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On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that.
You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar.
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On July 19 2011 20:48 Pwnographics wrote:
Instead of wasting time hunting down the people who made the comments her time could be better spent helping Eve to improve to prove them wrong.
Eve doesn't need Jessica next to her in order to improve at starcraft.
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The internet, is the internet. you will always get these types of people and their views. I think she should just.. maybe suck it up. and move on.
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On July 19 2011 20:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that. You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar.
Don't think his sister accepted a progamer job that she didn't deserve, while posing for photographs and welcoming publicity.
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i dont care about trolls man
why would she?
but anyways gogo female pros !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hope shes gonna make a gsl appearance (or gstl ofc)
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On July 19 2011 20:45 Valashu wrote:
Not sure what to say except that SlayerS_Jessica overreacted, you do not bring police into this and the mail wasn't full of flaming, just constructive critism.
Where is the thumbs down button when you need it?
Read this
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ek
It's not the those constructive criticism she is after. I feel OP post is poorly made and confuses lots of people.
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On July 19 2011 20:36 HydraLF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:26 Mykill wrote:
ew gold...
how can you be in gold, honestly I suck so bad an I'm in Diamond.
"hello, I'd like to report insults on twitter for my terrible starcraft skills..." You realise ladder is locked, I don't think its that impossible to drop a game in placement, I remember drewbie dropped a game in 1 of his placement matches on his new coL account, and he started in platinum.
I'm pretty sure the lock is recent. Unless it's a brand new account there is no reason to be in gold if your going to join a progaming team. There's nothing wrong technically with joining (since they can pick whoever) but honestly people have the right to flame you if you're bad
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On July 19 2011 20:53 furymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:45 Valashu wrote:
Not sure what to say except that SlayerS_Jessica overreacted, you do not bring police into this and the mail wasn't full of flaming, just constructive critism.
Where is the thumbs down button when you need it? Read this http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ekIt's not the those constructive criticism she is after. I feel OP post is poorly made and confuses lots of people.
That twitter is a biased source, posted by the Slayers translator.
The OP is neutral.
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On July 19 2011 20:52 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that. You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar. Don't think his sister accepted a progamer job that she didn't deserve, while posing for photographs and welcoming publicity.
Who are you to judge if she deserved the progammer job or not? Have you seen her play or something?
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absolutely, if i get angry and say something like "the senator is a corrupt fucking dickshit and i hope he dies" i dont want the fucking police knocking at my door and to go to jail for it
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On July 19 2011 20:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that. You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar.
I'm going to pretend for a sake of the argument that I have a sister.
If my sister wanted publicity as Jessica does, she would also pose in front of photographers and let her picture be posted on news websites for everybody to see. When you enter such a scene, it's stupid not to expect such an outcome.
Do you see where I'm getting at?
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On July 19 2011 20:46 AnalThermometer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:11 Faraday5001 wrote:
Anybody trying to argue against what she is doing are most likely people who like to troll forums, twitter etc themselves, and dont like the fact that people like them are finally publically being called out for what they do and are scared.
On the other hand you could argue people who are against what she is doing have a greater understanding of the internet as the closest thing to actual freedom left. The people actually in favor of internet censorship because they want revenge on some twitter or 4chan trolls who hurt their feelings probably have no concept of how lucky they really are.
This isn't about freedom. This is about people being assholes and cowards. Someone could come out in public and say that recruiting SlayerS_Eve is probably a failed idea and she probaby won't turn out to be much of a progamer. While that would be rude, it's an opinion and people would live with it. Posting highly inflammatory remarks about her gender and shopping pictures of a 22 year old girl are something else. The fact that you would even bring freedom into something like this is laughable. We're at a time where people should be held accountable for their actions and stop thinking that they can get away with everything in the name of "rights" and "freedom". This shit makes me sick. People that do this are the same people that riot after their sports team loses and vandalize things thinking that they'll get away with it.
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On July 19 2011 20:55 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:52 Kraznaya wrote:On July 19 2011 20:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that. You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar. Don't think his sister accepted a progamer job that she didn't deserve, while posing for photographs and welcoming publicity. Who are you to judge if she deserved the programmer job or not? Have you seen her play or something?
When did she take a programmer job? In any case, I wouldn't rate a progammer's skill based on him playing Starcraft games.
As for her progaming job, she isn't in Code B, or even close. Considering that GOM basically considers Code B, or the top 0.2% of all players on the KR server to be the qualifying line for GSL entry, and she isn't even in the top 40% (based on her Gold account), I'd say I can make a good guess that she isn't deserving of a progaming career based on merit alone. I mean, Kim Ga Yeon herself suggested that she was recruited partially based on "looks." But really, that's not the point. Emma Watson is a fine actress, but I'm not brandishing any pitchforks at all the photoshopped nudes of her.
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On July 19 2011 20:56 FFGenerations wrote:
absolutely, if i get angry and say something like "the senator is a corrupt fucking dickshit and i hope he dies" i dont want the fucking police knocking at my door and to go to jail for it
You said that because you got angry.
They did that because...they got angry at someone they don't know at all?
On July 19 2011 20:58 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:55 Linwelin wrote:On July 19 2011 20:52 Kraznaya wrote:On July 19 2011 20:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that. You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar. Don't think his sister accepted a progamer job that she didn't deserve, while posing for photographs and welcoming publicity. Who are you to judge if she deserved the programmer job or not? Have you seen her play or something? When did she take a programmer job? In any case, I wouldn't rate a progammer's skill based on him playing Starcraft games. As for her progaming job, she isn't in Code B, or even close. Considering that GOM basically considers Code B, or the top 0.2% of all players on the KR server to be the qualifying line for GSL entry, and she isn't even in the top 40% (based on her Gold account), I'd say I can make a good guess that she isn't deserving of a progaming career based on merit alone. I mean, Kim Ga Yeon herself suggested that she was recruited partially based on "looks." But really, that's not the point. Emma Watson is a fine actress, but I'm not brandishing any pitchforks at all the photoshopped nudes of her.
Oh noes a typo, lets make fun of that
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She is not the first progamer girl
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On July 19 2011 20:52 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:50 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On July 19 2011 20:48 Xiphiass wrote:
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.
Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.
If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.
In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?
Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.
How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that. You're right. Now post some pictures of your sister so we can shop that onto a pornstar. Don't think his sister accepted a progamer job that she didn't deserve, while posing for photographs and welcoming publicity.
Who's right to decide if she deserve to be part of Slayers team? oh right, it's not you, it's them.
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On July 19 2011 20:48 Pwnographics wrote:
Instead of wasting time hunting down the people who made the comments her time could be better spent helping Eve to improve to prove them wrong.
So you mean that Eve can't get better at Starcraft 2 as long as Jessica, who doesn't even play the game, tries to stop haters?
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This jessica girl or w/e is only making it worse by going so public about the procisicution by leaking pictures and ''evidence'' and using twitter or whatnot. So for this girl that was being insulted its only getting worse because its going to get more attention. If you want to sue people like that do it discreet and dont twitter and talk arround about it ffs. Im sure 99% of this community wouldnt even know about the sexual harrasment or insults if had not gone so public.
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On July 19 2011 20:59 4Servy wrote:
This jessica girl or w/e is only making it worse by going so public about the procisicution by leaking pictures and ''evidence'' and using twitter or whatnot. So for this girl that was being insulted its only getting worse because its going to get more attention. If you want to sue people like that do it discreet. Im sure 99% of this community wouldnt even know about the sexual harrasment or insults if had not gone so public.
Exactly. If I was part of the community that was being attacked by Jessica for this, I'd make sure to give them as much hell as possible in retaliation.
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