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On June 23 2011 09:30 GrimReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:57 asperger wrote:On June 23 2011 08:50 GrimReefer wrote:i can't stop fiddling with my team. i dropped boxer,picked up huk, used the extra point to get clide. i just can't stop! + Show Spoiler +do i need more "aces"? i tried to pick people that would actually play for my anti's. edit: quote tag instead of spoiler Dude, DRG and YoungHwa in your antis? DRG is an ace, he will probably play at least once for MVP every match and get some wins. YoungHwa has played a shit ton of games for IM, he's probably going to be their most valuable mid-range player, killing a lot of players after their lead-off has lost (and against the weak teams in their division, he'll probably three-/all-kill when he gets the chance). Try to pick players for your main team who are likely to play, and players who are not likely to play for your anti-team, as you get -1 points if they play. i thought it was -1 point if they win and +1 if they lose. i was banking on them playing and losing. isn't that the point of the anti? or have i missed it entirely? then again, i maybe be drastically undervaluing the lack of parity between teams...and even the 3rd 4th best player on some teams is vastly better than all players on others?
His point was that these are not smart players to bank on losing because they are absolute beasts and probably will beat most players they face
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On June 23 2011 09:34 drgonzhere wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 09:30 GrimReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:57 asperger wrote:On June 23 2011 08:50 GrimReefer wrote:i can't stop fiddling with my team. i dropped boxer,picked up huk, used the extra point to get clide. i just can't stop! + Show Spoiler +do i need more "aces"? i tried to pick people that would actually play for my anti's. edit: quote tag instead of spoiler Dude, DRG and YoungHwa in your antis? DRG is an ace, he will probably play at least once for MVP every match and get some wins. YoungHwa has played a shit ton of games for IM, he's probably going to be their most valuable mid-range player, killing a lot of players after their lead-off has lost (and against the weak teams in their division, he'll probably three-/all-kill when he gets the chance). Try to pick players for your main team who are likely to play, and players who are not likely to play for your anti-team, as you get -1 points if they play. i thought it was -1 point if they win and +1 if they lose. i was banking on them playing and losing. isn't that the point of the anti? or have i missed it entirely? then again, i maybe be drastically undervaluing the lack of parity between teams...and even the 3rd 4th best player on some teams is vastly better than all players on others? His point was that these are not smart players to bank on losing because they are absolute beasts and probably will beat most players they face
but what about the scoring for anti team players? i understand his point, and just didn't take into consider how thin some of the teams are. i'll be editing my line-up..BUT i still can't figure out the anti-team scoring. i'm on page 7 of reading/skimming through looking for the anti scoring. so far people are guessing that anti-team cannot score you positive points, so you're just supposed to cheese it and pick fxu and switch them out for someone else in 6 weeks? hardly seems like the proper way to play.
you lose a point if your anti wins, do you gain or lose when they play, do you gain or lose when they lose. i assume that you get +1 when they lose and -1 if they win, but i haven't seen confirmation of anything yet. can anyone help?
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I tried to mix up mid tier aces/snipers that will usually be chosen later in matches to stop streaks for more points and have the ability to get a streak going themselves (san, leenock, july, alicia, byun)... I tried to include them from a variety of teams as well, and then I mixed in a few good "starter" players that have a decent chance of winning a few games like huk (a steal for 1 point imho) and IMhappy for whom I've heard and seen good things from. Far as my team goes... I think OGS is overdue for a gstl title so I went with them. Far as the anti-team goes I have not been impressed with Moon/check's play especially against korean players and I still needed a few points after that so I went with MVPGuineaPig. Oh and of course I couldn't go wrong with Nada for my captain 
let me know if anyone has thoughts on my lineup
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I'm still debating between Pot/MK/Losira/Nestea for my other 8-pointer along with DRG...
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On June 23 2011 09:44 Garnet wrote:
I'm still debating between Pot/MK/Losira/Nestea for my other 8-pointer along with DRG...
Why not grab a 9 pointer who you know will have to be a horse for their team to do well? Bomber has to play and win OFTEN for ST to have any chance imo. Just drop another player by a point and pick him or MMA up and you will have a solid top 2 who NEED to play.
