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iLikeYourStylez
Profile Joined July 2011
United States23 Posts
July 19 2011 11:18 GMT
#381
I almost feel like I should cheer on Jessica. Haters gonna hate? Then pay the price for hating. Defamation is just downright terrible, especially for Koreans, and I believe that I'm not stereotyping Koreans either. Look at Korean defamation laws, those weren't created to be so strict without any reason; defamation and slander is a big offense in Korean culture. I feel like when people say stuff like, "Oh stop being so immature about it. Just shrug it off," that they are somewhat ignoring cultural differences. Some countries and cultures value somethings more than others and take somethings more seriously than others.

I feel like if someone was stupid enough go that far to defame an innocent person, then Jessica should go tenfold the distance.
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
July 19 2011 11:18 GMT
#382
On July 19 2011 20:14 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:13 hippocritical wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:07 furymonkey wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:01 hippocritical wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:59 furymonkey wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:57 TanX wrote:
Seriously, who the fuck cares about having sexual content photoshop'd with your face on it? what difference does it make to your life? nothing at all! Ignore that shit and be a mature person.


You want to give us your photo? Let us photoshop a bit and post it around the area you live and work, because you wouldn't mind right?


I thought they were posting on an message board called DCInside? If they did post photos of Eve around her home then that is definitely wrong.


The idea is similar, it might be okay for us to have our photoshoped photo floating around the internet, but that is because we won't be famous enough to be recognized and assocaited with the photo.

Just imagine your family, friends and coworker found homosexual content with your face on it, it would be horrible.


Embarrassing yes, but that is part of what happens on the internet, people may find a picture on the internet and do whatever they want with it because that is anonymity of internet. I certainly wouldn't like it if someone did do that, but what I wouldn't track those people down and send them to jail because they sexually harassed me. I don't know their motives, I don't know if they do it for fun or are doing it out of jest, and I shouldn't care if they did it out of malice. People on the internet aren't the same people they are in real life, keyboard warriors like me exist everywhere, but to jail people in real life because they were being huge jackasses? That is a step too far.

so you're saying that you are just not a sensitive 16 years old girl who just stepped into the world of esport as the first female sc2 progamer?


If I was a sensitive 16 year old girl that turned into a female programer (definitely not the first female sc2 programer I would think?), I wouldn't be going on message boards looking for hate threads about me. I'd be training hard and getting better at sc2 so I can prove that sensitive 16 year old female progamers can play at the highest level.
Chickaboom
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
July 19 2011 11:18 GMT
#383
i dont think shes overreacting at all if u had a chance to stop trolls and ppl to talk crap about you...then why not do it, i support the law there and what jessica is doin...
dattebayo!
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 19 2011 11:20 GMT
#384
I don't think jail time will be involved. It's probably a warning at the minimum and a fine at best.

I'm pretty sure many here would be pretty offended too if their mums/sisters were the targets instead.

Dissing her for her skill is one thing. The porn pic has much severe implications.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
July 19 2011 11:21 GMT
#385
Again, I couldn't find the source that if police are involved, those people will be "jailed". So stop trying to blow this out of proportion.

i'd support the idea that these people will be forced to come out and apologize publicly, let them feel shame like what they are trying to do to the girl.
Leenock the Punisher
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 19 2011 11:22 GMT
#386
On July 19 2011 20:18 hippocritical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:14 brachester wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:13 hippocritical wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:07 furymonkey wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:01 hippocritical wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:59 furymonkey wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:57 TanX wrote:
Seriously, who the fuck cares about having sexual content photoshop'd with your face on it? what difference does it make to your life? nothing at all! Ignore that shit and be a mature person.


You want to give us your photo? Let us photoshop a bit and post it around the area you live and work, because you wouldn't mind right?


I thought they were posting on an message board called DCInside? If they did post photos of Eve around her home then that is definitely wrong.


The idea is similar, it might be okay for us to have our photoshoped photo floating around the internet, but that is because we won't be famous enough to be recognized and assocaited with the photo.

Just imagine your family, friends and coworker found homosexual content with your face on it, it would be horrible.


