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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.

Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
July 18 2011 08:49 GMT
#621
*goes to sign myself out of the major fanclub*

Oh wait, I was never a fan. Looks like I never will be either.
aFF.TEEN
Profile Joined May 2011
France99 Posts
July 18 2011 08:50 GMT
#622
On July 18 2011 17:48 Pumaska wrote:
It's things like this that makes it hard to be fan of Major :S

What does behaviour have to do with play?
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 18 2011 08:50 GMT
#623
On July 18 2011 17:48 Pumaska wrote:
It's things like this that makes it hard to be fan of Major :S


I think most fans of major already accepted this side of him. The "dirty fighter" if you will.
/commercial
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
July 18 2011 08:50 GMT
#624
On July 18 2011 17:29 ke_ivan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:24 TT1 wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:23 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:23 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 14:18 SenSai wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:24 Maliris wrote:
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.


You sir are an idiot.

On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.


Once again you prove to me you are an idiot.

Strong arguments there sir, truly you have bested me

SEA players are obviously too lazy to train to be as good as Koreans, just like everywhere else in the world. Korean players (except for high placing players in GSL, like top4 Code S regularly) are seriously underpaid compared to foreigners. Plenty of "top" foreigners would get completely steamrolled by Code B players


No, he's right. You are an idiot.

The truth hurts eh champ?


On July 18 2011 17:23 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 14:18 SenSai wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:24 Maliris wrote:
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.


You sir are an idiot.

On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.


Once again you prove to me you are an idiot.

Strong arguments there sir, truly you have bested me

SEA players are obviously too lazy to train to be as good as Koreans, just like everywhere else in the world. Korean players (except for high placing players in GSL, like top4 Code S regularly) are seriously underpaid compared to foreigners. Plenty of "top" foreigners would get completely steamrolled by Code B players


No, he's right. You are an idiot.


double idiot tagged


triple idiot tagged


User was warned for this post


I just want to say... I blame you TT1... lulz.

Also sixjax will do what they want and everyone else will do what they want. If they experience a drop in sales and an increase in traffic, they will know it's all sixjaxMajOr's fault. If that doesn't happen then cool too, he'll just never win any prizes from SEA. Sixjax doesn't fund this pro team for nuthin, you know. Sixjax does this to increase awareness of their brand. Sure, they have more brand awareness now, but they have created negative brand equity for themselves. I'm sure they'll give MajOr a big pat on the back for themselves. lulz.
Deaths Fang
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia3 Posts
July 18 2011 08:51 GMT
#625
The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded.
aFF.TEEN
Profile Joined May 2011
France99 Posts
July 18 2011 08:54 GMT
#626
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote:
The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded.

Not implying I disagree, but it's pretty silly and immature to insult people just because they disagree with your opinion.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 18 2011 08:54 GMT
#627
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote:
The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded.


Ouch, try not to ad hominem attack. It does not really fly here.

Good point though. Regional tournaments are a part of any sport.

Just look at......any sport.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
July 18 2011 08:57 GMT
#628
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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
July 18 2011 08:57 GMT
#629
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote:
If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

I'm sorry, but when did you start holding our hands? I wasn't aware of your contribution.
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 18 2011 08:57 GMT
#630
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote:
The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded.

your wording is kinda trixy because you can draw a lot of parallels from what you say to lets say.. the TL Open which has now become a great place for korean players to win some cash. i want to make the distinction that they are different situations and the TL Open's purpose is not necessarily primarily just for the NA scene, but i want to clarify that i think the issue is simply:

a rule was broken by a pro in a disrespectful way.

i think discussion about nationality, scene development, and the like are really secondary in importance in this thread.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 18 2011 08:59 GMT
#631
On July 18 2011 17:57 Sated wrote:
Meh. Major was told he couldn't participate, he shouldn't have done this, it is pretty obvious that this was a bad thing to do etc. I don't think that's the important issue, though. What I think of reading some of the replies to this thread is this:

People complained when Catz suggested that some tournaments shouldn't allow Koreans to participate so the Foreigner scene can grow. The condemnation was fairly outspoken and people thought it was stupid that Koreans shouldn't be allowed in Foreign tournaments. One of the main reasons given was that the Foreigner scene wouldn't grow as quickly as Foreigners wouldn't need to compete against the best for money, they'd only have to compete with each other.

On the flip-side, people are now arguing that this SEA-restricted tournament is going to help the SEA scene grow by allowing the SEA players to make some money playing the game, giving them more time to train so that they'll be able to take on players from other regions/Korea.

Erm, pick one guys. Please?


