EPTMain Team
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Alicia2
Jjakji5
July3
Keen (captain)7
sC5
TOP2
ViOlet3
Younghwa4 MVP
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Check5
Killer5
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bodebode
United States21 Posts
Main Team 5 Alicia2 Jjakji5 July3 Keen (captain)7 sC5 TOP2 ViOlet3 Younghwa4 MVP Anti Team 3 Check5 Killer5 Lyn | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On June 21 2011 03:12 N.geNuity wrote: IU tier Main Team + Show Spoiler + 4 GuMiho- fOu that is 5-2 GSL. I am banking a lot of points on him. 8 MarineKing (captain)- marineking is damn good, and I'm hoping his teammates underperform so he can get some streaks. However, with polt and maka, I don't know if he will get those game streaks, but I expect him to appear and get wins for me. Plus I cannot trade a captain, and so if polt suddenly doesn't do as well, I anticipate marineking always staying solid.4 Min- a solid zerg, needed a 4 pointer. Originally had maka here but I had to have a zerg on my main team :/. (I think with maka/polt/marineking prime has a solid team).4 NaDa- definitely solid, and may have a chance to get streaks. Could have done supernova or something, but nada should definitely appear and should definitely do well.6 Ryung- definitely solid, and definiely has the chanced to get streaks. MMA is probably ace player, but Slayers is a solid enough team that MMA probably won't have a chance to rack up streaks. If ryung appears first in the lineup ever and opens up with a 2 or 3 game streak, I'm golden. I imagine slayers will win a lot, so having two slayers is at least +1 points for the win.1 SocceR- seems solid, and for F.U. is capable of getting streaks. He will appear at least, and I needed a low point value (he is 1 point). With F.U., moon will probably be ace, so if F.U. surprises me and wins soccer should appear (ie. in a scenario where lyn/soccer get 1 or 2 wins then thorzain or naniwa actually win, I am hoping soccer is the one to get the streaks)2 TheBest- well, if I have fOu as my team, a low level 2 pointer on that team can give me +1 points if they win.3 Twilight- will appear for FXO, and will be only one capable of getting streaks (maybe sheth too). No offense, but I am banking on white people losing. Or at least they will not be good enough to get streaks which really boost fantasy points.4 For Our Utopia- they have a solid group with gumiho/leenock/sc, and I'm hoping the best can get some wins in there. I need gumiho to pull through with some surprising streaks to get fOu 4-1 or 4-2 wins, as I don't anticipate leenock and sc appearing first in the lineups. Anti Team + Show Spoiler + 5 Moon: F.U. will probably lose most of their matches, and so I hope Moon will lose too. By having anti team of all 1 team, it either helps with the +1 team wins or will kill me. I hope to be able to trade some of them for the ogs players that aren't appearing in the lineups (probably moon tbh. Right now TOP and Zenio are both 5 points, maybe 4. If either of them aren't showing up in ogs I can trade and hope to not risk anti team winning (team may win, but if they don't even show up it is safer)In addition, as someone pointed out, F.U. don't play for a while. 4 NaNiwa- white people will lose. I ahve total faith in that.4 ThorZaIN- white people will lose. I have total faith in that.new & revised Main Team + Show Spoiler + 5 Alicia- I had nada (4) and ryung (6) before; since alicia is starting off, I decided to go with ganzi (5) and alicia (5). Main point was to grab alicia, since it's the only time we can guarentee we get some of the "lead off" players without the trade cost. Ganzi so that if slayers win (which I think they will) I'll at least get the +1 bonus.5 GanZi- I can trade him away if he doesn't show up (I expect MMA is slayers' ace, and if ryung is used instead of ganzi, well, hopefully +1 bonus from slayers winning would cancel trade away cost)4 GuMiho- same reasoning as first submissione. Solid 5-2 in gstl iirc.8 MarineKing (captain)- same as before.4 Min- same as before, plus another slayers for the first week. If slayers wins then I can trade away any of them without really "losing" anything.1 Nuclear- starting off for fOu. Had soccer here before, but there is absolutely no reason to have soccer on my team now. Just wasting space when I can always trade for him later. I think IMHappy will probably win, but I gotta have faith in fOu. 2 TheBest- same as before; fOu.3 Twilight- same as before; I think best hope for streak on FXO this opening week.4 For Our Utopia- same as before. Anti Team + Show Spoiler + 3 Fenix- I had naniwa/thorzain before, but I really think Fenix is a better bet. I at least think thorzain and naniwa have a better shot at showing up in the lineup than Fenix; with soccer, moon, lyn, thorzain, and naniwa, is F.United going to use fenix a whole lot? I hope not for the sake of my team. And I still don't think F.United will win a whole lot of series, so fenix is really a potential like 0 pointer.5 Moon- same as before; plus F.United is not playing for a long time so I can reevaluate later.5 TOP- ogs doesn't play until week 3, but ogs has so many stacked players that I hope TOP isn't put into the lineup; I really was back and forth between him and zenio (since I needed two 5 point players; before I had thorzain (4) and naniwa (4)). ogs used Supernova, Nada, Zenio, Hero, and MC last gstl may, and they may use TheStc, inca (pvp snipe?), etc during the course of this gstl. There's at least 8 ogs players that I can see being put in, and each match surely MC is reserved for the ace. That's 3 slots they can fill with 7 quality players; ogs players is a good anti-team pick and +1 from ogs winning isn't as risky as say, naniwa going to get a 3 kill against my expectation or something. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:09 CosmicSpiral wrote: Did TheStC just return from military service? Is that why he never appeared in previous GSTLs? Because of the reasoning you just gave  | ||
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
Main Team + Show Spoiler + Anti Team + Show Spoiler + _________________________________________________________________________________ + Show Spoiler [Main Team Explanation] + Alicia because SlayerS will send him out almost every series. He's their best Protoss, a Terran sniper and he's proven skilled in PvP. Easy choice IMO. oGs like to start off with Hero, and he was a steal at only 1 point. Choosing between Yoda and Happy, I went with Happy because he qualified for Code A. I actually chose him before seeing that IM are in fact sending him out first. Line because I needed a Zerg, he did well in GSL and ZeNEX will definitely field him. MC is practicing like a boss now, and I can easily see him coming out to score at least two kills in a bunch of series. Qxc because he's going to be used every time FXO play, and I can see him beating a few players. Squirtle is, IMO, ST's best protoss and I don't see why they won't use him. Maybe they'll use Ace instead sometimes, but all up I think Squirtle will get more play time. Yonghwa - Choice between Seed and Yonghwa. Heard some people say Yonghwa is better, so I decided to go with him. oGs because they have a ridiculously solid team, and with a beast-mode MC in their line-up I think they'll take this season. + Show Spoiler [Anti-Team Explanation] + Curious is kind of a guess, maybe I'm totally wrong. But I don't see ST fielding him when they have July. Killer because ... I don't know. He's not that great, TSL will probably prefer to send out Trickster. Maka - why would Prime field him when they have MKP and Polt? | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
Okay that makes perfect sense. Now I see no reason for him not to play (unless the management is a bunch of fools).  | ||
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
On June 22 2011 17:01 Copenap wrote: He has Clide for 4 points in his main team, he's obviously trolling <3 I'm still suprised we see so many FU Anti Team picks. If you're unable to trade them out due to inflated points you're screwed, it's such a small team and they will win some games. ? Clides better than you | ||
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Teoyaomqui
Sweden326 Posts
On June 23 2011 12:10 vicious.e0 wrote: Wow, this is great. Really adds an exciting twist to following the GSTL. I've never played any type of fantasy pools (for any sport or game) so I'm putting in a lot of time and thought into my team. Judging from a lot of the questions people seem to be asking I thought I'd try to clarify some things and highlight the important factors I considered when making my picks. + Show Spoiler + 1) There's two groups with 6 teams, and nobody from one group plays anybody from the other. Also, for the first 6 weeks there's two series played from Group B (Venus League) and one series played for group A (Jupiter League) per week. Also, FXO is playing for the first 6 weeks (so they'll get a lot of games early in the season) and FUnited doesn't start playing until the last 6 weeks. Because of this I wanted to run a 3-5 split: Start with 3 players in group A, and 5 players in group B. After the 6th week I'll trade 2 players so that I have a 5-3 split going into the second half of the season. 2) The team you choose is going to be the most influencial on points. Where having a player from IM on your roster will get you "bench points" (a single point for their team winning the series) the team gets you 1 or 2 points for every win. Also, the team you choose is the only part of your main team that can ever get you negative points (if your team goes 0-4, you lose 2 points, a score of 2-4 breaks even, or if your team 4-0s somebody you get 8 points). So you really want to pick the team that will score you the most points, not necessarily win the entire thing. 