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On June 23 2011 09:40 GrimReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 09:34 drgonzhere wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 09:30 GrimReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:57 asperger wrote:On June 23 2011 08:50 GrimReefer wrote:i can't stop fiddling with my team. i dropped boxer,picked up huk, used the extra point to get clide. i just can't stop! + Show Spoiler +do i need more "aces"? i tried to pick people that would actually play for my anti's. edit: quote tag instead of spoiler Dude, DRG and YoungHwa in your antis? DRG is an ace, he will probably play at least once for MVP every match and get some wins. YoungHwa has played a shit ton of games for IM, he's probably going to be their most valuable mid-range player, killing a lot of players after their lead-off has lost (and against the weak teams in their division, he'll probably three-/all-kill when he gets the chance). Try to pick players for your main team who are likely to play, and players who are not likely to play for your anti-team, as you get -1 points if they play. i thought it was -1 point if they win and +1 if they lose. i was banking on them playing and losing. isn't that the point of the anti? or have i missed it entirely? then again, i maybe be drastically undervaluing the lack of parity between teams...and even the 3rd 4th best player on some teams is vastly better than all players on others? His point was that these are not smart players to bank on losing because they are absolute beasts and probably will beat most players they face but what about the scoring for anti team players? i understand his point, and just didn't take into consider how thin some of the teams are. i'll be editing my line-up..BUT i still can't figure out the anti-team scoring. i'm on page 7 of reading/skimming through looking for the anti scoring. so far people are guessing that anti-team cannot score you positive points, so you're just supposed to cheese it and pick fxu and switch them out for someone else in 6 weeks? hardly seems like the proper way to play. you lose a point if your anti wins, do you gain or lose when they play, do you gain or lose when they lose. i assume that you get +1 when they lose and -1 if they win, but i haven't seen confirmation of anything yet. can anyone help? [edit] spelling
Whatever points your anti player gets, goes negative. So if a player gets 6 points, if he's on your main, you gain 6 points, if he's on your anti, you lose 6 points. Your anti team consists of 3 players, not an actual team.
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On June 23 2011 09:40 GrimReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 09:34 drgonzhere wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2011 09:30 GrimReefer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 08:57 asperger wrote:On June 23 2011 08:50 GrimReefer wrote:i can't stop fiddling with my team. i dropped boxer,picked up huk, used the extra point to get clide. i just can't stop! + Show Spoiler +do i need more "aces"? i tried to pick people that would actually play for my anti's. edit: quote tag instead of spoiler Dude, DRG and YoungHwa in your antis? DRG is an ace, he will probably play at least once for MVP every match and get some wins. YoungHwa has played a shit ton of games for IM, he's probably going to be their most valuable mid-range player, killing a lot of players after their lead-off has lost (and against the weak teams in their division, he'll probably three-/all-kill when he gets the chance). Try to pick players for your main team who are likely to play, and players who are not likely to play for your anti-team, as you get -1 points if they play. i thought it was -1 point if they win and +1 if they lose. i was banking on them playing and losing. isn't that the point of the anti? or have i missed it entirely? then again, i maybe be drastically undervaluing the lack of parity between teams...and even the 3rd 4th best player on some teams is vastly better than all players on others? His point was that these are not smart players to bank on losing because they are absolute beasts and probably will beat most players they face but what about the scoring for anti team players? i understand his point, and just didn't take into consider how thin some of the teams are. i'll be editing my line-up..BUT i still can't figure out the anti-team scoring. i'm on page 7 of reading/skimming through looking for the anti scoring. so far people are guessing that anti-team cannot score you positive points, so you're just supposed to cheese it and pick fxu and switch them out for someone else in 6 weeks? hardly seems like the proper way to play. you lose a point if your anti wins, do you gain or lose when they play, do you gain or lose when they lose. i assume that you get +1 when they lose and -1 if they win, but i haven't seen confirmation of anything yet. can anyone help? [edit] spelling
Players get +1 just for being chosen to play so it's impossible to get an overall negative score. The FXO -> F.United switch probably won't be possible the way people think it will be because all the FXO players will be worth 0 points after week 5 and then F.United players will be too expensive to switch for.