The foreign scene at large is developed enough to get rid of the training wheels now. As for each individual region to stack up against the koreans, that is a bit of a tall tall order.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
July 18 2011 09:05 GMT
#632
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 18 2011 09:05 GMT
#633
On July 18 2011 17:57 JiYan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:51 Deaths Fang wrote:
The SEA scene has never been big. The only way to encourage SEA players to strive to become better and to be able to compete at the level of the highest tournaments is by holding these smaller ones. Also, the logic of whoever thinks any foreign pro's should play in them is seriously retarded.

your wording is kinda trixy because you can draw a lot of parallels from what you say to lets say.. the TL Open which has now become a great place for korean players to win some cash. i want to make the distinction that they are different situations and the TL Open's purpose is not necessarily primarily just for the NA scene, but i want to clarify that i think the issue is simply:

a rule was broken by a pro in a disrespectful way.

i think discussion about nationality, scene development, and the like are really secondary in importance in this thread.


Exactly, the rule was broken, the rest is completely irrelevant and shouldn't be even mentioned once in this thread.
Stork[gm]
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
July 18 2011 09:06 GMT
#634
If the true purpose of this tournament was to grow the Sea Server scene...then why would you allow T-gun, who's going through Koreans training, to play. I understand that your trying to grow the scene, but inviting a sea player with Korean training is no diff than allowing major to play. In the end your exposing the scene to competition that you were trying to avoid in the first place.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
July 18 2011 09:07 GMT
#635
I'm very disappointed by the actions of sixjaxMajor. I hope that Artosis mentions about this issue sometime soon.
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Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
July 18 2011 09:07 GMT
#636
I think its fairly bad that a pro player on a pro team actually did this. It reflects badly on him and SixJax. Apreciate that Major wants to enter tournaments and win them, but skipping one because the tournament admin said no to him wouldnt have been the end of the world.

Just displays poor judgement and a lack of maturity on his part.

I really want to root for this kid, he's a fantastic talent and he has so much potential. But silly little things like that always bring him down.

Its a pity.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 18 2011 09:09 GMT
#637
On July 18 2011 18:05 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
The foreign scene at large is developed enough to get rid of the training wheels now. As for each individual region to stack up against the koreans, that is a bit of a tall tall order.

I think Korean dominance in recent Foreign tournaments and FXO's run in the GSTL shows that the Foreign scene, as a whole, isn't really ready to do any such thing.


I wouldn't use FXO as an example as we all knew what was going to happen. With people like Thorzain and Naniwa and so on headed over then maybe we can come to some sort of definitive statement one way or the other.
twitch.tv/medrea
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 18 2011 09:09 GMT
#638
On July 18 2011 18:06 BackSideAttack wrote:
If the true purpose of this tournament was to grow the Sea Server scene...then why would you allow T-gun, who's going through Koreans training, to play. I understand that your trying to grow the scene, but inviting a sea player with Korean training is no diff than allowing major to play. In the end your exposing the scene to competition that you were trying to avoid in the first place.


It's also important to show that working hard to improve your play as an SEA player pays off.
/commercial
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 18 2011 09:09 GMT
#639
On July 18 2011 17:57 Sated wrote:
Meh. Major was told he couldn't participate, he shouldn't have done this, it is pretty obvious that this was a bad thing to do etc. I don't think that's the important issue, though. What I think of reading some of the replies to this thread is this:

People complained when Catz suggested that some tournaments shouldn't allow Koreans to participate so the Foreigner scene can grow. The condemnation was fairly outspoken and people thought it was stupid that Koreans shouldn't be allowed in Foreign tournaments. One of the main reasons given was that the Foreigner scene wouldn't grow as quickly as Foreigners wouldn't need to compete against the best for money, they'd only have to compete with each other.

On the flip-side, people are now arguing that this SEA-restricted tournament is going to help the SEA scene grow by allowing the SEA players to make some money playing the game, giving them more time to train so that they'll be able to take on players from other regions/Korea.

Erm, pick one guys. Please?


the main difference is that the SEA region, at this time, doesn't have as many tournaments that NA or EU have, not even close. The consequences of this is that there is no incentive for SEA players to actually go pro. And if there is a tourney, foreign pros will just walk in and take any any incentive for local peeps to play at all, since the foreign pros had lots of local tourneys to get good. Think of SEA as a sort of a early E-Sports area. There isn't a lot of pros and a small scene in general. Catz's argument is largely moot, because there is just an abundance of local/national tournaments that help NA/EU players get good and eventually have a chance against Koreans.

PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 09:12:21
July 18 2011 09:10 GMT
#640
Terran the manchild strikes again, it seems.

We should just ignore him forever, like we've done with CombatEX.

I don't care if Artosis is in love with him for some reason, he's just unfit to represent anything, let alone professionalism. And this is just one of a series of events that confirm this statement.

I don't even understand why Dan would scar his image by having such immature twat in his team wtf.

Even Idra the rager is professional when the time asks for it, come on...
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