3) An anti-team can screw your team over just as much as a brilliant team pick can score you a lot of points. When picking somebody for your anti-team try to avoid snipers (that get sent out to take out a strong player of a particular race that they've been focusing their practice on), aces (the guys that carry your team and are expected to perform well against a large range of competition), or strong players on weak teams that are likely to see a lot of play (eg. gumiho[fOu]). So with that in mind, I came up with this: + Show Spoiler + e0 Main Team 5 Alicia + Show Spoiler + Alicia is a very talented P user on slayers, and the only other P that competes with him on that team is Frozen. I think there's a fairly large difference in skill between the two, and I think when Slayers chooses to send out a P user, it will most often be Alicia. And when he does come out, he's going to be a monster to take down. Unfortunately, because he's the lone strong P user that we know of on Slayers, all the teams that have prepared P snipers to take out the likes of MC will send them out against Alicia. However, I have faith he'll be able to survive long enough to make this a valuable 5 point investment. 8 DongRaeGu + Show Spoiler +This was the most difficult pick to justify for me, but DRG is a monstrously good player on team MVP, and undeniably their ace. Group A is a very difficult group with the Slayers powerhouse, the underperforming oGs superstars, the MKP/Polt terran threat from Prime, and even a ticking time-bomb in the high salary TSL that has shown dissapointing results but clearly have talent in PuMa and aLive and the former glory of FD and sSKS. Against that competition I expect DRG to have to come out for MVP and bring it home for them often, something I have absolute confidence he'll be able to pull off. He'll be a guy that breaks lot of streaks in a difficult group, and when he wins he finishes off the other team to get the ace point (no -1 for losing, but +1 from making an appearance). 4 GuMiho + Show Spoiler + GuMiho is somebody a lot of people think is a weak player, but he seems the complete opposite to me. His play has been sloppy at times, but that's because he was the strongest Random user in the world for a while; you've gotta have balls, intelligence, and a lot of confidence in yourself to even attempt to compete at a professional level using random. And, like it or not, he's been fairly successful doing it. Now that he's focusing on Terran I think we'll see even greater things and more refined play from GuMiho, and since he's playing on a team that has sC[fOu] for an ace, no team is going to want to send out their strongest T-sniper to take him down. That adds even more value to this pick for me, and I expect a lot from him. 1 Hero + Show Spoiler + Hero was present last GSTL, but didn't seem that impressive. However, he is practicing with oGs, and from what I hear HuK has been singing his praises. It's possible he's made even more improvements and he's hungry to build a name for himself in this team league. If oGs is as confident in him as it seems, he'll get sent out early and often. He's talented enough to make it through the Code A qualifiers, a feat no FXO player was able to do. And who did he have to beat in the final round to qualify? None other than DRG. I didn't see the FXO stream of that match, but I saw the last 10 minutes or so of game 2; and let me say I am impressed (think warping 5 sentry from a proxy pylon to FF a large group of roaches as they retreat, allowing your blink stalkers to clean up about 30 supply of Z). Smart player, currently fairly unknown, but he'll definitely have the opportunity to make a name for himself here, and he's got the talent to do it. Also, like gumiho, Hero's going to be dodging the strongest P-sniper simply because MC is the ace for oGs. I wish I was confident in another 1point pick that would get bumped in value in the first couple weeks so that I could trade for him the week he plays, but I'll play it safe and just have this guy sitting on my opening roster. 1 IMHappy + Show Spoiler + This guy is highly ranked on the korean ladder (top20 GM), highly spoken of by the coach (that likes to let his lesser known players get an opportunity to show what they're made of), and being sent out first against [fOu] (imo a fairly weak team with only strong terrans, a matchup IMHappy has to be good at if he's IMMVP's practice partner). He'll likely see a lot of play this season, and likely has the talent to take more than a couple wins. Also, he's on team IM, so whenever IM wins against a weak team in their group this guy gives me another bench point. 5 July + Show Spoiler + I think July is one of the best Z users in the world right now. He plays very fast, has excellent mechanics, constantly scouts for weakness, looks for opportunities to close out the game, and isn't afraid to do it. He executes almost perfectly every time, he has a lot of competitive experience from his BW days (you know he won a golden mouse right? you know he was monstrous at BW too, right?) so nerves will not get to him. July will deliver. And since these games are going to be played in July, the coach doesn't want to have to deal with pissed off fans if ST loses a series without their opponents having to go through July first (for those who don't know JulyZerg saw most of his BW success in the month of July) This big name will play a lot, and with another very strong Z user in ST_Curious to practice ZvZ with, he may not have as big a weakness as some people think. He'll rack in points, I'm sure of it. To top it off, he has a high enough point value to trade for known talent when august rolls around and the games in group B slow down and he stops getting me bench points. 