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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:04:44
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#781
I just need one answer:

Who is more valuable and consistent for ZeNEX, CoCa or Puzzle?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:12:31
June 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#782
On June 23 2011 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I just need one answer:

Who is more valuable and consistent for ZeNEX, CoCa or Puzzle?

I picked Puzzle. CoCa doesn't seem consistent to me, and I think Puzzle has improved since last GSTL. I feel uncomfortable with both, though. Puzzle also seems to be sent out first.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
madcow305
Profile Joined January 2010
United States152 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#783
One big question guys:

Are you allowed to trade your chosen TEAM?

For example, if you have FXO as your team, and then when the 1st half of the season is almost over, you see they have almost no games left to play. Can you then trade for F.United?
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
June 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#784
On June 23 2011 06:14 madcow305 wrote:
One big question guys:

Are you allowed to trade your chosen TEAM?

For example, if you have FXO as your team, and then when the 1st half of the season is almost over, you see they have almost no games left to play. Can you then trade for F.United?


Yes, but don't forget about the weighted trade value! X.United will be worth a lot more towards the end of the season, especially if FXO loses most of their games.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
June 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#785
On June 23 2011 06:11 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I just need one answer:

Who is more valuable and consistent for ZeNEX, CoCa or Puzzle?

I picked Puzzle. CoCa doesn't seem consistent to me, and I think Puzzle has improved since last GSTL. I feel uncomfortable with both, though. Puzzle also seems to be sent out first.


True but most of Coca's losses were against top-tier terrans, and his ZvP looks good enough to warrant a sniper role. Have you seen the iCCup weekly where both of them played?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#786
On June 23 2011 06:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:11 asperger wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I just need one answer:

Who is more valuable and consistent for ZeNEX, CoCa or Puzzle?

I picked Puzzle. CoCa doesn't seem consistent to me, and I think Puzzle has improved since last GSTL. I feel uncomfortable with both, though. Puzzle also seems to be sent out first.


True but most of Coca's losses were against top-tier terrans, and his ZvP looks good enough to warrant a sniper role. Have you seen the iCCup weekly where both of them played?

No, how did they fare? I've only checked out the GSTL games.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 22 2011 21:24 GMT
#787
On June 23 2011 05:38 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 05:34 mordek wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:30 maryelizbethwinstead wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
SockmyCoke

Main Team
5 (P)Alicia - Joining the herd
8 (Z)DongRaeGu (captain) - Needed a Zerg
5 (T)GanZi - Tends to play a lot
1 (P)Hero - This bad he is not
1 (T)IMHappy - Seems he's on a roll
3 (P)Seed - He's good I've been told
2 (T)Yoda - Think he's come to play
3 (P)Younghwa - Nothing much to say
8 Incredible Miracle - All about the draw

Anti Team
5 (T)Lyn - Just because I saw
5 (Z)Moon - Written on the sched
4 (T)ThorZaIN - These 3 ain't playing yet


I was contemplating having Seed and Younghwa on my team but they're both on the same team and same race. Anyone know if they fulfill different roles or would this be redundant?

They are both sent out in the middle (possibly to snipe Ps), but I think YoungHwa is a lot better.

Thanks. There isn't an obvious 3 point person to trade him for unfortunately and I think I'm content with the rest of my line-up... maybe Twilight?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
June 22 2011 21:29 GMT
#788
On June 23 2011 06:18 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 06:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:11 asperger wrote:
On June 23 2011 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I just need one answer:

Who is more valuable and consistent for ZeNEX, CoCa or Puzzle?

I picked Puzzle. CoCa doesn't seem consistent to me, and I think Puzzle has improved since last GSTL. I feel uncomfortable with both, though. Puzzle also seems to be sent out first.


True but most of Coca's losses were against top-tier terrans, and his ZvP looks good enough to warrant a sniper role. Have you seen the iCCup weekly where both of them played?

No, how did they fare? I've only checked out the GSTL games.


Coca lost in Round 5 to Puma, who eventually won the entire thing. Puzzle got to the finals and lost 4-1 to Puma. I haven't seen the games myself; I'm waiting for the VODs.

And now I'm seriously considering Puma as a TvP sniper for TSL. From what I've heard he's a beast in that matchup...
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:35:43
June 22 2011 21:31 GMT
#789
I do wonder if F-united will be the surprise team hit for 1 point.

Naniwa is just plain solid.

Moon seems to have come on leaps and bounds in his play.

And I can see thorzain being used as a sniper for opposition aces, with his carefully prepared and planned builds to take some more korean scalps to add to his collection.

drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
June 22 2011 21:32 GMT
#790
I'm pretty sure Puzzle is widely considered to be one of the top tier Protosses in Korea (read: should be code s), and is perhaps even considered one of the Aces of Zenex.

