EPTHuK Wins Attributed to Foreigners or Korea?
HuK Wins Attributed to HuK.
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On July 02 2011 08:41 alepov wrote: The western world isn't keeping up, that's the thing. Western players can keep up, if they train in the Korean world. This. Huk won 2 straight international tournaments after spending more than half his SC2 career in Korea. At the moment he is a korean player just as much as he is a canadian citizen. Oh and also he plays Protoss... That helps too. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On July 14 2011 06:05 Megatronn wrote: Korean ladder training probably doesn't make THAT much of a difference. Practicing in any house is a huge stepping stone for a player no matter who is in the house, if the top US/EU players made a training house and took it as seriously as the Koreans did they would start becoming just as good as the Korean players. Umm no. Practicing on the korean ladder > any other ladder int he world. Makes a huge difference. A korean house is much more structured than a foreign house. Korean training is in every way > foreign training. Article was pretty stupid. Huk winning doesn't say anything about foreigners keeping up, in fact, foreigners are sucking more and more. What it says is with proper korean training, a foreigner can improve his game vastly than without. Foreigners who train in korea will become better, foreigners who don't will continue to suck. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
On July 14 2011 06:08 rysecake wrote: Umm no. Practicing on the korean ladder > any other ladder int he world. Makes a huge difference. A korean house is much more structured than a foreign house. Korean training is in every way > foreign training. Read my post again, please. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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darlhet
Italy548 Posts
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
THAT IS IT. Someone who is practicing in Korea isn't a foreigner. | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
Of course it goes the other way as well; I count Selects wins as American wins even though he's genetically Korean. And I guess soon I'll be calling Rain a Westerner too | ||
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Dimon87
Sweden218 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
Plenty of people go to Korea and come home because they can't keep up with the training schedule. I think it downplays the player's willingness to work hard when we say that it's just because of the ladder or living in Korea. Plenty of people maintain the same work ethic outside of Korea, and when Naniwa wins DreamHack or MLG when he beats MC/DongRaeGu whoever, everybody will be talking about how the West beat the East. No. It's because of the players. | ||
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Read i again, and still don' think you understand the problem here. Let's put someone like idra in the eg house, and say he practices 12 hours a day with machine, incontrol, etc. Now let's put the same idra in the IM house where he practices 12 hours a day with mvp, nestea, losira, younghwa, yoda, happy, seed, etc. while being supervised by IM's coach. It's no just the quantity of the training, it's the quality as well. In korea the infrastructure is already there. The players are already better, thus training with them will make you better. I don't care if you train in the eg house 24/7. You won't get the same training quality as you would if you were in the IM house, or the ogs house, slayers house etc. for even 5 hours. Koreans will forever be ahead because of this. It will takes years for the western society to accept and train like the way the koreans do. And who knows, by then the koreans may have already found the next evolution in esports training. Foreigners will lag behind forever. Wanna know why? Because that is what happens when you give someone a 12 year head start in a competition. | ||
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suejak
Japan545 Posts
However, the coolest part is how long this road has been for HuK. If you've followed him since the beta like a lot of us, he used to DOMINATE in NA. When the ladder was be-all-end-all important, he topped it constantly. Then he went to Korea and sorta dropped off the radar for several months. Seeing him come back after all the time and demonstrate just how good he's become, winning tournaments against Koreans, etc, is kinda moving -- one of our best has gone through what it took to become one of THEIR best. So now he's one of the best in the world, rather than simply the best in NA. Pretty cool. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44378 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 14 2011 05:48 Ares[Effort] wrote: Oh yea? Guess everyone else should just quit cause it seems to me you solved the mystery. But when Naniwa beat MC in HSC it was because Naniwa was training at the Slayers house and playing on the Korean ladder.. oh wait. He beat MC He currently would have little to no chance at winning a GSL though. I am not sure what you are trying to argue, if you think the average american can ladder 10 hours a day on the NA ladder with a NA team like complexity, and be competitive.... Eh... Time will tell. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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Serpico
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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