1 Tiger + Show Spoiler + Originally I had CreatorPrime in this slot which left me with a 4-4 split of Group A and B players. However, I really wanted a 1-pointer from ST since I expect them to go 4-1 in their group and some underrated talent to make a debut and rack up some wins. I just couldn't find a player that fit the description. But when ST announced that Tiger won the in-house competition for which player gets to 4-0 the underprepared foreign team FXO, I made a snap decision and switched out creator for my new lucky charm. Don't let me down Tiger, I'm counting on your korean pride to send those amateur foreign "pros" packing. And if you do well enough I may not trade you for creator or soccer around week 6. 3 Younghwa (captain) + Show Spoiler + One of two P users with names on the IM roster, and in my opinion the better of the two. He's talented enough to take games off some of the most fearsome competition and he's probably going to be sent out whenever IM chooses to send out a P user. He's holding my captain flag because I think he'll do well enough this season to consistently rack up points and win tiebreaks against most of the aces we have to choose from. Also, constant bench points is another factor that would make me hesitant to trade him. My high investment players like DRG, Alicia, July, and GuMiho might have to get changed around based off how it's going, but I'm confident Yonghwa will be a successful workhorse all season. 8 Incredible Miracle + Show Spoiler + IM may not be able to beat such a deep and talented team as slayers, and they did lose to ST in an earlier GSTL season. But let's face facts: slayers, ogs, and MVP are in a more difficult group. The wins they get are likely going to be 4-2 or 4-3. IM has monstrous talent: these are the guys nestea, losira, and IMMVP practice with. They're so good because of who they have to practice with, who they get support from on their team, and who helps them refine their builds. IM has sent out no-names in the past that have 3-killed or all-killed weaker teams like ZeNeX (players like yonghwa and seed), and with a lot of hype behind players like IMHappy from the IM coach himself, it's going to be repeated in the weak group B. I'm expecting a lot of 4-0s and 4-1s this season, and I'll be happy to restrict the options I have for players by letting this team bring me the big points. Anti Team + Show Spoiler + There's a lot of questions about how the anti-team works on this thread. Let me explain it: Take that player, put them on your main team. How many points did that player get you? (+1 for being sent out to play, -1 for losing: aka not finishing off the opposing team, +2 points for every win, +1 or +2 for breaking a 2- or 3-game streak, +1 if their team wins a series). So, essentially, the +1 for being sent out to play and the -1 for losing cancel eachother out, except in instances where that player finishes off a team. Let's just say, 0 points for being sent out, 0 points for losing a game, +1 point if they are the player that wins the last game in the series, and it works out to the same thing. So, if you have an Ace on your anti-team, and they carry their team to victory, you get -1 for them finishing off a team, -1 or -2 if they break a 2- or 3-game streak, -2 for every game they won, and another -1 because their team won the series. I've kept all that scoring in mind when I chose my anti-team. 4 Maka + Show Spoiler + Maka plays T for Prime, and is completely overshadowed by MKP and Polt. I can't think of any reason why the coach would send him out over his sure talent and his up and comers like creator. Even if Maka does get sent out, he's a weak, weak player. I don't imagine he'll take even a single game for Prime. Thanks retardtosis archon for the hype over this player, who's always been less than impressive. I think you gave my antiteam a great pick here. He's playing for Prime, so I don't expect to get more than a single anti-bench point for using this player on my antiteam either. 3 Sheth + Show Spoiler + I know a lot of people have a lot of faith in Sheth, and I'm cheering for him too. But I'm being realistic; players like idra and jinro aren't reliable against nameless korean players on Proteams, and even though I think Sheth is more talented than those two he doesn't have the experience and hasn't put in the hours of practice necessary to compete with the guys that have been doing this for a living for 6+ months already. I'm certain he won't get me even a single anti-bench point. He's a risky pick though, because playing for FXO means that if anybody wins, they're likely going to be breaking a streak and that single win is worth 3 or 4 points. But I have faith that FXO isn't ready for this competition yet; if they stay in korea for a while and practice as hard as the korean teams do the situation would be different. Believe me when I say I'll be happy when I can confidently put a player like Sheth on my main team, but