I would definitely put He and Puma as the best value in the draft at 2 points, that's way low ball for two players who were at one time considered among the best up and comers in SCBW imo.
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
June 22 2011 21:33 GMT
#791
On June 23 2011 04:49 Icectar wrote:
i'm having trouble picking a two pointer for my final roster slot. my options are
PuMa: reasonable results in team matches
The StC: really hyped, heard he's really good
Taeja: all killed ZeNex in May
Ace: heard hes a steal for that much

thoughts?


so someone asked what my team is, so its posted under the spoiler below. atm, i'm going for Ace, but is there anything i'm missing about the other players?

+ Show Spoiler +
Darknesss

Main Team
2 (P)Ace
5 (P)Alicia
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
5 (R)GuineaPig
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (P)Hero
9 (T)MMA (captain)
1 (P)SocceR
8 Incredible Miracle

Anti Team
3 (P)Choya
4 (T)Maka
6 (P)Trickster
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
MLG-Kyle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:33:16
June 22 2011 21:33 GMT
#792
Korean my Wayward Son

I'm super fond of my team name. With that being said...

Main Team
2 (P)Ace - As many other people have said, a steal at two points
1 (P)HuK - Hot off of the win at DreamHack, you know he's got to be feeling confident.
8 (T)MarineKing - My favorite Terran to watch. I (poorly) model my play after this guy.
8 (Z)NesTea (captain) - Arguably the best player in the world and sure to rally together some wins.
3 (P)Seed - A good mid-tier player to fill out my roster.
1 (T)Special - Not very familiar with the guy, but with a name like Special, I've got to hope for the best.
4 (P)Squirtle - A GSTL superstar. I'm hoping for a nice spree from this Protoss powerhouse.
3 (T)SuperNoVa - I like him at 3 points.
6 SlayerS - Can't discount a team run by The Emperor himself.

Anti Team
4 (Z)FruitDealer - I just haven't seen anything from the former GSL champ that has impressed me lately.
5 (R)GuineaPig - A guy with a big point value that I haven't heard much of. Hoping for a little bit of luck here.
4 (T)Maka - I think this guy has been largely figured out at this point and will be an easy win for his opponents.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 21:41:26
June 22 2011 21:34 GMT
#793
Purple Protoss

Main Team
2 (P)Ace - A steal for only 2 points. He has had some great games in GSTL.
2 (T)BoxeR - Also a steal for 2 points, in my opinion.
1 (P)HuK - The best value for the point ever. Every team will want him.
5 (Z)July - A very solid player. Probably underpriced.
9 (P)MC (captain) - Worth every point. I still think he is the most consistent player of all time.
4 (T)NaDa - High potential. I still see him improve leaps every time I watch him play.
4 (P)NaNiwa - Another very consistent player. Definitely worth more than 4 points.
3 (Z)Sheth - Sheth is the most badmannered player in the world.
6 SlayerS - Such an extremely skilled team.

Anti Team
4 (T)Clide - somewhat overrated. He has yet to show results.
5 (T)GanZi - A risk for me. I think GanZi is a very good player. I think he is one of the weaker 5 pointers though.
4 (T)Maka - past his prime. I don't see him making a comeback.
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Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
June 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#794
On June 23 2011 06:33 MLG-Kyle wrote:
Korean my Wayward Son

I'm super fond of my team name. With that being said...

Main Team
2 (P)Ace - As many other people have said, a steal at two points
1 (P)HuK - Hot off of the win at DreamHack, you know he's got to be feeling confident.
8 (T)MarineKing - My favorite Terran to watch. I (poorly) model my play after this guy.
8 (Z)NesTea (captain) - Arguably the best player in the world and sure to rally together some wins.
3 (P)Seed - A good mid-tier player to fill out my roster.
1 (T)Special - Not very familiar with the guy, but with a name like Special, I've got to hope for the best.
4 (P)Squirtle - A GSTL superstar. I'm hoping for a nice spree from this Protoss powerhouse.
3 (T)SuperNoVa - I like him at 3 points.
6 SlayerS - Can't discount a team run by The Emperor himself.

Anti Team
4 (Z)FruitDealer - I just haven't seen anything from the former GSL champ that has impressed me lately.
5 (R)GuineaPig - A guy with a big point value that I haven't heard much of. Hoping for a little bit of luck here.
4 (T)Maka - I think this guy has been largely figured out at this point and will be an easy win for his opponents.



MLG-Kyle, you might want to avoid Guinea on anti-team, he's done pretty well in team formats.
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#795
On June 23 2011 06:32 drgonzhere wrote:
I'm pretty sure Puzzle is widely considered to be one of the top tier Protosses in Korea (read: should be code s), and is perhaps even considered one of the Aces of Zenex.

