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Denis Lachance
Canada162 Posts
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Crovea
Denmark100 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On August 09 2011 23:19 Caphe wrote: I play with no particular BO at all and have trouble getting into Master. Do you think that taking time to learn some solid BO will make my way to Master easier? (Was Diamond from release) Yes, even if you are zerg that is a good idea. One (solid) build order for each of the matchups would be perfect. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On August 09 2011 23:38 Probe1 wrote: If you're zerg having several build orders is required. A roach ling all in can only get you so far, especially with the popularity of stargate openings! I think we don't agree on the meaning of "Buid Order" =P Even if you are Terran, you can always open blue flame in TvZ, but then if you see roachs, you should know how to transition to marauders, but that transition is part of the metagame when using that build order. Your push at 8-9 is there so you can scout as well, if mass mutas, mass marines, if mass roachs, some marauders etc. But if you have more than 1 build order, then you have to understand a broader scope of the metagame and it makes things even more difficult. So I'd recommend following only 1 build order, then you can understand better all the possibilities and transitions that will be require for the different strategies people will use against your opening. So yeah, 1 build order, but still plenty of possibilities and that's exact why it's better to stick to only 1 build order, 1 is already hard enough. | ||
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XXhkXX
170 Posts
On August 10 2011 00:37 SDream wrote: I think we don't agree on the meaning of "Buid Order" =P Even if you are Terran, you can always open blue flame in TvZ, but then if you see roachs, you should know how to transition to marauders, but that transition is part of the metagame when using that build order. Your push at 8-9 is there so you can scout as well, if mass mutas, mass marines, if mass roachs, some marauders etc. But if you have more than 1 build order, then you have to understand a broader scope of the metagame and it makes things even more difficult. So I'd recommend following only 1 build order, then you can understand better all the possibilities and transitions that will be require for the different strategies people will use against your opening. So yeah, 1 build order, but still plenty of possibilities and that's exact why it's better to stick to only 1 build order, 1 is already hard enough. Also unless they're going an MC style stargate opener chances are that holding a 2 base roach ling all-in after they've expo'd and gone stargate is very unlikely. As long as your roaches and lings clean up his initial gateway army, the reinforcement lings should easily be able to clean up, as a few void rays won't really help much. If he's smart he may attempt a base race but usually in that scenario if you can continually reinforce you win anyways. | ||
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
On August 09 2011 15:23 Probe1 wrote: Well I mean I basically play wackamole in ZvT. Every time Terran shows up at a expansion I'm making another one some where. Unless I'm using it was a decoy to go kick their natural while they kill a third  I don't know what to tell you. I mean If Protoss just sits there they lose. In fact they're already behind if there are marines and tanks and all sorts of Terran shit sitting in their natural on top the wreckage of a nexus. But if they don't expand again.. what plan could they have? One base colossus and pray you forget how to make vikings?  Or maybe I'm seeing it wrong. Please continue doing this. I love waiting until a expo is just finished before attacking it. | ||
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Like a Boss
502 Posts
On August 09 2011 23:19 Caphe wrote: I play with no particular BO at all and have trouble getting into Master. Do you think that taking time to learn some solid BO will make my way to Master easier? (Was Diamond from release) I recommend you working on your mechanics. Zerg dont use tactical build orders because they are a responsive race. | ||
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bluehunter
United States57 Posts
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Darclite
United States1021 Posts
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Thesidu
Sweden290 Posts
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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Guamshin
Netherlands295 Posts
On August 10 2011 07:34 RusHXceL wrote: Will HuK win GSL? I think he lost to MC. Im almost sure that Huk will never win a gsl, he is overrated in my opinion. *runs for all the huk fanboys* | ||
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Sokalo
United States375 Posts
On August 10 2011 07:35 Guamshin wrote: I think he lost to MC. Im almost sure that Huk will never win a gsl, he is overrated in my opinion. *runs for all the huk fanboys* Not particularly a Huk fanboi, but as far as foreigners go who is stronger? There's only 3 in my mind who are worth mentioning in that debate. Those being: Naniwa, Idra, Thorzain. I don't see any of those really being a clear favorite over Huk at the moment. Absent their theoretical skills I feel there isn't even a debate as to who has the most achievements as of late. | ||
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Sokalo
United States375 Posts
Random question: When two identical units, in particular workers, attack each other what dictates who gets the killing blow? Assuming that both have equal vision, upgrades, etc. This question arose from games where two scouting probes are attacking each other in synchronization(from appearances) yet one walks away the victor. Maybe it's possible to have simultaneous kills but I haven't seen it. Obviously missle units can kill each other simultaneously, so I'm not too worried about that scenario. My theory was that it had something to do with who had an attack command issued first even if both had to travel to attack, or maybe it was the last one to enter a straight line into combat loses, a la moving around terrain or reversing to attack the chasing probe. If no one can provide an answer I'm totally up for testing this but I need a partner. | ||
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Atlasy
Hungary229 Posts
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Aron Times
United States312 Posts
Anyway, my experience as a Random player has made me a better Terran player overall. Just thought I'd share this tip in case you hit a plateau in your chosen race. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On August 10 2011 02:53 Like a Boss wrote: I recommend you working on your mechanics. Zerg dont use tactical build orders because they are a responsive race. I am a Terran player  . Gonna study some allin and esp the 1-1-1 vs Protoss. | ||
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
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