.

*runs for all the huk fanboys*


Not particularly a Huk fanboi, but as far as foreigners go who is stronger? There's only 3 in my mind who are worth mentioning in that debate. Those being: Naniwa, Idra, Thorzain. I don't see any of those really being a clear favorite over Huk at the moment.

Absent their theoretical skills I feel there isn't even a debate as to who has the most achievements as of late.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
August 09 2011 23:49 GMT
#36
Oh, returning back to this thread to post what I originally crawled in here to do.

Random question:
When two identical units, in particular workers, attack each other what dictates who gets the killing blow? Assuming that both have equal vision, upgrades, etc.

This question arose from games where two scouting probes are attacking each other in synchronization(from appearances) yet one walks away the victor. Maybe it's possible to have simultaneous kills but I haven't seen it.

Obviously missle units can kill each other simultaneously, so I'm not too worried about that scenario.

My theory was that it had something to do with who had an attack command issued first even if both had to travel to attack, or maybe it was the last one to enter a straight line into combat loses, a la moving around terrain or reversing to attack the chasing probe.

If no one can provide an answer I'm totally up for testing this but I need a partner.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Atlasy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hungary229 Posts
August 09 2011 23:58 GMT
#37
Hey! Will blizzard be at gamescom 2011? Thx the answers,
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
August 10 2011 00:12 GMT
#38
I'm a Random player who switched back to Terran recently. I started playing Random in September 2010, so I have been Random longer than I've been Terran. Unless you count Starcraft 1, where I was Terran.

Anyway, my experience as a Random player has made me a better Terran player overall. Just thought I'd share this tip in case you hit a plateau in your chosen race.
"The drums! The drums! The drums! The neverending drumbeat! Open me, you human fool! Open the light and summon me and receive my majesty!"
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 10 2011 01:37 GMT
#39
On August 10 2011 02:53 Like a Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 23:19 Caphe wrote:
I play with no particular BO at all and have trouble getting into Master. Do you think that taking time to learn some solid BO will make my way to Master easier? (Was Diamond from release)


I recommend you working on your mechanics. Zerg dont use tactical build orders because they are a responsive race.

I am a Terran player . Gonna study some allin and esp the 1-1-1 vs Protoss.
Terran
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
August 10 2011 02:14 GMT
#40
Is there anyway we can get the Barracks before Depot opening back? I feel it's hard to do any early pressure without 2 raxing and that just delays tech so bad if you do no damage. Whereas, a protoss can pressure no problem with one stalker against Terran and a zerg can poke in with an easy counter if you try to move out.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
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