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HuK's wins may be attributable to Korean methods of training but that's all they are, methods of training first developed in Korea, where there was the money and interest do so, they aren't intrinsically Korean.
If I had the money I'd pay for the best foreign progamers to live in a house in Europe or the US and have them train against each other 8-10 hours a day, come up with schedules to keep them fresh against different playstyles, would that mean that it was "European" or "American" training methods? No, they would be my training methods.
Individual coaches and the players themselves are the ones who deserve credit, not a particular group identity. The fact that foreigners, HuK and IdrA foremost among them, have gone to Korea, prospered there, and gone on to success shows that Koreans don't have some ethnic stranglehold on SCBW / StarCraft 2. They have an older more developed system, once we catch up there will be no more talk of Korean dominance.
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Idra was in Korea for what, a 1 year? More than that? He was always considered a foreigner, heck he even played in a foreigner only tournament, TSL2.
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if select is korean, huk is canadian. End of story
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On July 14 2011 13:07 Aurex wrote:
if select is korean, huk is canadian. End of story
Yep, they are. But select represents foreign training, and huk korean training. K now the story can end.
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I remember a couple months back I didnt like Huk much at all, he didnt seem focused enough. He was kinda always playing up to the camera. After being in the oGs house he has changed. I dont doubht that along with Huk's natural ability, the oGs house is the reason for HuK's improvement. The timeline fits. Good on ya Huk and oGs, its been a great to see. 
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On July 14 2011 12:59 DeepElemBlues wrote:Koreans don't have some ethnic stranglehold on SCBW / StarCraft 2. They have an older more developed system, once we catch up there will be no more talk of Korean dominance.
To catch up to someone you have to move faster than they are. That is not happening. Current trends pretty strongly suggest that the gap is going to continually widen, and there are no significant moves to reverse it.
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Huk's win is Huk. Because he is hardworking, talented, and has a great spirit and attitude towards SC2.
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On July 14 2011 13:20 kellymilkies wrote:
Huk's win is Huk. Because he is hardworking, talented, and has a great spirit and attitude towards SC2.
Truth!
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On July 14 2011 13:18 Dhalphir wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 12:59 DeepElemBlues wrote:Koreans don't have some ethnic stranglehold on SCBW / StarCraft 2. They have an older more developed system, once we catch up there will be no more talk of Korean dominance. To catch up to someone you have to move faster than they are. That is not happening. Current trends pretty strongly suggest that the gap is going to continually widen, and there are no significant moves to reverse it.
Exactly, do you see signs of the foreign scene catching up? The gap gets wider and wider with every tournament.
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It's cool to see the ethnicity side that there are non-koreans winning, but Huk won having trained in Korea, so it's not as cool as a foreigner winning having trained outside of korea
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why do most of you show such disrespect for oGs ?
HuK hasnt been training in Korea just on ladder , he is in the oGs house ! how can you not see how that can affect a pro player ?
amazing.
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I think this is a bit of a dumb discussion. Ofcourse HuK is a foreigner he's not Korean. And ofcourse he's now so good because of 'korean' practice methods. If other foreigners starts practicing 10+ hours a day with a good team around them they will improve as well.
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On July 02 2011 08:47 PartyBiscuit wrote:
HuK is HuK - he represents TL.
All HuK symbolizes, as the dreamhack commentators put (not Day9/Apollo) after his victory is that ANYBODY who trains hard enough in the right environment, can become a champion.
There is nothing left to discuss.
This is wrong, and belittles the entire player-base and game itself.
There are a lot of idiotic players who make dumb decisions constantly but have good mechanics. These players will not become champions, no matter how hard they train.
There is individual flair and decision making skills that you do not get via grinding out games involved in being a champion, ya?
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HuK is a Korean in the same way that Select is a foreigner.
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Huk korean? Lol.
Is Özil spanish? No.
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Its obviously due to korean training. there's no genetic reason why koreans are better, they just train harder.
its just plain silly to think that somebody who practices 10 hours a day wouldn't be much better than someone who can only practice 3 hours a day. once esports gets big in america, and more sponsorships are available, then pros can make a living off gaming, and be just as good. seems pretty straightforward to me.
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On July 15 2011 02:25 fishjie wrote:
Its obviously due to korean training. there's no genetic reason why koreans are better, they just train harder.
its just plain silly to think that somebody who practices 10 hours a day wouldn't be much better than someone who can only practice 3 hours a day. once esports gets big in america, and more sponsorships are available, then pros can make a living off gaming, and be just as good. seems pretty straightforward to me.
Unless it never does happen, like in BW, and the entire foreign scene just dies and the few willing move to korea.
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