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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.

Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please.
Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
July 18 2011 08:27 GMT
#601
oh come on! really man?! this is just lame on his part...I was hoping major would mature and really live up to the potential we have seen in him since TSL 2...oh well perhaps next year
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
July 18 2011 08:28 GMT
#602
who cares?

User was warned for this post
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
July 18 2011 08:29 GMT
#603
On July 18 2011 17:24 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:23 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:23 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 14:18 SenSai wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:24 Maliris wrote:
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.


You sir are an idiot.

On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.


Once again you prove to me you are an idiot.

Strong arguments there sir, truly you have bested me

SEA players are obviously too lazy to train to be as good as Koreans, just like everywhere else in the world. Korean players (except for high placing players in GSL, like top4 Code S regularly) are seriously underpaid compared to foreigners. Plenty of "top" foreigners would get completely steamrolled by Code B players


No, he's right. You are an idiot.

The truth hurts eh champ?


Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:23 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 14:18 SenSai wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:24 Maliris wrote:
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.


You sir are an idiot.

On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.


Once again you prove to me you are an idiot.

Strong arguments there sir, truly you have bested me

SEA players are obviously too lazy to train to be as good as Koreans, just like everywhere else in the world. Korean players (except for high placing players in GSL, like top4 Code S regularly) are seriously underpaid compared to foreigners. Plenty of "top" foreigners would get completely steamrolled by Code B players


No, he's right. You are an idiot.


double idiot tagged


triple idiot tagged


User was warned for this post
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
July 18 2011 08:30 GMT
#604
On July 18 2011 17:27 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:25 ke_ivan wrote:
On July 18 2011 16:54 TT1 wrote:
On July 18 2011 16:53 MayorITC wrote:
On July 18 2011 16:26 TT1 wrote:
tl should setup a big brother service where they send an admin over to someones house to pat'em on the back after they make a good post

i could so see hb being like "Good Job man.. that was a well though out and executed response


I think one pathetic excuse for a progamer is enough for this thread. And Juan already took that spot so you can leave now.

Maybe in the grand scheme of things, this incident is not the Watergate for e-sports, but for the people who put their time/money as a player/host for this event, it's a huge deal to have someone blatantly disrespect the admins and intentionally cheat in a tourney designed to encourage local e-sports.


hey words hurt


I am trying very hard not to troll.

Aw man, I just failed.

Stop... hurting... me... troll... *bish bish*

Oh btw, TT1 that was a well though out and executed response. *pat on the back*


if u were a masterful troll u would have just went for a short and sweet response such as triple idiot tagged


Hey I gotta learn from some one...
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
July 18 2011 08:30 GMT
#605
I hope other tournaments consider stuff like this when they invite people, because lying to the admins is pretty bad. They have hard enough job to keep everything running and when they can't actually trust the players and have to double check everything they say, it becomes even worse.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
aFF.TEEN
Profile Joined May 2011
France99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 08:31:35
July 18 2011 08:31 GMT
#606
On July 18 2011 17:24 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:15 aFF.TEEN wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:13 JiYan wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:09 PhysicsCat wrote:
I didn't like Major before this event, but now I am a fan. Restricting tournaments based on nationalities is pretty hardcore racist, and I will not welcome it in my sc2 scene.

its not hardcore racist. at the very most its mildly racist. spanish basketball leagues restrict teams to having 2 foreigners only in order to maintain development of spanish players. the same is true for chinese basketball and taiwanese basketball. only americans can play in WCG USA, and only canadians can play in WCG Canada. all of these things are meant to nurture esports development in each specific country and if you read what the organizer is saying or even if you by chance have seen catz' video on his take on the concept you wouldnt be so quick to call something hardcore racist. in fact, i can think in my head of certain things in the history books that i would call hardcore racist and to compare this to those things, you should be quite ashamed of yourself for calling them the same class of racism.

I couldnt agree more. It's not racism, it's just favourism/discrimination based on nationality/citizenship.


People have the wrong understanding of the term "discrimination". It means to distinguish between people based on characteristics that are not directly relevant. In a cup that has as goal to encourage SEA talent, the nationality of the participant is very relevant, so restricting it to SEA nationalities is everything but discrimination.

Discrimination would be if everyone of age 23 would've been prevented from participating in this cup. (for example)

Allow myself to enlighten you. Discrimination doesnt necessarily imply you distinguish based on irrevalent characteristics. Discrimination has a bad reputation, but this is abuse of an etymologically neutral word.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 18 2011 08:31 GMT
#607
On July 18 2011 17:25 x6Paramore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:23 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:23 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 14:18 SenSai wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:24 Maliris wrote:
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.


You sir are an idiot.

On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.


Once again you prove to me you are an idiot.

Strong arguments there sir, truly you have bested me

SEA players are obviously too lazy to train to be as good as Koreans, just like everywhere else in the world. Korean players (except for high placing players in GSL, like top4 Code S regularly) are seriously underpaid compared to foreigners. Plenty of "top" foreigners would get completely steamrolled by Code B players


No, he's right. You are an idiot.

The truth hurts eh champ?


