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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#121
It's obviously genetics that allowed huk to win. If we want to win we must be more like Huk--we must drink his blood and consume his flesh. The power of huk compells us.

Tldr: he practices a lot.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
July 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#122
If anything Huk winning dreamhack while every other non korrean was not able to finish top 4 shows that the way koreans practice, or practice is done in korea, is way superior to the way most foreign pros do it.
This is as far away from being an acomplishment for the foreigners as you can get without having a korrean on top.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
July 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#123
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
July 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#124
On July 02 2011 08:37 Joshy.IGN wrote:
Are wins from foreigners who have spent time training or living in Korea really able to be attributed to foreigners, or are they just another testament to the Korean methods of training?

It's not koreans that are superior.

It's korean attitude, training style, professionalism.

If you share that, you will at some point have a chance to be as good as the koreans.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#125
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 13 2011 20:45 GMT
#126
well for the discussion, its up to huk on what he is thinking :3. And what this shows is that not koreans are superior, just their training schedule. At the end some foreigners will train there to learn how to train and bring that back to the west. (already a few trying that :3 ) If foreigners still fail with the same amount of training and support, well then ...

But to be honest. I will miss the godlike bw title of "able to compete with top koreans (and not training in korea)"
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 20:48:03
July 13 2011 20:46 GMT
#127
On July 02 2011 08:37 Joshy.IGN wrote:


"HuK's win was not just his own that day. For many, HuK's victory at Dreamhack was an indicator that the western world was keeping up.


Read the rest of the article, which discusses other foreigners and Koreans like IdrA, Jinro, and SeleCT here: Click Here!




Seriously? How are Huk's wins any indication that the "Western World [is] keeping up"? He's a foreigner that is representing the Korean scene. His wins are just more evidence that the Korean scene is getting further and further ahead. You can contribute that to any number of factors, but Huk definitely does not represent the Western World in regards to Starcraft. If he had stayed and trained in the "Western World", I'm almost positive he would not have won HSC or Dreamhack.

If the Western World truly wants to keep pace with the Koreans, training in Korea is the only answer.
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
July 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#128
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.

Training with top oGs players is much much more efficient than training with foreigners.


On July 14 2011 05:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX

Not so sure about that anymore. ZENEX has been on a tear, oddly enough.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#129
On July 14 2011 05:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX


Oh yea? Guess everyone else should just quit cause it seems to me you solved the mystery. But when Naniwa beat MC in HSC it was because Naniwa was training at the Slayers house and playing on the Korean ladder.. oh wait.
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Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
July 13 2011 20:50 GMT
#130
On July 14 2011 05:48 Ares[Effort] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX


Oh yea? Guess everyone else should just quit cause it seems to me you solved the mystery. But when Naniwa beat MC in HSC it was because Naniwa was training at the Slayers house and playing on the Korean ladder.. oh wait.


i wish i trained in slayers or had the korean ladder. ;D
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 13 2011 20:54 GMT
#131
One day naniwa ^^
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
July 13 2011 20:54 GMT
#132
On July 14 2011 05:50 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:48 Ares[Effort] wrote:
On July 14 2011 05:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX


Oh yea? Guess everyone else should just quit cause it seems to me you solved the mystery. But when Naniwa beat MC in HSC it was because Naniwa was training at the Slayers house and playing on the Korean ladder.. oh wait.


i wish i trained in slayers or had the korean ladder. ;D

Should ask boxer for a hook up when you get to korea!
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 20:58:31
July 13 2011 20:56 GMT
#133
Huk's wins should be attributed to Huk, not foreigners or korea.

Korea obviously has the better training environment, but ultimately it's up to each individual player to keep up with it, and he's demonstrated that he's capable of working that hard.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 13 2011 20:58 GMT
#134
Huk's win was attributed to Huk. I don't get why people feel the need to create this divide.
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
July 13 2011 20:58 GMT
#135
On July 14 2011 05:48 Ares[Effort] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX


Oh yea? Guess everyone else should just quit cause it seems to me you solved the mystery. But when Naniwa beat MC in HSC it was because Naniwa was training at the Slayers house and playing on the Korean ladder.. oh wait.


I love Naniwa as much as the next guy, but other than him and maybe one or two other top top foreigners, there's really no one else that I can see competing with the best of the best that Korea has to offer.

If people believe staying in NA or EU and just adopting some Westernized version of Korean training is magically going to start producing top level talent, you're being delusional. By the time that happens, if it ever happens, the Koreans will be SO far ahead, it'll just be BW all over again.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 13 2011 20:59 GMT
#136
Huk is canadian spy he spy on america then he spy on korea. What better way to infiltrate the ranks of korean elite than through a display of strategical mastery in a game such as sc2.
SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
July 13 2011 20:59 GMT
#137
Who cares? Who ever trains harder will do better....
Who needs players when you have God?
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
July 13 2011 21:00 GMT
#138
to IGN, my favourite games website... thank you for supporting and promoting Starcraft
There can be only none
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
July 13 2011 21:02 GMT
#139
Huk would suck (or be a mediocre NA pro) if he wasn't in Korea. It's no surprise that practicing efficiently for 8-10 hours a day with the best players in the world is producing results. The time he's putting in is paying off, as he's now probably the best foreign protoss, or one of the best.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
July 13 2011 21:05 GMT
#140
On July 14 2011 05:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:40 Megatronn wrote:
If he lived somewhere else he could still train just as hard as he does in Korea.


And not be as good.

You need korean ladder and team for the practice to be valuable.

Practicing on oGs is much better, for example, than practicing on ZENEX

Korean ladder training probably doesn't make THAT much of a difference.

Practicing in any house is a huge stepping stone for a player no matter who is in the house, if the top US/EU players made a training house and took it as seriously as the Koreans did they would start becoming just as good as the Korean players.
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