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On June 23 2011 09:33 Arccotangent wrote:Main Team+ Show Spoiler +2  Ace8  DongRaeGu (captain) 3  Keen9 MC1 Nuclear2 Puzzle2 Qxc1 SocceR8 Incredible MiracleOverall, I think the fact that the leadoff people have been released is pretty big, in that not only do you know there will be a guaranteed appearance, but also in that you can maybe get a feel for how a team may go in the future. I had already chosen QxC, as I thought for 2 points he would be getting many appearances for his team, but the appearance of asd/Nuclear made me also go with Nuclear instead of Violet. Soccer is at 1 point and given the apparent lack of players for FU, I felt he was worth it. Ace has had seemingly a good number of appearances for being 2 minerals, while my personal bias and also the fact that I can't remember another Zenex protoss made me choose Puzzle at 2 minerals. Keen is kind of a risky pick for me, since I believe he only had 0/1 appearances in the last GSTL, but I do believe he is the best terran on the team, and thus will get a good share of appearances. MC and DRG are based heavily on personal favorites, but I believe that as both are Aces and capable of multi kills, I chose them. Also, MC may be a bit of a stretch in some case as oGs should be a good team on paper and not necessarily need MC to save them every series, but in the past it has seemed that way. I feel more confident that MVP will fairly regularly have to go to DRG. I don't personally have team IM or its players as favorites, but given their overall depth, I felt that the additional ~4 minerals going from a middle tier team to IM would be worth it. 4 Curious5 GanZi4 MakaHaven't heard of curious, Maka is on a team full of terrans and arguably 2+ (Polt, MK) that are at the moment better, and Ganzi also is overshadowed by 2+ terrans (MMA, Ryung).
Ganzi and Maka in your anti team, YOU CRAZY
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On June 23 2011 09:49 drgonzhere wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 09:44 Garnet wrote:
I'm still debating between Pot/MK/Losira/Nestea for my other 8-pointer along with DRG... Why not grab a 9 pointer who you know will have to be a horse for their team to do well? Bomber has to play and win OFTEN for ST to have any chance imo. Just drop another player by a point and pick him or MMA up and you will have a solid top 2 who NEED to play.
No. Bomber is barely going to play because StarTale is in Group B, by far the weaker of the groups. He may have to come out against Incredible Miracle in week 10, but by then he's a squandered investment. July, Squirtle, Ace and hell Rainbow can easily deal with ZeNEX, HoSeo, fOu and FXO,
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On June 23 2011 10:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 09:49 drgonzhere wrote:On June 23 2011 09:44 Garnet wrote:
I'm still debating between Pot/MK/Losira/Nestea for my other 8-pointer along with DRG... Why not grab a 9 pointer who you know will have to be a horse for their team to do well? Bomber has to play and win OFTEN for ST to have any chance imo. Just drop another player by a point and pick him or MMA up and you will have a solid top 2 who NEED to play. No. Bomber is barely going to play because StarTale is in Group B, by far the weaker of the groups. He may have to come out against Incredible Miracle in week 10, but by then he's a squandered investment. July, Squirtle, Ace and hell Rainbow can easily deal with ZeNEX, HoSeo, fOu and FXO,
Also, Bomber's record in the GSTL is 2 wins, and 3 losses, over the course of 3 seasons.
He's played 3 times, out of his teams 6 appearances.
He has won two single games, never had a streak, and has been used as the ace Once in season two, and he lost his ace match.
Probably the worst player you could possibly pick for that price.
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Someone should calculate how many points MMA would have scored in the first Slayers championship run. He probably would have been worth 1 point too, as an unknown on a bad team.
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On June 23 2011 10:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 09:49 drgonzhere wrote:On June 23 2011 09:44 Garnet wrote:
I'm still debating between Pot/MK/Losira/Nestea for my other 8-pointer along with DRG... Why not grab a 9 pointer who you know will have to be a horse for their team to do well? Bomber has to play and win OFTEN for ST to have any chance imo. Just drop another player by a point and pick him or MMA up and you will have a solid top 2 who NEED to play. No. Bomber is barely going to play because StarTale is in Group B, by far the weaker of the groups. He may have to come out against Incredible Miracle in week 10, but by then he's a squandered investment. July, Squirtle, Ace and hell Rainbow can easily deal with ZeNEX, HoSeo, fOu and FXO,
Idk I think you'll be surprised I see a lot of underrated teams in that group, except for FXO obv. And I see an overrated team in ST, every single player on ST is inconsistent except for Bomber. I'm simply predicting that he will have to be played in situations that they wouldn't normally see an Ace player in because you'll never know how good his teammates will play on any given day.