"This event was specifically designed to encourage the SEA community to step up their game and embrace the global success of StarCraft 2 competitive eSports. Consider it an investment on my part. I inject money into the community, and the community produces higher quality gamers. Eventually these players will build the skills and confidence they need to represent SEA on the world stage (see: mOOnGLaDe). "


Guess you didn't even read OP... idiot...

If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

That wasn't too hard to comprehend now was it hmm?
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Keype
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden455 Posts
July 18 2011 08:32 GMT
#608
On July 18 2011 16:40 Medrea wrote:
I dunno to me it seems pretty obvious he didn't or still doesn't know what citizenship means and he is just trying to pass it off to look cool.

Well to me it looked like he was playing dumb, how ever you might be right, as many people has stated before the rules were unclear about that part, but still it is not the first time we see this kind of behaivor from Major.
Tornado Terran Fighting!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 18 2011 08:33 GMT
#609
[image loading]

User was warned for this post
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 18 2011 08:33 GMT
#610
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:25 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:23 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:23 x6Paramore wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:21 Maliris wrote:
On July 18 2011 14:18 SenSai wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:24 Maliris wrote:
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.


You sir are an idiot.

On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.


Once again you prove to me you are an idiot.

Strong arguments there sir, truly you have bested me

SEA players are obviously too lazy to train to be as good as Koreans, just like everywhere else in the world. Korean players (except for high placing players in GSL, like top4 Code S regularly) are seriously underpaid compared to foreigners. Plenty of "top" foreigners would get completely steamrolled by Code B players


No, he's right. You are an idiot.

The truth hurts eh champ?


"This event was specifically designed to encourage the SEA community to step up their game and embrace the global success of StarCraft 2 competitive eSports. Consider it an investment on my part. I inject money into the community, and the community produces higher quality gamers. Eventually these players will build the skills and confidence they need to represent SEA on the world stage (see: mOOnGLaDe). "


Guess you didn't even read OP... idiot...

If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

That wasn't too hard to comprehend now was it hmm?


It's to entice SEA people to train harder and get better, that isn't hard to understand. EVENTUALLY, they will get good enough to really compete on the world scene, but not right now.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 18 2011 08:37 GMT
#611
On July 18 2011 17:00 sixjaxMajor wrote:
hi


Really?

You just be a smart ass and don't apologize?

You BM/Stream cheat against Sheth and now lie your way into a only sea tourney?

Well from all us Aussies, you sir are a total fuckwit
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 18 2011 08:38 GMT
#612
On July 18 2011 17:16 travis wrote:
Uh well of course it's not like he killed somebody but it's pretty damn bad for a professional player to be cheating.


It's bad for sure, but there are worse forms of cheating. Should he be banned from that tournament? Sure. Should he be banned from other events? That's up to the community.
/commercial
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 18 2011 08:39 GMT
#613
On July 18 2011 17:28 RmoteCntrld wrote:
who cares?

the 30 pages before you. get out if you dont care.
[Erasmus]
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia286 Posts
July 18 2011 08:40 GMT
#614
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote:
If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

That wasn't too hard to comprehend now was it hmm?

Which is why gts (ST_KingKong) competed in and won the SC2SE AMasters cup a few weeks back, and played a great series against moonglade which he eventually won 3-2. He also then came back the next week for our community open, and lost to a SEA player...

Competing with Koreans is a fantastic way to improve, as you so intelligently pointed out (also see ST_Ace coming out for the $10,000 NRG LAN in Sydney earlier this year). But it is also relevant to ensure that all the money doesn't just flood overseas, which will stop us from developing good players like moonglade. There are not many truly great players on SEA yet, but there are a lot with potential, and this tournament is to support them by offering prize money to the best local players. They have plenty of other tournaments (read: all of them) where they get to compete with koreans.

You clearly don't know anything about the SEA SC2 scene. You need a good mix of international competition, and enough incentive/support to get locals to 'go pro' in order to actually succeed.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 08:47:46
July 18 2011 08:43 GMT
#615
On July 18 2011 17:40 [Erasmus] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote:
If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

That wasn't too hard to comprehend now was it hmm?

Which is why gts (ST_KingKong) competed in and won the SC2SE AMasters cup a few weeks back, and played a great series against moonglade which he eventually won 3-2. He also then came back the next week for our community open, and lost to a SEA player...

Competing with Koreans is a fantastic way to improve, as you so intelligently pointed out (also see ST_Ace coming out for the $10,000 NRG LAN in Sydney earlier this year). But it is also relevant to ensure that all the money doesn't just flood overseas, which will stop us from developing good players like moonglade. There are not many truly great players on SEA yet, but there are a lot with potential, and this tournament is to support them by offering prize money to the best local players. They have plenty of other tournaments (read: all of them) where they get to compete with koreans.

You clearly don't know anything about the SEA SC2 scene. You need a good mix of international competition, and enough incentive/support to get locals to 'go pro' in order to actually succeed.


