EPTOh wait, I was never a fan. Looks like I never will be either.
RootPrincess/SixjaxMajor caught smurfing in tourny - Page 32
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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway. Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please. | ||
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tuestresfat
2555 Posts
Oh wait, I was never a fan. Looks like I never will be either. | ||
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aFF.TEEN
France99 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:48 Pumaska wrote: It's things like this that makes it hard to be fan of Major :S What does behaviour have to do with play? | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:48 Pumaska wrote: It's things like this that makes it hard to be fan of Major :S I think most fans of major already accepted this side of him. The "dirty fighter" if you will. | ||
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:29 ke_ivan wrote: triple idiot tagged User was warned for this post I just want to say... I blame you TT1... lulz. Also sixjax will do what they want and everyone else will do what they want. If they experience a drop in sales and an increase in traffic, they will know it's all sixjaxMajOr's fault. If that doesn't happen then cool too, he'll just never win any prizes from SEA. Sixjax doesn't fund this pro team for nuthin, you know. Sixjax does this to increase awareness of their brand. Sure, they have more brand awareness now, but they have created negative brand equity for themselves. I'm sure they'll give MajOr a big pat on the back for themselves. lulz. | ||
Deaths Fang
Australia3 Posts
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aFF.TEEN
France99 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote: The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded. Not implying I disagree, but it's pretty silly and immature to insult people just because they disagree with your opinion. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote: The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded. Ouch, try not to ad hominem attack. It does not really fly here. Good point though. Regional tournaments are a part of any sport. Just look at......any sport. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote: If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever? I'm sorry, but when did you start holding our hands? I wasn't aware of your contribution. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote: The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded. your wording is kinda trixy because you can draw a lot of parallels from what you say to lets say.. the TL Open which has now become a great place for korean players to win some cash. i want to make the distinction that they are different situations and the TL Open's purpose is not necessarily primarily just for the NA scene, but i want to clarify that i think the issue is simply: a rule was broken by a pro in a disrespectful way. i think discussion about nationality, scene development, and the like are really secondary in importance in this thread. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:57 Sated wrote: Meh. Major was told he couldn't participate, he shouldn't have done this, it is pretty obvious that this was a bad thing to do etc. I don't think that's the important issue, though. What I think of reading some of the replies to this thread is this: People complained when Catz suggested that some tournaments shouldn't allow Koreans to participate so the Foreigner scene can grow. The condemnation was fairly outspoken and people thought it was stupid that Koreans shouldn't be allowed in Foreign tournaments. One of the main reasons given was that the Foreigner scene wouldn't grow as quickly as Foreigners wouldn't need to compete against the best for money, they'd only have to compete with each other. On the flip-side, people are now arguing that this SEA-restricted tournament is going to help the SEA scene grow by allowing the SEA players to make some money playing the game, giving them more time to train so that they'll be able to take on players from other regions/Korea. Erm, pick one guys. Please? The foreign scene at large is developed enough to get rid of the training wheels now. As for each individual region to stack up against the koreans, that is a bit of a tall tall order. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:57 JiYan wrote: your wording is kinda trixy because you can draw a lot of parallels from what you say to lets say.. the TL Open which has now become a great place for korean players to win some cash. i want to make the distinction that they are different situations and the TL Open's purpose is not necessarily primarily just for the NA scene, but i want to clarify that i think the issue is simply: a rule was broken by a pro in a disrespectful way. i think discussion about nationality, scene development, and the like are really secondary in importance in this thread. Exactly, the rule was broken, the rest is completely irrelevant and shouldn't be even mentioned once in this thread. | ||
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BackSideAttack
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Azera
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Chillax
England585 Posts
Just displays poor judgement and a lack of maturity on his part. I really want to root for this kid, he's a fantastic talent and he has so much potential. But silly little things like that always bring him down. Its a pity. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On July 18 2011 18:05 Sated wrote: I think Korean dominance in recent Foreign tournaments and FXO's run in the GSTL shows that the Foreign scene, as a whole, isn't really ready to do any such thing. I wouldn't use FXO as an example as we all knew what was going to happen. With people like Thorzain and Naniwa and so on headed over then maybe we can come to some sort of definitive statement one way or the other. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On July 18 2011 18:06 BackSideAttack wrote: If the true purpose of this tournament was to grow the Sea Server scene...then why would you allow T-gun, who's going through Koreans training, to play. I understand that your trying to grow the scene, but inviting a sea player with Korean training is no diff than allowing major to play. In the end your exposing the scene to competition that you were trying to avoid in the first place. It's also important to show that working hard to improve your play as an SEA player pays off. | ||
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:57 Sated wrote: Meh. Major was told he couldn't participate, he shouldn't have done this, it is pretty obvious that this was a bad thing to do etc. I don't think that's the important issue, though. What I think of reading some of the replies to this thread is this: People complained when Catz suggested that some tournaments shouldn't allow Koreans to participate so the Foreigner scene can grow. The condemnation was fairly outspoken and people thought it was stupid that Koreans shouldn't be allowed in Foreign tournaments. One of the main reasons given was that the Foreigner scene wouldn't grow as quickly as Foreigners wouldn't need to compete against the best for money, they'd only have to compete with each other. On the flip-side, people are now arguing that this SEA-restricted tournament is going to help the SEA scene grow by allowing the SEA players to make some money playing the game, giving them more time to train so that they'll be able to take on players from other regions/Korea. Erm, pick one guys. Please? the main difference is that the SEA region, at this time, doesn't have as many tournaments that NA or EU have, not even close. The consequences of this is that there is no incentive for SEA players to actually go pro. And if there is a tourney, foreign pros will just walk in and take any any incentive for local peeps to play at all, since the foreign pros had lots of local tourneys to get good. Think of SEA as a sort of a early E-Sports area. There isn't a lot of pros and a small scene in general. Catz's argument is largely moot, because there is just an abundance of local/national tournaments that help NA/EU players get good and eventually have a chance against Koreans. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
We should just ignore him forever, like we've done with CombatEX. I don't care if Artosis is in love with him for some reason, he's just unfit to represent anything, let alone professionalism. And this is just one of a series of events that confirm this statement. I don't even understand why Dan would scar his image by having such immature twat in his team wtf. Even Idra the rager is professional when the time asks for it, come on... | ||
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