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so i have a problem. i had a team that seemed like they would perform well, then i went and tried "tweaking it", which made me get 5 different lineups.
Team 1(my current lineup): Ace, Monster Team, and Co.
Members: MMA, Alicia, GuineaPig, GuMiHo, Ace, Happy, Hero, BboongBboong. Team: IM
Team 2: "Cheaper" Ace, Monster Team, and Others.
Members: DRG, Alicia, GuMiHo, Younghwa, Happy, Hero, BboongBboong. Team: IM
Team 3: Ace, better players, slightly weaker team
Members: MMA, aLive, GuMiho, Younghwa, Ace, Hero, BboongBboong. Team: MVP
Team 4: Double Ace, Slightly higher tier players, weak team
Members: MMA, DRG, aLive, Alicia, Younghwa, Happy, Hero, BboongBboong. Team: F. United
Team 5: Mostly balanced, no star player
Members: aLive, Alicia, GuineaPig, GuMiho, Younghwa, July, Ace, Happy. Team: MVP
Anti teams are same for all: Choya, Trickster, Maka
idk which one to choose, they all see pretty good. can't figure out to put it in poll format, so thoughts on which ones best?
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On June 23 2011 10:45 drgonzhere wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2011 10:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:On June 23 2011 09:49 drgonzhere wrote:On June 23 2011 09:44 Garnet wrote:
I'm still debating between Pot/MK/Losira/Nestea for my other 8-pointer along with DRG... Why not grab a 9 pointer who you know will have to be a horse for their team to do well? Bomber has to play and win OFTEN for ST to have any chance imo. Just drop another player by a point and pick him or MMA up and you will have a solid top 2 who NEED to play. No. Bomber is barely going to play because StarTale is in Group B, by far the weaker of the groups. He may have to come out against Incredible Miracle in week 10, but by then he's a squandered investment. July, Squirtle, Ace and hell Rainbow can easily deal with ZeNEX, HoSeo, fOu and FXO, Idk I think you'll be surprised I see a lot of underrated teams in that group, except for FXO obv. And I see an overrated team in ST, every single player on ST is inconsistent except for Bomber. I'm simply predicting that he will have to be played in situations that they wouldn't normally see an Ace player in because you'll never know how good his teammates will play on any given day.
The teams are not underrated. Maybe the players. I can see CoCa, Puzzle, Tassadar, Sage, and maybe qxc performing above expectations. But those teams are simply not strong enough to be real contenders for the playoffs. July is only inconsistent in ZvZ and that has been getting better recently. Squirtle is rock-solid. Ace has returned to being bad. Curious did very well in the iCCup Weekly, although his record is inflated due to Taeja not showing up. Virus is a consistent mid-low tier player. Rainbow is...I don't know what's up with him. I don't know how you can claim StarTale as a whole is inconsistent.
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The Unexpected Team
Main team
+ Show Spoiler +5  GuineaPig A unique player with strong opening skill using all 3 races. He is MVP's wildcard. 4 Squirtle He has a potential but has been underperforming. I can see him doing really well this time. 2 Taeja Underrated player. Will see him play more often. 2 Jjakji (Captain) New and upcoming player. Has been consistently in top 10 korean grandmaster league. Lack of stage experience though. 2 TheStC I had 2 points, not sure who else to pick. 1 BbongBbongPrime A talented player but has been overshadowed by his teammates. 8 DongRaeGu MVP's ace. Since MVP is facing a tough opponent this week, I am sure we will see him. 8 LosirA If needed, IM will send Losira first before Nestea. 4 MVP A team with evenly skilled players. If they stay focus and consistent, I can see them winning gstl.
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For Anti-Team FruitDealer and Maka just plain bad. GuineaPig is a guess as I could see him go either way.
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Wow, this is great. Really adds an exciting twist to following the GSTL. I've never played any type of fantasy pools (for any sport or game) so I'm putting in a lot of time and thought into my team. Judging from a lot of the questions people seem to be asking I thought I'd try to clarify some things and highlight the important factors I considered when making my picks.