Embarrassing yes, but that is part of what happens on the internet, people may find a picture on the internet and do whatever they want with it because that is anonymity of internet. I certainly wouldn't like it if someone did do that, but what I wouldn't track those people down and send them to jail because they sexually harassed me. I don't know their motives, I don't know if they do it for fun or are doing it out of jest, and I shouldn't care if they did it out of malice. People on the internet aren't the same people they are in real life, keyboard warriors like me exist everywhere, but to jail people in real life because they were being huge jackasses? That is a step too far.

so you're saying that you are just not a sensitive 16 years old girl who just stepped into the world of esport as the first female sc2 progamer?


If I was a sensitive 16 year old girl that turned into a female programer (definitely not the first female sc2 programer I would think?), I wouldn't be going on message boards looking for hate threads about me. I'd be training hard and getting better at sc2 so I can prove that sensitive 16 year old female progamers can play at the highest level.


Pretty sure she is the first female sc2 programmer. At least the first female (sc2) programmer in Korea. Ignoring the hate doesn't make it disappear
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
July 19 2011 11:22 GMT
#387
Before any of us can comment on this I think you have to take into account the context of everything. This isn't North America or Europe or anywhere, this is Korea, a country steeped on respect. The person in this situation also isn't a 25 year old nerd who doesn't give a crap about the world. This is a 40 something year old actress who is actually a REAL public figure who has given up her career to manage this e-sports team. 99.9% of us here will never know what it is like to do something like that and have as much passion as she does for what she is doing. Just something to think about before you go "luls stop overreacting Jessica".
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
July 19 2011 11:24 GMT
#388
about time that trolls get to pay for their actions, if you ask me... which obviously no one does.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
July 19 2011 11:25 GMT
#389
Hope the flamers, trolls and perverts get punished. The internet is riddled with a bunch of mind dumbing crap and I hope those fucking kids who think they can hide behind their anonymity learn a lesson before making sexual threats at someone who is trying to do something positive.

Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 19 2011 11:26 GMT
#390
ew gold...
how can you be in gold, honestly I suck so bad an I'm in Diamond.

"hello, I'd like to report insults on twitter for my terrible starcraft skills..."
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
LittleJohn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden204 Posts
July 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#391
She seems emotionally unstable to me, reading the OP is just sad.
TanX
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark92 Posts
July 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#392
Has anyone actually seen the pornographic imagery? like, all the information being provided is questionable, including what I base my opinion on. We should probably just wait and see what Jessica says about the incident at a later stage, but seeing all the comments directed at police regulation of the internet is insane.

I definitely see a distinction between free speech and harassment (stalking), but a single innocent image that is floating around in a never-to-be-seen database does not equal harassment. However, if said picture is being uploaded everywhere, if a stream of pictures gets into your social surroundings and all attempts to remove it are being met with forever more pictures being released, then I definitely agree with a 'slap on the wrist' type of punishment as long as it stays off the police record.

But honestly, ignoring said pictures will be the best option anyway as they die out and fall of the radar soon enough anyway.
'but this is not supposed to be the old starcraft'
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 11:35:20
July 19 2011 11:34 GMT
#393
On July 19 2011 20:30 TanX wrote:
Has anyone actually seen the pornographic imagery? like, all the information being provided is questionable, including what I base my opinion on. We should probably just wait and see what Jessica says about the incident at a later stage, but seeing all the comments directed at police regulation of the internet is insane.

I definitely see a distinction between free speech and harassment (stalking), but a single innocent image that is floating around in a never-to-be-seen database does not equal harassment. However, if said picture is being uploaded everywhere, if a stream of pictures gets into your social surroundings and all attempts to remove it are being met with forever more pictures being released, then I definitely agree with a 'slap on the wrist' type of punishment as long as it stays off the police record.

But honestly, ignoring said pictures will be the best option anyway as they die out and fall of the radar soon enough anyway.


Again, I disagree with your logic. Basically you're saying that if you send sick photo, letter to the person directly, it wouldn't count as harassment, because it isn't avaiable publicly? Then I'm sure most sexual harassment court case wouldn't stand then.

