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MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
July 19 2011 11:40 GMT
#401
In Korea, manners are very very important, everywhere you go, you will see Koreans bowing and using honorifics to greet people. Thus they have specific names to greet people of all ages. Example : Nuna,hyung, oppa and so on..
ovrpwrd
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 19 2011 11:41 GMT
#402
Well, that's the dumbest shit I've ever read. What the fuck? If she can't deal with a bunch of nobodies talking shit she shouldn't have any job that deals with the public in any way. Police? Wow.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 19 2011 11:42 GMT
#403
On July 19 2011 19:54 Unnamezz wrote:
Erm, @oniontaker posted this.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ek


More people should read that
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 19 2011 11:44 GMT
#404
On July 19 2011 20:36 HydraLF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:26 Mykill wrote:
ew gold...
how can you be in gold, honestly I suck so bad an I'm in Diamond.

"hello, I'd like to report insults on twitter for my terrible starcraft skills..."


You realise ladder is locked, I don't think its that impossible to drop a game in placement, I remember drewbie dropped a game in 1 of his placement matches on his new coL account, and he started in platinum.


Also, would Jessica recruit an average gold "scrub", no matter if male, female, good looking or bad looking? Definatly not.
Eve must have in some way impressed her and that is good enough for me. I trust the Empress and her Emperor, they are no fools.

Most posts in this thread make me even more depressed than i already was... "It's free speech, i can say whatever i want", "She should just ignore it, i can, why can't she?", "She should just suck it up", "It's the internet, you can't do anything", "She's gone crazy"...

I can't find any words that can express my anger about this...

EMPRESS FIGHTING!
Haze.884
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand192 Posts
July 19 2011 11:44 GMT
#405
On July 19 2011 20:42 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 19:54 Unnamezz wrote:
Erm, @oniontaker posted this.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ek


More people should read that


Its on the OP
a
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
July 19 2011 11:44 GMT
#406
On July 19 2011 20:35 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:18 hippocritical wrote:
If I was a sensitive 16 year old girl that turned into a female programer (definitely not the first female sc2 programer I would think?), I wouldn't be going on message boards looking for hate threads about me. I'd be training hard and getting better at sc2 so I can prove that sensitive 16 year old female progamers can play at the highest level.

But you are just a random someone who is so self-important that you consider you point of view to be the most intelligent one. Arrogance isn't a quality you should hone.

Maybe this girl has friends who are telling her what happen ?
Maybe her parents are aware of it ?

So much you don't know and you still judge.


i agree,
she could very well be doing the those things, this practicing you mentioned, and more while dealing with this as a 'sensitive' 16 y/o

i'm not her, so how can i say whether any of this is morally correct or wrong?
you are not her, and you are not slayers_jessica,
how would you explain to your parents that assholes on the internet are doing some depressing stuff to ruin your image?
now my assumption would be that you'd say it's part of the job
great profession right there
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 11:47:05
July 19 2011 11:45 GMT
#407
Not sure what to say except that SlayerS_Jessica overreacted, you do not bring police into this and the mail wasn't full of flaming, just constructive critism.

Where is the thumbs down button when you need it?
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
July 19 2011 11:45 GMT
#408
On July 19 2011 20:44 Haze.884 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:42 Linwelin wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:54 Unnamezz wrote:
Erm, @oniontaker posted this.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ek


More people should read that


Its on the OP

And now so many more will see those images, that's counter productive. If anything this will spur people to make more of them.
Not cool but I can't see how suing will help anyone.
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
July 19 2011 11:46 GMT
#409
On July 19 2011 20:35 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:18 hippocritical wrote:
If I was a sensitive 16 year old girl that turned into a female programer (definitely not the first female sc2 programer I would think?), I wouldn't be going on message boards looking for hate threads about me. I'd be training hard and getting better at sc2 so I can prove that sensitive 16 year old female progamers can play at the highest level.

But you are just a random someone who is so self-important that you consider you point of view to be the most intelligent one. Arrogance isn't a quality you should hone.

Maybe this girl has friends who are telling her what happen ?
Maybe her parents are aware of it ?

So much you don't know and you still judge.


And you appear so holier than thou, on your mighty high horse attacking me for voicing my opinion. IT'S MY OPINION, I respect your thought process, and I have already said that I don't condone sexual harassment in any way. All I'm trying to say is often the best way emotionally of dealing with harassment is not to take it seriously. The moment you let those images get to you and start affecting how you do job is a problem.

Are you going to brandish your pitchfork at me because I'm playing the devil's advocate? I'm saying she shouldn't focus on the negatives, and focus on being the best player she can be. How am I being arrogant saying that?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 19 2011 11:46 GMT
#410
On July 19 2011 20:44 Haze.884 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:42 Linwelin wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:54 Unnamezz wrote:
Erm, @oniontaker posted this.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ek


More people should read that


Its on the OP


And apparently a lot of people didn't read it
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
July 19 2011 11:46 GMT
#411
On July 19 2011 20:11 Faraday5001 wrote:
Anybody trying to argue against what she is doing are most likely people who like to troll forums, twitter etc themselves, and dont like the fact that people like them are finally publically being called out for what they do and are scared.