+ Show Spoiler +1) There's two groups with 6 teams, and nobody from one group plays anybody from the other. Also, for the first 6 weeks there's two series played from Group B (Venus League) and one series played for group A (Jupiter League) per week. Also, FXO is playing for the first 6 weeks (so they'll get a lot of games early in the season) and FUnited doesn't start playing until the last 6 weeks. Because of this I wanted to run a 3-5 split: Start with 3 players in group A, and 5 players in group B. After the 6th week I'll trade 2 players so that I have a 5-3 split going into the second half of the season.
2) The team you choose is going to be the most influencial on points. Where having a player from IM on your roster will get you "bench points" (a single point for their team winning the series) the team gets you 1 or 2 points for every win. Also, the team you choose is the only part of your main team that can ever get you negative points (if your team goes 0-4, you lose 2 points, a score of 2-4 breaks even, or if your team 4-0s somebody you get 8 points). So you really want to pick the team that will score you the most points, not necessarily win the entire thing.
3) An anti-team can screw your team over just as much as a brilliant team pick can score you a lot of points. When picking somebody for your anti-team try to avoid snipers (that get sent out to take out a strong player of a particular race that they've been focusing their practice on), aces (the guys that carry your team and are expected to perform well against a large range of competition), or strong players on weak teams that are likely to see a lot of play (eg. gumiho[fOu]).
So with that in mind, I came up with this:
+ Show Spoiler +e0Main Team5 Alicia + Show Spoiler + Alicia is a very talented P user on slayers, and the only other P that competes with him on that team is Frozen. I think there's a fairly large difference in skill between the two, and I think when Slayers chooses to send out a P user, it will most often be Alicia. And when he does come out, he's going to be a monster to take down. Unfortunately, because he's the lone strong P user that we know of on Slayers, all the teams that have prepared P snipers to take out the likes of MC will send them out against Alicia. However, I have faith he'll be able to survive long enough to make this a valuable 5 point investment. 8 DongRaeGu + Show Spoiler +This was the most difficult pick to justify for me, but DRG is a monstrously good player on team MVP, and undeniably their ace. Group A is a very difficult group with the Slayers powerhouse, the underperforming oGs superstars, the MKP/Polt terran threat from Prime, and even a ticking time-bomb in the high salary TSL that has shown dissapointing results but clearly have talent in PuMa and aLive and the former glory of FD and sSKS. Against that competition I expect DRG to have to come out for MVP and bring it home for them often, something I have absolute confidence he'll be able to pull off. He'll be a guy that breaks lot of streaks in a difficult group, and when he wins he finishes off the other team to get the ace point (no -1 for losing, but +1 from making an appearance). 4 GuMiho + Show Spoiler + GuMiho is somebody a lot of people think is a weak player, but he seems the complete opposite to me. His play has been sloppy at times, but that's because he was the strongest Random user in the world for a while; you've gotta have balls, intelligence, and a lot of confidence in yourself to even attempt to compete at a professional level using random. And, like it or not, he's been fairly successful doing it. Now that he's focusing on Terran I think we'll see even greater things and more refined play from GuMiho, and since he's playing on a team that has sC[fOu] for an ace, no team is going to want to send out their strongest T-sniper to take him down. That adds even more value to this pick for me, and I expect a lot from him. 1 Hero + Show Spoiler + Hero was present last GSTL, but didn't seem that impressive. However, he is practicing with oGs, and from what I hear HuK has been singing his praises. It's possible he's made even more improvements and he's hungry to build a name for himself in this team league. If oGs is as confident in him as it seems, he'll get sent out early and often. He's talented enough to make it through the Code A qualifiers, a feat no FXO player was able to do. And who did he have to beat in the final round to qualify? None other than DRG. I didn't see the FXO stream of that match, but I saw the last 10 minutes or so of game 2; and let me say I am impressed (think warping 5 sentry from a proxy pylon to FF a large group of roaches as they retreat, allowing your blink stalkers to clean up about 30 supply of Z). Smart player, currently fairly unknown, but he'll definitely have the opportunity to make a name for himself here, and he's got the talent to do it. Also, like gumiho, Hero's going to be dodging the strongest P-sniper simply because MC is the ace for oGs. I wish I was confident in another 1point pick that would get bumped in value in the first couple weeks so that I could trade for him the week he plays, but I'll play it safe and just have this guy sitting on my opening roster. 