for now, sorry man T T 6 Trickster + Show Spoiler + More retardtosis archon hype for this uninspiring player. He played bw, was good at bw, is good at SC2, but it's just not enough. I don't think he can compete with the current talent out there. He's getting up there in age, and while I don't think that makes a big difference, I do think a persons hunger for success fades after time and affects their motivation. I think I read a comment somewhere that said TSL doesn't have a strict practice schedule, another factor that makes me have less faith in their players. I don't think TSL will do well in Group A, and any success they do have will be on the shoulders of PuMa and aLive. I hope you don't choose this season to prove me wrong. I don't think TSL will win more than a single series in group A either, so his team won't rack me up a lot of anti-bench points. So that's my team, and my (lengthy) rational behind it. Anybody willing to offer criticism? (I'm looking at you guys, the silent ones that have been playing the BW fantasy pools for years and are just sitting there laughing while people put cella on their team over IMHappy) And again, for the record, I hope our foreign talent makes me regret having doubts about them. A lot of them are truly brilliant players and very deserving of the respect they get. I hope more teams will go to Korea to practice and compete in the future, and as always, I wish them the best of luck. I'm cheering for you guys, even though I'm not betting on you. Nice reasoning, our teams are similar, especially the anti-team which is identic. I don't know why more people haven't put Sheth on their anti-team, but I guess it's because they don't want to bet against a foreigner. I also think zerg is the hardest race to come to korea with because they are the weakest to timing attacks which I believe the koreans are masters of. He might (hopefully!) win a game or two but then again I believe FXO won't win any matches so he won't get any extra points for team wins. I'm not a hater by any means, I would love for Sheth and FXO to prove me wrong but I just don't see it happening with as little preparation as they've had. Sheth also won't play in the first week since he just arrived which is an added bonus. I'm not sure about your hero pick, mostly because oGs has so many good players so who knows how much he'll get to play. But since you already have Happy and Tiger I can only see switching him for Soccer or maybe Creator. I also don't know how much July is going to play. He just got back from DH so he might not play in the first round, then he'll be gone for NASL finals and be back just a couple of days before they play another round. If I was confident he would be available I would also pick him but as it is I prefer players that are more likely to play every week. In my opinion the biggest mistake people make is not thinking which players a player could potentially be up against. It's quite obvious the 2nd division is much weaker so I've tried to pick strong players from those teams since they will play nsh and FXO (especially those two) which should give them good chances of getting easier kills. For the same reason I believe fOu is a better team pick for 4 points as opposed to MVP, but I still haven't seen anyone pick fOu whereas MVP is a very common pick. My team + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Icectar
United States99 Posts
anyways heres my lineup Team + Show Spoiler + Reasoning + Show Spoiler + Alicia- one of the best tosses out there besides MC, top toss for SlayerS, leadoff for them, great "bang for buck"BBoongBBoong-needed a cheap zerg lol, but the guy isn't half bad, can get a 2 kill like in May GSTL GuineaPig-random, so always valuable in team matches, idk how well he'll do against Ogs and SlayerS, but he can rack up points.GuMiho-used to be random, now terran, pretty boss in team matches, can pull off 3 killsIMHappy-considered ogsHero here, idk whose better, but Happy is a lock for leading off for IM in the 1st week. MMA-MMA, what else is there to say? only reason why i didn't have him captain was just in case things don't go to plan, then i can recoup some value although i don't see that happening lolTheStC-a risky pick since ogs has a bunch of people, but i heard he's really good and really hyped since he comes back from military, so hopefully ogs will showcase him :DYounghwa-guys boss at team matches, can 3 kill people, works hard, so yahStarTale-I wanted IM so bad, but i didn't want to compromise some people lol. considered SlayerS, but they play MVP and OGS. Startale plays slightly weaker opponents. I just hope they don't get smashed by IM in week 10. Choya-he's a coach, heard he's a cheesy player, so he won't play that much/isn't very good, so on my anti-teamMaka-considered FruitDealer here, realized i'll be screwed over if he wakes up and plays well. Maka is overshadowed by MarineKing and Polt, so probably won't get much playing time.Trickster-heard he used to be pretty good, but now is ehh. hope he doesn't wake up during this tourney....Well, thats my analysis. Some questions i'll like to be answered: Should I have taken IM and downgraded some players? Should MMA be captain? Any glaring errors i had? Comments appreciated :D | ||
