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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On July 14 2011 00:48 ArcticVanguard wrote: What happens to people who use steam? Since it has an overlay, I mean. That has me rather worried since I run SC2 from steam. I just deleted my SC2 shortcut from Steam. Better safe than sorry. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On July 14 2011 00:49 ilovelings wrote: Are these people serious? The main reason internet developed the way it did, it's because the freedom it provides. He was not cheating so stfu. Also TOS mean nothing hahaha. maybe in court, are you going to sue them for banning you?  | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
 There might be some softwares that triggers a ban from Blizzard, but shouldn't you just call blizzard and ask them what made them ban you instead of guessing? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Its interesting though, would be interesting how they could check for overlays, would be lovely to see everyone using overlays banned all around the mmo genre, though it would get pretty lonley lol. Wonder if they unban people again, i mean teamspeak is generally accepted. Or in a few days everyone streaming will be banned too :3. My guess is on an automated banning mistake, they will unban people but tell them that overlays are no go from now on. Its a nice pr now, hey we can detect overlays legally now fear us 3rd party tool users. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On July 14 2011 01:23 Jiddra wrote: If Blizzard is letting Steam sell you SC2, I have a really hard time beliving they will ban you for it! Calm down people! There might be some softwares that triggers a ban from Blizzard, but shouldn't you just call blizzard and ask them what made them ban you instead of guessing? steam isnt selling the game..btu with any game u can add it to ur list of games in steam and u can launch and use the overlay in any game. And i dont see the big deal. You knew 3rd party programs were prohibited so dont use them? When i use to raid back in vanilla wow...i could pick out someones voice out of a possible of 50 people(for the most part) so i dont know why people feel the need to have a overlay especially for a mostly small group game. | ||
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NoobStyles
Australia257 Posts
On July 14 2011 01:27 Scipaeus121212 wrote: Maybe a stupid question, but what are the "overlays"? Im not really sure what programs are dangerous and what aren't. an overlay is just an image ontop of another eg Day9 has the day9 logo covering replay lengths when hes doing the daily. the image covering the replay length is an overlay | ||
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sTsCompleted
United States380 Posts
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latan
740 Posts
"The Great Ban Wave of 2011" | ||
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TheResidentEvil
United States991 Posts
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VassiliZaytsev
Canada45 Posts
Im all for catching map/drop/whatever hackers but the whole innocent until proven guilty mentality exists for a reason to protect people who just harmlessly want to see who is talking in their VOIP channel. As many people have pointed out, steam, vent, teamspeak, mumble all have overlays of some kind, not to mention the overlays that casters use. Anyways, obviously no one but blizzard has the full story here but it seems a little weird to me at this point. My $0.02. | ||
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latan
740 Posts
On July 14 2011 00:56 denzelz wrote: I don't see how people are not okay with this, but okay with airport security. This move probably banned a bunch of maphacks in Starcraft 2, while banning a few "innocent" people (who claim they were only using RaidCall). Airport security routinely harass millions of people every day in hopes of finding ONE OR TWO terrorists a day. People on TL are truly ridiculous, arguing for "freedom" over this, while ignoring everything else going on in the world. There has been a lot of outrage and controversy at recent airport security measures, not sure what world you live in. | ||
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Oune
Switzerland35 Posts
But it's already 7 pm here in Europe, so I don't know if I'll have an answer today. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Estonian Lawyers ahoy! I love it when people do this shit. Well everyone should sue {insert referenced company} because I don't like what they just did. Let's start by signing an internet petition! Then if all that fails we'll just get anonymous to attack them! Seriously side, how does raidcall differ in functionality from Skype? I'm unfamiliar with the program and don't see how you'd be seriously limited by using a program that doesn't have an overlay. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On July 14 2011 01:40 VassiliZaytsev wrote: Forgive me if I'm incorrect but everyone saying stuff like "you shouldnt have used a third party program its your own fault", as far as I know, this overlay and countless like it do not receive any information from the game and do not modify anything in the game, and there is a very clear difference between a maphack and a tool giving you information about things unrelated to your starcraft 2 game. Im all for catching map/drop/whatever hackers but the whole innocent until proven guilty mentality exists for a reason to protect people who just harmlessly want to see who is talking in their VOIP channel. As many people have pointed out, steam, vent, teamspeak, mumble all have overlays of some kind, not to mention the overlays that casters use. Anyways, obviously no one but blizzard has the full story here but it seems a little weird to me at this point. My $0.02. It depends on the overlay. Some overlays mess with the game by becoming a part of the hardware accelerated game rendering. Also, this isn't the first time overlays have caused false positives. It's third party and can interfere with the game. It's pretty clear cut. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
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Johnthebold2
United States16 Posts
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SpectraL
Norway31 Posts
On July 14 2011 01:46 Piski wrote: I didn't read the all the whine in this thread but I just wanted to ask, what makes you think it was raidcall? Maybe it's a mistake or about something else. Because most of the people who got banned were using raidcall, not a very difficult problem to solve. | ||
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Eleaven
772 Posts
Since when was it okay for the innocent to be punished for the acts of the few who decide to fuck things up :S. For all the "well if it gets rid of maphackers its okay" group.. herpa, it doesnt work that way. I have a guy on my friend list who i've reported many times, and he openly admits in chat that he maphacks, logged in this evening - not banned. Wish i had more than an anecdote for that actually.. but it's pretty astounding that everyone is saying "yah its okay to ban people for no reason" Especially when blizzard charge $60 a pop for this game, and being banned instantly fucks over any reputation you'd have held within the game | ||
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