1 IMHappy + Show Spoiler + This guy is highly ranked on the korean ladder (top20 GM), highly spoken of by the coach (that likes to let his lesser known players get an opportunity to show what they're made of), and being sent out first against [fOu] (imo a fairly weak team with only strong terrans, a matchup IMHappy has to be good at if he's IMMVP's practice partner). He'll likely see a lot of play this season, and likely has the talent to take more than a couple wins. Also, he's on team IM, so whenever IM wins against a weak team in their group this guy gives me another bench point. 5 July + Show Spoiler + I think July is one of the best Z users in the world right now. He plays very fast, has excellent mechanics, constantly scouts for weakness, looks for opportunities to close out the game, and isn't afraid to do it. He executes almost perfectly every time, he has a lot of competitive experience from his BW days (you know he won a golden mouse right? you know he was monstrous at BW too, right?) so nerves will not get to him. July will deliver. And since these games are going to be played in July, the coach doesn't want to have to deal with pissed off fans if ST loses a series without their opponents having to go through July first (for those who don't know JulyZerg saw most of his BW success in the month of July) This big name will play a lot, and with another very strong Z user in ST_Curious to practice ZvZ with, he may not have as big a weakness as some people think. He'll rack in points, I'm sure of it. To top it off, he has a high enough point value to trade for known talent when august rolls around and the games in group B slow down and he stops getting me bench points. 1 Tiger + Show Spoiler + Originally I had CreatorPrime in this slot which left me with a 4-4 split of Group A and B players. However, I really wanted a 1-pointer from ST since I expect them to go 4-1 in their group and some underrated talent to make a debut and rack up some wins. I just couldn't find a player that fit the description. But when ST announced that Tiger won the in-house competition for which player gets to 4-0 the underprepared foreign team FXO, I made a snap decision and switched out creator for my new lucky charm. Don't let me down Tiger, I'm counting on your korean pride to send those amateur foreign "pros" packing. And if you do well enough I may not trade you for creator or soccer around week 6. 3 Younghwa (captain) + Show Spoiler + One of two P users with names on the IM roster, and in my opinion the better of the two. He's talented enough to take games off some of the most fearsome competition and he's probably going to be sent out whenever IM chooses to send out a P user. He's holding my captain flag because I think he'll do well enough this season to consistently rack up points and win tiebreaks against most of the aces we have to choose from. Also, constant bench points is another factor that would make me hesitant to trade him. My high investment players like DRG, Alicia, July, and GuMiho might have to get changed around based off how it's going, but I'm confident Yonghwa will be a successful workhorse all season. 8 Incredible Miracle + Show Spoiler + IM may not be able to beat such a deep and talented team as slayers, and they did lose to ST in an earlier GSTL season. But let's face facts: slayers, ogs, and MVP are in a more difficult group. The wins they get are likely going to be 4-2 or 4-3. IM has monstrous talent: these are the guys nestea, losira, and IMMVP practice with. They're so good because of who they have to practice with, who they get support from on their team, and who helps them refine their builds. IM has sent out no-names in the past that have 3-killed or all-killed weaker teams like ZeNeX (players like yonghwa and seed), and with a lot of hype behind players like IMHappy from the IM coach himself, it's going to be repeated in the weak group B. I'm expecting a lot of 4-0s and 4-1s this season, and I'll be happy to restrict the options I have for players by letting this team bring me the big points. There's a lot of questions about how the anti-team works on this thread. Let me explain it: Take that player, put them on your main team. How many points did that player get you? (+1 for being sent out to play, -1 for losing: aka not finishing off the opposing team, +2 points for every win, +1 or +2 for breaking a 2- or 3-game streak, +1 if their team wins a series). So, essentially, the +1 for being sent out to play and the -1 for losing cancel eachother out, except in instances where that player finishes off a team. Let's just say, 0 points for being sent out, 0 points for losing a game, +1 point if they are the player that wins the last game in the series, and it works out to the same thing. So, if you have an Ace on your anti-team, and they carry their team to victory, you get -1 for them finishing off a team, -1 or -2 if they break a 2- or 3-game streak, -2 for every game they won, and another -1 because their team won the series. I've kept all that scoring in mind when I chose my anti-team. 4 Maka + Show Spoiler + Maka plays T for Prime, and is completely overshadowed by MKP and Polt. I can't think of any reason why the coach would send him out over his sure talent and his up and comers like creator. Even if Maka does get sent out, he's a weak, weak player. I don't imagine he'll take even a single game for Prime. Thanks retardtosis archon for the hype over this player, who's always been less than impressive. I think you gave my antiteam a great pick here. He's playing for Prime, so I don't expect to get more than a single anti-bench point for using this player on my antiteam either. 