Agreed. The point is to encourage SEA players to prepare for and play in tournaments, and there's less incentive to do so if the top dogs from other servers are playing and will probably take the top prizes no matter what you do.
/commercial
oldahe
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria534 Posts
July 18 2011 08:44 GMT
#616
On July 18 2011 17:27 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:25 ke_ivan wrote:
On July 18 2011 16:54 TT1 wrote:
On July 18 2011 16:53 MayorITC wrote:
On July 18 2011 16:26 TT1 wrote:
tl should setup a big brother service where they send an admin over to someones house to pat'em on the back after they make a good post

i could so see hb being like "Good Job man.. that was a well though out and executed response


I think one pathetic excuse for a progamer is enough for this thread. And Juan already took that spot so you can leave now.

Maybe in the grand scheme of things, this incident is not the Watergate for e-sports, but for the people who put their time/money as a player/host for this event, it's a huge deal to have someone blatantly disrespect the admins and intentionally cheat in a tourney designed to encourage local e-sports.


hey words hurt


I am trying very hard not to troll.

Aw man, I just failed.

Stop... hurting... me... troll... *bish bish*

Oh btw, TT1 that was a well though out and executed response. *pat on the back*


if u were a masterful troll u would have just went for a short and sweet response such as triple idiot tagged


Ei dúst nakhor hendúne ba púst


User was temp banned for this post.
[Erasmus]
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia286 Posts
July 18 2011 08:46 GMT
#617
On July 18 2011 17:43 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:40 [Erasmus] wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote:
If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

That wasn't too hard to comprehend now was it hmm?

Which is why gts (ST_KingKong) competed in and won the SC2SE AMasters cup a few weeks back, and played a great series against moonglade which he eventually won 3-2. He also then came back the next week for our community open, and lost to a SEA player...

Competing with Koreans is a fantastic way to improve, as you so intelligently pointed out (also see ST_Ace coming out for the $10,000 NRG LAN in Sydney earlier this year). But it is also relevant to ensure that all the money doesn't just flood overseas, which will stop us from developing good players like moonglade. There are not many truly great players on SEA yet, but there are a lot with potential, and this tournament is to support them by offering prize money to the best local players. They have plenty of other tournaments (read: all of them) where they get to compete with koreans.

You clearly don't know anything about the SEA SC2 scene. You need a good mix of international competition, and enough incentive/support to get locals to 'go pro' in order to actually succeed.


That's not the point of the tournament as I see it. The point is to encourage SEA players to prepare for and play in tournaments, and there's less incentive to do so if the top dogs from other servers are playing and will probably take the top prizes no matter what you do.


Isn't that basically what I said... that some tournaments with stronger competition is good practice against the koreans, but you also need some tournaments to provide incentive for SEA players to win and take the prizes, which should help them support themselves spending time getting better at SC2?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 18 2011 08:47 GMT
#618
On July 18 2011 17:37 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:00 sixjaxMajor wrote:
hi


Really?

You just be a smart ass and don't apologize?

You BM/Stream cheat against Sheth and now lie your way into a only sea tourney?

Well from all us Aussies, you sir are a total fuckwit


Yeah what was up with that? He popped in so i was like oh ok something constructive is coming.

Then nothing.

I cant find what page its on, maybe he got temp banned for giving a one word reply. I mean its not like saying hi in a thread is very constructive.
twitch.tv/medrea
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 18 2011 08:48 GMT
#619
On July 18 2011 17:46 [Erasmus] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 17:43 Novalisk wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:40 [Erasmus] wrote:
On July 18 2011 17:31 Maliris wrote:
If SEA players don't intend to compete with people who are actually good, like Koreans who are invited to every major tournament nowadays, then why the hell would $500 tournaments encourage them to actually train? Are we just gonna hold their hand forever?

That wasn't too hard to comprehend now was it hmm?

Which is why gts (ST_KingKong) competed in and won the SC2SE AMasters cup a few weeks back, and played a great series against moonglade which he eventually won 3-2. He also then came back the next week for our community open, and lost to a SEA player...

Competing with Koreans is a fantastic way to improve, as you so intelligently pointed out (also see ST_Ace coming out for the $10,000 NRG LAN in Sydney earlier this year). But it is also relevant to ensure that all the money doesn't just flood overseas, which will stop us from developing good players like moonglade. There are not many truly great players on SEA yet, but there are a lot with potential, and this tournament is to support them by offering prize money to the best local players. They have plenty of other tournaments (read: all of them) where they get to compete with koreans.

You clearly don't know anything about the SEA SC2 scene. You need a good mix of international competition, and enough incentive/support to get locals to 'go pro' in order to actually succeed.


That's not the point of the tournament as I see it. The point is to encourage SEA players to prepare for and play in tournaments, and there's less incentive to do so if the top dogs from other servers are playing and will probably take the top prizes no matter what you do.


Isn't that basically what I said... that some tournaments with stronger competition is good practice against the koreans, but you also need some tournaments to provide incentive for SEA players to win and take the prizes, which should help them support themselves spending time getting better at SC2?


Yeah it is, edited my post.
/commercial
Pumaska
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland71 Posts
July 18 2011 08:48 GMT
#620
It's things like this that makes it hard to be fan of Major :S
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