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NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
July 13 2011 15:52 GMT
#21
feeling very happy that i have the overlay dissabled in mumble ATM. it really sucks that blizz is banning people for using Raidcall though.

On July 14 2011 00:41 denzelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 00:22 svefnleysi wrote:
While it sucks that people get banned for using stuff like Raidcall, I think Blizzard has to draw the line somewhere.

Something that creates an overlay can be abused, and while it sometimes isn't, having to evaluate each case would make catching people who do abuse it infinitely harder for Blizzard.

I just wish Blizzard would communicate better what is and isn't allowed and then enforce it.

Like the MPQ editing. It's against the TOS but Blizzard doesn't seem to care. I'd prefer it if Blizzard acted on it, because people will keep stretching the limits of what they can and can't do.


I don't see how people are confused as to what is allowed on Battle.net. Blizzard clearly states that ANYTHING that modifies the game is illegal and is bannable. Just because they haven't banned you for something you did does not make it okay.

I just don't understand how people want certain things allowed, but still want hackers banned. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. There will always be false-positives and I'm absolutely okay with it.



WFT you comppletely ok with people being baned for not hacking?
.
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
July 13 2011 15:53 GMT
#22
On July 14 2011 00:49 ilovelings wrote:
Are these people serious? The main reason internet developed the way it did, it's because the freedom it provides. He was not cheating so stfu.

Also TOS mean nothing hahaha.


Sure, go ahead and spend money suing Blizzard over a $50 game. I will be eagerly waiting the results in two years.
OzkanTheFlip
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
July 13 2011 15:55 GMT
#23
what is raidcall?
Make Moar Roaches
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
July 13 2011 15:56 GMT
#24
On July 14 2011 00:52 noob styles wrote:
feeling very happy that i have the overlay dissabled in mumble ATM. it really sucks that blizz is banning people for using Raidcall though.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 00:41 denzelz wrote:
On July 14 2011 00:22 svefnleysi wrote:
While it sucks that people get banned for using stuff like Raidcall, I think Blizzard has to draw the line somewhere.

Something that creates an overlay can be abused, and while it sometimes isn't, having to evaluate each case would make catching people who do abuse it infinitely harder for Blizzard.

I just wish Blizzard would communicate better what is and isn't allowed and then enforce it.

Like the MPQ editing. It's against the TOS but Blizzard doesn't seem to care. I'd prefer it if Blizzard acted on it, because people will keep stretching the limits of what they can and can't do.


I don't see how people are confused as to what is allowed on Battle.net. Blizzard clearly states that ANYTHING that modifies the game is illegal and is bannable. Just because they haven't banned you for something you did does not make it okay.

I just don't understand how people want certain things allowed, but still want hackers banned. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. There will always be false-positives and I'm absolutely okay with it.



WFT you comppletely ok with people being baned for not hacking?
.


I don't see how people are not okay with this, but okay with airport security. This move probably banned a bunch of maphacks in Starcraft 2, while banning a few "innocent" people (who claim they were only using RaidCall). Airport security routinely harass millions of people every day in hopes of finding ONE OR TWO terrorists a day. People on TL are truly ridiculous, arguing for "freedom" over this, while ignoring everything else going on in the world.
Oune
Profile Joined November 2010
Switzerland35 Posts
July 13 2011 15:56 GMT
#25
Raidcall is sponsoring Fnatic.

What the hell is going on with Blizzard ?

Ps : My 2 accounts get banned too ...
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
July 13 2011 15:59 GMT
#26
So if you run SC2 through Steam or Xfire could you get banned?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
July 13 2011 16:00 GMT
#27
On July 14 2011 00:56 Oune wrote:
Raidcall is sponsoring Fnatic.

What the hell is going on with Blizzard ?

Ps : My 2 accounts get banned too ...


so this is happening in other servers too? omg.... i hope blizz post something about it in the oficcial forums
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
CravenRaven
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia114 Posts
July 13 2011 16:01 GMT
#28
Airport security routinely harass millions of people every day in hopes of finding ONE OR TWO terrorists a day. People on TL are truly ridiculous, arguing for "freedom" over this, while ignoring everything else going on in the world.


You heard it here first folks, catching terrorists and map hackers is of equal importance.
Oune
Profile Joined November 2010
Switzerland35 Posts
July 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#29
I'll again annoy the people of the customer service with that.