I would definitely put He and Puma as the best value in the draft at 2 points, that's way low ball for two players who were at one time considered among the best up and comers in SCBW imo.

Thanks, I will keep Puzzle, then. I value ZeNex players higher because of their easier group and TSL's fairly poor showings in the past (as well as their harder group).
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
MLG-Kyle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
June 22 2011 21:53 GMT
#796
On June 23 2011 06:44 Icectar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 23 2011 06:33 MLG-Kyle wrote:
Korean my Wayward Son

I'm super fond of my team name. With that being said...

Main Team
2 (P)Ace - As many other people have said, a steal at two points
1 (P)HuK - Hot off of the win at DreamHack, you know he's got to be feeling confident.
8 (T)MarineKing - My favorite Terran to watch. I (poorly) model my play after this guy.
8 (Z)NesTea (captain) - Arguably the best player in the world and sure to rally together some wins.
3 (P)Seed - A good mid-tier player to fill out my roster.
1 (T)Special - Not very familiar with the guy, but with a name like Special, I've got to hope for the best.
4 (P)Squirtle - A GSTL superstar. I'm hoping for a nice spree from this Protoss powerhouse.
3 (T)SuperNoVa - I like him at 3 points.
6 SlayerS - Can't discount a team run by The Emperor himself.

Anti Team
4 (Z)FruitDealer - I just haven't seen anything from the former GSL champ that has impressed me lately.
5 (R)GuineaPig - A guy with a big point value that I haven't heard much of. Hoping for a little bit of luck here.
4 (T)Maka - I think this guy has been largely figured out at this point and will be an easy win for his opponents.



MLG-Kyle, you might want to avoid Guinea on anti-team, he's done pretty well in team formats.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. Luckily I have enough time to make a swap :-p
MowerRH
Profile Joined October 2010
United States25 Posts
June 22 2011 22:33 GMT
#797
Thoughts any1?

Main Team
2 (P)Ace
5 (P)Alicia
2 (T)BoxeR
1 (P)Hero
1 (P)HuK
8 (Z)LosirA
8 (Z)NesTea (captain)
1 (P)OpTiKzErO
8 Incredible Miracle

Anti Team
4 (Z)FruitDealer
5 (R)GuineaPig
4 (T)Maka
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 22:44:55
June 22 2011 22:35 GMT
#798
On June 23 2011 02:34 Nexic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On JuNe 23 2011 02:02 drgonzhere wrote:
Here it is Boys:

Lords of Karma

Main Team
8 (Z)DongRaeGu
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (T)IMHappy
9 (T)MMA (Captain)
1 (Z)Monster
2 (T)PuzZle
2 (T)Taeja
3 (P)Younghwa
6 SlayerS

My main team is really similar to yours except a little more limited because I think IM is the superior choice (point-scoring wise) and they're 8 pts instead of 6, so I have less points for other players

Main Team
8 (Z)DongRaeGu
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (T)IMHappy
9 (T)MMA (Captain)
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
2 (P)Ace
1 (Z)Hero
3 (P)Younghwa
8 Incredible Miracle

This is 37/36 I like this setup as it's pretty balanced in terms of teams (solid guys from MVP, fOu, IM, SlayerS, Prime, ST, and oGs) and I want to maximize the bonus points I get from players on the winning team of a match. Plus I think these guys are likely to play. I guess the most obvious downsize is (P)Younghwa or (T)GuMiho but I still kinda want both of them. Anyone have suggestions for modifications/alternatives?
Alright wasted way too much time thinking about it again and I revised my team again, this is like the 5th lineup lol. I switched MMA for Alicia and put in some more mid-range players. It's a little less balanced team-wise (no prime/ogs) but I might make a trade later on when they play more. Let me know what you think.

Also this version is heavily based on team matchups, e.g. normally I would'nt pick Ace but I want someone on ST as I think they should win most of their matches pretty easy. Plus maybe he can score some wins on weaker teams.

so EZ

Main Team
2 (P)Ace
5 (P)Alicia
8 (Z)DongRaeGu (captain)
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (T)IMHappy
3 (T)Keen
2 (P)Puzzle
3 (P)Younghwa
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 22 2011 22:44 GMT
#799
The more teams I look at the more confident I am in my own team and the more confused I am of of my competitions picks! Keep it up guys! :D
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
June 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#800
On June 23 2011 07:44 starcraft911 wrote:
The more teams I look at the more confident I am in my own team and the more confused I am of of my competitions picks! Keep it up guys! :D


Sooo most of your time in this thread has been spent talking shit about other peoples picks. I'm calling you out on it: What are your immaculate picks? You can't just come in here and shit all over everyone man, that's not right. So reveal your alleged genius to everyone so you can actually back up what you say.
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
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