3 Sheth + Show Spoiler + I know a lot of people have a lot of faith in Sheth, and I'm cheering for him too. But I'm being realistic; players like idra and jinro aren't reliable against nameless korean players on Proteams, and even though I think Sheth is more talented than those two he doesn't have the experience and hasn't put in the hours of practice necessary to compete with the guys that have been doing this for a living for 6+ months already. I'm certain he won't get me even a single anti-bench point. He's a risky pick though, because playing for FXO means that if anybody wins, they're likely going to be breaking a streak and that single win is worth 3 or 4 points. But I have faith that FXO isn't ready for this competition yet; if they stay in korea for a while and practice as hard as the korean teams do the situation would be different. Believe me when I say I'll be happy when I can confidently put a player like Sheth on my main team, but for now, sorry man T T 6 Trickster + Show Spoiler + More retardtosis archon hype for this uninspiring player. He played bw, was good at bw, is good at SC2, but it's just not enough. I don't think he can compete with the current talent out there. He's getting up there in age, and while I don't think that makes a big difference, I do think a persons hunger for success fades after time and affects their motivation. I think I read a comment somewhere that said TSL doesn't have a strict practice schedule, another factor that makes me have less faith in their players. I don't think TSL will do well in Group A, and any success they do have will be on the shoulders of PuMa and aLive. I hope you don't choose this season to prove me wrong. I don't think TSL will win more than a single series in group A either, so his team won't rack me up a lot of anti-bench points.
So that's my team, and my (lengthy) rational behind it. Anybody willing to offer criticism? (I'm looking at you guys, the silent ones that have been playing the BW fantasy pools for years and are just sitting there laughing while people put cella on their team over IMHappy)
And again, for the record, I hope our foreign talent makes me regret having doubts about them. A lot of them are truly brilliant players and very deserving of the respect they get. I hope more teams will go to Korea to practice and compete in the future, and as always, I wish them the best of luck. I'm cheering for you guys, even though I'm not betting on you.
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U Jealous?
Main Team
5 Alicia
A solid player for the price
1 Jjun
My last pick, needed someone from one of the teams I didn't have and I've heard good things about him
8 NesTea (captain)
I knew I wanted one of the 3 people I consider to be the power house zergs right now (nestea, losira, and DRG) and at 8 points each nestea seemed like the safest bet
8 Polt
100% win rate against protoss, looked strong against terran in the super tournament, and Prime isn't facing a team with a super zerg god for at least their first three matches
2 Qxc
I <3 qxc. My favorite foreigner
3 Sheth
Move over IdrA! Sheth is my favorite American Zerg!
1 SocceR
Grabbing him now while he is cheap
4 Squirtle
Another solid investment for a medium price
4 MVP
Anti Team
3 Check
My beta hero, now fallen from grace =(
4 Clide
Cliiiiiide, you're so good but why don't you ever win!
6 Trickster
Wtf man? What happened to you?!
I'm sure it was stupid to pick two people from FXO but I couldn't decide between QXC and Sheth so I said screw it, I'll take both. There's no real cash at stake or anything and as this is my first time doing a fantasy team, i'm sure i'll mess up other stuff anyway.
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On June 23 2011 10:44 Emporio wrote:
Someone should calculate how many points MMA would have scored in the first Slayers championship run. He probably would have been worth 1 point too, as an unknown on a bad team.
No way he would have been worth 1 point in the 2nd season of GSTL. In the first he was the team's ace and got 3 kills almost sealing the reversed all kill. If San is worth 5 points MMA would have been at least 5, more likely 6.
But obviously there will be upsets and people being worth 1 or 2 points that will be worth a lot more for the next season, the tricky thing is finding out who those players are.
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