You hear it folks, it's fine as long no one else sees it!
Leenock the Punisher
Zamee
Profile Joined July 2011
England51 Posts
July 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#394
Maybe she shouldn't hire a girl for publicity who, on paper, can't play the game at a professional standard at all? Seems extremely self inflicted to me.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#395
On July 19 2011 20:18 hippocritical wrote:
If I was a sensitive 16 year old girl that turned into a female programer (definitely not the first female sc2 programer I would think?), I wouldn't be going on message boards looking for hate threads about me. I'd be training hard and getting better at sc2 so I can prove that sensitive 16 year old female progamers can play at the highest level.

But you are just a random someone who is so self-important that you consider you point of view to be the most intelligent one. Arrogance isn't a quality you should hone.

Maybe this girl has friends who are telling her what happen ?
Maybe her parents are aware of it ?

So much you don't know and you still judge.
tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
July 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#396
On July 19 2011 20:22 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Before any of us can comment on this I think you have to take into account the context of everything. This isn't North America or Europe or anywhere, this is Korea, a country steeped on respect. The person in this situation also isn't a 25 year old nerd who doesn't give a crap about the world. This is a 40 something year old actress who is actually a REAL public figure who has given up her career to manage this e-sports team. 99.9% of us here will never know what it is like to do something like that and have as much passion as she does for what she is doing. Just something to think about before you go "luls stop overreacting Jessica".


I highly agree with this. It's easy for most of us here on TL to shrug off haters and trolls but you can't say the same for Koreans as they have a different outlook. Also, I highly doubt that majority of the haters are simply posting a Korean version of "umad?".
Minatozaki Sana / Hirai Momo / Myoui Mina / Yoo Jeongyeon / Zhou Tzuyu / Im Nayeon / Son Chaeyoung / Kim Dahyun / Park Jihyo
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
July 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#397
i support jessica. gogo jessica ;>
HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
July 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#398
On July 19 2011 20:26 Mykill wrote:
ew gold...
how can you be in gold, honestly I suck so bad an I'm in Diamond.

"hello, I'd like to report insults on twitter for my terrible starcraft skills..."


You realise ladder is locked, I don't think its that impossible to drop a game in placement, I remember drewbie dropped a game in 1 of his placement matches on his new coL account, and he started in platinum.
Sure.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
July 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#399
On July 19 2011 20:18 hippocritical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:14 brachester wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:13 hippocritical wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:07 furymonkey wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:01 hippocritical wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:59 furymonkey wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:57 TanX wrote:
Seriously, who the fuck cares about having sexual content photoshop'd with your face on it? what difference does it make to your life? nothing at all! Ignore that shit and be a mature person.


You want to give us your photo? Let us photoshop a bit and post it around the area you live and work, because you wouldn't mind right?


I thought they were posting on an message board called DCInside? If they did post photos of Eve around her home then that is definitely wrong.


The idea is similar, it might be okay for us to have our photoshoped photo floating around the internet, but that is because we won't be famous enough to be recognized and assocaited with the photo.

Just imagine your family, friends and coworker found homosexual content with your face on it, it would be horrible.


Embarrassing yes, but that is part of what happens on the internet, people may find a picture on the internet and do whatever they want with it because that is anonymity of internet. I certainly wouldn't like it if someone did do that, but what I wouldn't track those people down and send them to jail because they sexually harassed me. I don't know their motives, I don't know if they do it for fun or are doing it out of jest, and I shouldn't care if they did it out of malice. People on the internet aren't the same people they are in real life, keyboard warriors like me exist everywhere, but to jail people in real life because they were being huge jackasses? That is a step too far.

so you're saying that you are just not a sensitive 16 years old girl who just stepped into the world of esport as the first female sc2 progamer?


If I was a sensitive 16 year old girl that turned into a female programer (definitely not the first female sc2 programer I would think?), I wouldn't be going on message boards looking for hate threads about me. I'd be training hard and getting better at sc2 so I can prove that sensitive 16 year old female progamers can play at the highest level.

Just like InControl and TotalBiscuit?

Oh wait...
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#400
I don't have a problem with her going against flamers, but the incident the OP describes in his post (attacking people who were having private conversations/polite inquiries) seems to be going a bit too far...in a different thread I read some things people were saying and they were terrible, yeah, but it seems like she's reacting really broadly to comments that aren't necessarily insulting to Slayers Eve or that inflammatory in general.
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