That's not normal that Blizzard banns for something like this ...
holycrapitsTony
Profile Joined October 2010
United States330 Posts
July 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#30
I run my Starcraft II through Steam and use the overlay fairly often. No ban.
NYE: when the match loading screen comes up "zvz" it's like finding out you have hiv
NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 16:09:57
July 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#31
On July 14 2011 00:56 denzelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 00:52 noob styles wrote:
feeling very happy that i have the overlay dissabled in mumble ATM. it really sucks that blizz is banning people for using Raidcall though.

On July 14 2011 00:41 denzelz wrote:
On July 14 2011 00:22 svefnleysi wrote:
While it sucks that people get banned for using stuff like Raidcall, I think Blizzard has to draw the line somewhere.

Something that creates an overlay can be abused, and while it sometimes isn't, having to evaluate each case would make catching people who do abuse it infinitely harder for Blizzard.

I just wish Blizzard would communicate better what is and isn't allowed and then enforce it.

Like the MPQ editing. It's against the TOS but Blizzard doesn't seem to care. I'd prefer it if Blizzard acted on it, because people will keep stretching the limits of what they can and can't do.


I don't see how people are confused as to what is allowed on Battle.net. Blizzard clearly states that ANYTHING that modifies the game is illegal and is bannable. Just because they haven't banned you for something you did does not make it okay.

I just don't understand how people want certain things allowed, but still want hackers banned. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. There will always be false-positives and I'm absolutely okay with it.



WFT you comppletely ok with people being baned for not hacking?
.


I don't see how people are not okay with this, but okay with airport security. This move probably banned a bunch of maphacks in Starcraft 2, while banning a few "innocent" people (who claim they were only using RaidCall). Airport security routinely harass millions of people every day in hopes of finding ONE OR TWO terrorists a day. People on TL are truly ridiculous, arguing for "freedom" over this, while ignoring everything else going on in the world.



Yes let’s give up all our freedom. All hail dictator Blizzard! They’ll protect up from all the hackers, and anyone that gets caught in the cross fire can shut the fuck up!


EDIT: Also basically ever caster used for sort of overlay program to cover the replay length. I wonder if they'll be any 'high profile' banings?


EDIT2: first sentence was unnecessary and over the top
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
July 13 2011 16:05 GMT
#32
I doubt it's raidcall or the overlay thing, as I just asked a few in my clan and they had them on.
Leenock the Punisher
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
July 13 2011 16:07 GMT
#33
You get banned for using a 3rd party program even though when you agree to the blizzard EULA it says not to use 3rd party program and you complain about it? Isn't this your own dumb fault?
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Oune
Profile Joined November 2010
Switzerland35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 16:09:03
July 13 2011 16:08 GMT
#34
Not really when the program comes from a company who sponsors a professional SC2 team ...

We need a statement from Blizzard and/or RaidCall.
Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
July 13 2011 16:09 GMT
#35
I bet these " i have no clue why my account just got banned topics" will be popping up everywhere in the next few days.
Liquid'HuK "That's Halo, don't worry"
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
July 13 2011 16:15 GMT
#36
Ouch, that sucks. My guess is that it's just a false-positive, and not that Blizzard decided to "draw the line" and include harmless overlays like these. I'd e-mail them and tell them what happened, maybe they'll do something about it.
Blah.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 16:19:16
July 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#37
Obviously the problem is with Raidcall's overlay giving off false positives. If you run overlays or anything that interferes with the game in any way you run the risk of this happening, which you should've been aware of from the start. I've always disabled overlays for this reason. They're not very useful anyway.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Johnthebold2
Profile Joined July 2011
United States16 Posts
July 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#38
Ive tried emailing them and getting them to do something but say they are going to uphold the ban.
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
July 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#39
Is it not pretty obvious that you should not be using overlays tho? I mean an overlay could be something innocent, like a playlist for Mp3's, or it could be a cheat such as a maphack or production tab.

If i was designing Warden i would make it react to any type of overlay over the game.

And as mentioned before the same issue has popped up with overlays in the past with other cheatdetectors, hence why i never use them while gaming.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
Kevincible
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada70 Posts
July 13 2011 16:18 GMT
#40
Omg.. I my friend and I also got banned. They better unban all of us.
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