On the other hand you could argue people who are against what she is doing have a greater understanding of the internet as the closest thing to actual freedom left. The people actually in favor of internet censorship because they want revenge on some twitter or 4chan trolls who hurt their feelings probably have no concept of how lucky they really are.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 19 2011 11:47 GMT
#412
So I'm still waiting for all the people brandishing pitchforks to go after the people who made the Emma Watson and every other female celebrity porn photoshops.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
July 19 2011 11:48 GMT
#413
Instead of wasting time hunting down the people who made the comments her time could be better spent helping Eve to improve to prove them wrong.
Xiphiass
Profile Joined July 2010
Latvia144 Posts
July 19 2011 11:48 GMT
#414
Oh, please. Adjust your priorities appropriately if someone on the internet angers or insults you. I'm not talking about valid death threats and such - some of these have an actual risk of affecting your real life. Hiding behind anonymity is the next logical step in democracy - it allows you to express unpopular opinion and not be afraid of prosecution because of that. Except for the internet, where else can you do it? I find it incredibly idiotic that so many people in this thread are ready to throw this privilege away so easily.

Someone said something mean to someone else on the internet? Eat it up.

If you're a female and you join a progaming team and you might not be as skilled as the other members - get ready to get flamed for all those reasons. This debate isn't about white knighting or affirmative action towards females in progaming scene, it's about the time people look past such differences in a game where you use your knowledge, experience and critical thinking.

In modern world, you must look beyond cultural differences (especially when you enter something that is international). This is a case of walking down a street where "Fuck you" is written on the wall and getting offended by that. Will you go to the police because of that?

Starcraft community is taking itself too damn seriously. Some things do not truly matter ("Oh my god, he called down a mule as he was winning!"), learn to look past them. There's a lesson in everything, and if you want everybody to see you, you have to accept that not everybody will see you how you like to be seen. Play, watch, learn and enjoy. Don't be so self-indulgent, some of you. Some of you that go to the korean police because of internet matters, especially.

How she acts and what she is about to do is stupid. That's the end of that.
Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 19 2011 11:49 GMT
#415
On July 19 2011 20:44 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:36 HydraLF wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:26 Mykill wrote:
ew gold...
how can you be in gold, honestly I suck so bad an I'm in Diamond.

"hello, I'd like to report insults on twitter for my terrible starcraft skills..."


You realise ladder is locked, I don't think its that impossible to drop a game in placement, I remember drewbie dropped a game in 1 of his placement matches on his new coL account, and he started in platinum.


Also, would Jessica recruit an average gold "scrub", no matter if male, female, good looking or bad looking? Definatly not.
Eve must have in some way impressed her and that is good enough for me. I trust the Empress and her Emperor, they are no fools.

Most posts in this thread make me even more depressed than i already was... "It's free speech, i can say whatever i want", "She should just ignore it, i can, why can't she?", "She should just suck it up", "It's the internet, you can't do anything", "She's gone crazy"...

I can't find any words that can express my anger about this...

EMPRESS FIGHTING!


Everyone who looks at Boxer like some kind of infallible god needs to take a look at every SKT zerg that ever existed.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 19 2011 11:49 GMT
#416
On July 19 2011 20:46 AnalThermometer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:11 Faraday5001 wrote:
Anybody trying to argue against what she is doing are most likely people who like to troll forums, twitter etc themselves, and dont like the fact that people like them are finally publically being called out for what they do and are scared.


On the other hand you could argue people who are against what she is doing have a greater understanding of the internet as the closest thing to actual freedom left. The people actually in favor of internet censorship because they want revenge on some twitter or 4chan trolls who hurt their feelings probably have no concept of how lucky they really are.


So you should be free to do anything you want even if it affects other people?
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
July 19 2011 11:50 GMT
#417
Well if u are keeping an eye on stevenBonell u can see a lot of influence of internet to real life.

I f*** love this. There is a thin line between trolling and actual hating and I hope she gets her case and teaches those guys a lesson, because its pure defamation!
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3460 Posts
July 19 2011 11:50 GMT
#418
Well it seems SlayerS'Jessica may be overreacting a little, but to be fair Slayers'Eve doesnt deserve any of this hatred and something had to be done.

It s understandable that Jessica wants to punish everyone because it s hard to draw a line between "acceptable insults" and "insults you ll take to the police", especially when you re already outraged.

Plus I m not familiar with Korean culture but I d assume lacking respect is a serious thing there.

Anyways I hope SlayerS will sor it out and punish people who deserve to be, and I d also like to wish Eve good luck in Slayers! It s always exciting for us to follow one of their new players!
Horang2 fan
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 11:51:49
July 19 2011 11:50 GMT
#419
On July 19 2011 20:49 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:46 AnalThermometer wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:11 Faraday5001 wrote:
Anybody trying to argue against what she is doing are most likely people who like to troll forums, twitter etc themselves, and dont like the fact that people like them are finally publically being called out for what they do and are scared.


On the other hand you could argue people who are against what she is doing have a greater understanding of the internet as the closest thing to actual freedom left. The people actually in favor of internet censorship because they want revenge on some twitter or 4chan trolls who hurt their feelings probably have no concept of how lucky they really are.


So you should be free to do anything you want even if it affects other people?


Wait, it should be up to the goverment? welcome to Korea, North Korea.

edit:A bit rude but I'm trying to make a point.
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 19 2011 11:50 GMT
#420
On July 19 2011 20:49 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:46 AnalThermometer wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:11 Faraday5001 wrote:
Anybody trying to argue against what she is doing are most likely people who like to troll forums, twitter etc themselves, and dont like the fact that people like them are finally publically being called out for what they do and are scared.


On the other hand you could argue people who are against what she is doing have a greater understanding of the internet as the closest thing to actual freedom left. The people actually in favor of internet censorship because they want revenge on some twitter or 4chan trolls who hurt their feelings probably have no concept of how lucky they really are.


So you should be free to do anything you want even if it affects other people?


Public figures lose the right to complain about their likeness being used in demeaning ways when they become public figures.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
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