I can only think of the identifier ... I can't fathom a way with which they could DDOS the players with that? Maybe they picked the wrong term, if they don't want to straight up release the replays during the tournament that's completely fine. But this:

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I just cannot believe. Stuff like this can be solved programmatically. If this is seriously only the character code (and what else is it gonna be) then even a programming novice could manage to strip that data from the replays. I don't buy the explanation that the whole of MLG doesn't field a single programmer that is capable of doing so.

I think they received complaints from teams & players saying that they don't want their replays released and they are coming up with a weird explanation like above. This is my theory .. I'd gladly be proven wrong.

I completely agree with this message. This sounds to me like a really lame excuse to not release replays, because as mentioned, all MLG had to do was either to remove the character code from the replays programatically (which takes no time at all), or simpler still to just release all the replays after the event was over.

It makes me sad they feel the need to lie to the community.

IcedBacon

Canada906 Posts

July 29 2011 21:51 GMT

#223

I was never a fan of releasing the replays anyways. I'm sure many pros wouldn't want others to have them and participation at MLG shouldn't mean potential opponents in the future will be able to analyze your play style.

ehalf

408 Posts

July 29 2011 21:52 GMT

#224

I can understand why MLG doesn't want to release rep but I cant understand why they lie about this.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

July 29 2011 21:53 GMT

#225

I demand instant gratification on everything. I want the VODs, the replays and interviews all released as they happen. Really, I don't know why they don't let us be observers in the games too. First come, first served. And if the casters can't get in because the game is full, too bad. I'm a Team Liquid forum member and part of the community. Everything should be available to me at all times.

Seriously MGL, why don't you have every player go in, set to busy and open 6 chat channels every game. I don't care if you have to log out each players between sets, this is what needs to happen for me to get what I want. Sure, setting up the players takes time and you are focused on keeping the stream going. But that doesn't matter, I want my replays and you should force every pro to do this so I can have what I want.

And this DDoS crap. I have been to some hacking websites on the internet, you may have heard of it. Let me tell you, from the 20 minutes of research I have done and my knowledge from building one PC from parts I ordered off Newegg, that excuse is total crap. You can't DDoS someone from a replay. Sure it gives you their battle.net account information and then you can message them, that's it. There is no possible way in the world that you can DDoS someone once you know their account info and that they are logged into battle.net. So stop giving us this crap and release the replays. We demand it and its way more important that all of the other crap you are doing.

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TheGrimace

United States929 Posts

July 29 2011 21:53 GMT

#226

Totally not cool. It was always fun to sit down the following week and just work through replays of people you liked. Such a great resource getting removed for such a flimsy reason. I am inclined to think it is pressure from Korean teams. I hope that's not really the reason.

postlapsaria

United States137 Posts

July 29 2011 21:53 GMT

#227

I don't see why this is that big of a deal. It seems to me that people are way overreacting.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

July 29 2011 21:55 GMT

#228

On July 30 2011 06:53 postlapsaria wrote:
I don't see why this is that big of a deal. It seems to me that people are way overreacting.

Some people have been basing a lot of their play off of MLG replays since the game came out. Some people would download the pack and watch some replays 10+ times.

I think its EXPECTED to see a reaction when a good number of people are used to pouring over this source of material every few months in order to better themselves in their hobby.

I_Love_Bacon

United States5765 Posts

July 29 2011 21:55 GMT

#229

On July 30 2011 06:53 postlapsaria wrote:
I don't see why this is that big of a deal. It seems to me that people are way overreacting.

Overreacting? On the internet?

IMPOSSIBLE!

This is the greatest injustice the SC2 world has known. Hell, even as an individual this is the biggest insult and disappointment of my life. Clearly. Totally. 100% Period.

Offhand

United States1869 Posts

July 29 2011 21:56 GMT

#230

On July 30 2011 05:32 SecondChance wrote:

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This would be solved if Blizzard enabled a LAN feature, right?

Practically all existing tournament problems would be solved by LAN.

Bnet 2.0 is gonna be so good you won't even need LAN!

Blackrobe

United States806 Posts

July 29 2011 21:56 GMT

#231

"RE: Replay release. Chat spam lags the game. Multiple other issues with releasing them during the event. See Columbus VoDs if you don't rem."

Are you kidding me?

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

July 29 2011 21:58 GMT

#232

MLG TWITTER
"RE: Replay release. Chat spam lags the game. Multiple other issues with releasing them during the event. See Columbus VoDs if you don't rem."

https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee/status/97062304545382400

So release them after the event?

Narcind

Sweden2489 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#233

Would love to hear a reason (if they can come up with one) why they wont release replays after the event is over.

WArped

United Kingdom4845 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#234

Seems like a ridiculous excuse to me, I have gone through SC2gears thoroughly and see no privacy of the player being shown in any form. MLG clearly know more than we do it .__.)

Sermokala

United States14103 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#235

People can parse out so much in a replay. You can even get the result of a "hidden game" by just being on battle.net. They said this a lot after columbus I'm really suprised people are shocked by this.

But still MLG is Ruining ESPORTS with this so hard.

novat

Great Britain33 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#236

On July 30 2011 06:53 postlapsaria wrote:
I don't see why this is that big of a deal. It seems to me that people are way overreacting.

One of the biggest tournaments evidently lying about the reason why they don't publish replays is ridiculous and should be opposed.

tubs

764 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#237

Typical corporate BS. The stuff they say about replay files is simply untrue. Like Rich mentioned it's probably due to pressure from koreans or other pro players who don't want their exact builds being released to the public.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#238

On July 30 2011 06:56 Blackrobe wrote:
"RE: Replay release. Chat spam lags the game. Multiple other issues with releasing them during the event. See Columbus VoDs if you don't rem."

https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee/status/97062304545382400

Are you kidding me?

No they are not. Blame the ass-hats who spammed them while they are trying to run a tournament, rather than MLG.

norterrible

United States618 Posts

July 29 2011 21:59 GMT

#239

ughhhh horrible news. seems lazy to me. I really like the replays from these events. Watching the replays is actually more fun in alot of ways than actually watching the casts.