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Exiledz
United States3 Posts
Main Team 5 Alicia (captain)3 Check1 HuK4 Min9 MMA3 RevivaL2 Taeja3 Younghwa6 SlayerS Anti Team 4 Genius5 Lyn4 ThorZaINWish I didn't have to pick Thorzain on my Anti-team! | ||
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nicknt
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On June 23 2011 14:04 Exiledz wrote: Light-Exiledz Main Team 5 Alicia (captain)3 Check1 HuK4 Min9 MMA3 RevivaL2 Taeja3 Younghwa6 SlayerS Anti Team 4 Genius5 Lyn4 ThorZaINWish I didn't have to pick Thorzain on my Anti-team! You can still re-submit your team until the counter hits 00.00.00 | ||
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SolonTLG
United States299 Posts
Main Team 1 Cezanne1 Creator8 DongRaeGu (captain)1 HuK8 LosirA8 MarineKing1 Nuclear2 PuMa6 SlayerS Anti Team 5 Lyn4 NaNiwa4 ThorZaINI went with the sharks and minnows approach. Since you get points for appearances, I wanted to make sure that my top players would "always" appear, thus the three 8 point players. Not sure if this strategy will work, but I am curious! GLHF!!! | ||
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Teoyaomqui
Sweden326 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:57 Icectar wrote: my mind is blowing right now lol, i made like 20 switches in the space of 24 hours haha. anyways heres my lineup Team + Show Spoiler + Reasoning + Show Spoiler + Alicia- one of the best tosses out there besides MC, top toss for SlayerS, leadoff for them, great "bang for buck"BBoongBBoong-needed a cheap zerg lol, but the guy isn't half bad, can get a 2 kill like in May GSTLGuineaPig-random, so always valuable in team matches, idk how well he'll do against Ogs and SlayerS, but he can rack up points.GuMiho-used to be random, now terran, pretty boss in team matches, can pull off 3 killsIMHappy-considered ogsHero here, idk whose better, but Happy is a lock for leading off for IM in the 1st week. MMA-MMA, what else is there to say? only reason why i didn't have him captain was just in case things don't go to plan, then i can recoup some value although i don't see that happening lolTheStC-a risky pick since ogs has a bunch of people, but i heard he's really good and really hyped since he comes back from military, so hopefully ogs will showcase him :DYounghwa-guys boss at team matches, can 3 kill people, works hard, so yahStarTale-I wanted IM so bad, but i didn't want to compromise some people lol. considered SlayerS, but they play MVP and OGS. Startale plays slightly weaker opponents. I just hope they don't get smashed by IM in week 10. Choya-he's a coach, heard he's a cheesy player, so he won't play that much/isn't very good, so on my anti-teamMaka-considered FruitDealer here, realized i'll be screwed over if he wakes up and plays well. Maka is overshadowed by MarineKing and Polt, so probably won't get much playing time.Trickster-heard he used to be pretty good, but now is ehh. hope he doesn't wake up during this tourney....Well, thats my analysis. Some questions i'll like to be answered: Should I have taken IM and downgraded some players? Should MMA be captain? Any glaring errors i had? Comments appreciated :D Well, IM will probably win the 2nd division, also they have 3 great players and play relatively weak teams which mean they might win 4-0, 4-1, 4-2 which gives a fair amount of points so if you can spare the points IM is a good choice. That being said I also have ST so it all depends how much you want to spend on team vs players. I wouldn't make MMA captain if I was you, this way you could (maybe) trade him for a F.U player when they start playing. Since the F.U players will go up in price having all their matches yet to play MMA will likely be one of few players you can trade for naniwa/thorzain etc. I don't like Choya on the anti-team because he is, I believe, the best protoss on fOu (which should ensure him some playing time) and he did qualify for code A which means he's got some skills. I would prefer Check or Sheth if you want a player for 3 points, Check haven't been good in a long time and plays in the tougher division, Sheth will miss the first match and well, he's a foreigner vs koreans, also his team won't win many matches which will save you some of the team win points. | ||
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Icectar
United States99 Posts
 + Show Spoiler + why do i even play fantasy sports........lol | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
Why isn't he pickable? | ||
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vicious.e0
Canada31 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:18 Teoyaomqui wrote: Nice reasoning, our teams are similar...I'm not sure about your oGshero pick... I also don't know how much July is going to play. He just got back from DH so he might not play in the first round, then he'll be gone for NASL finals and be back just a couple of days before they play another round. If I was confident he would be available I would also pick him but as it is I prefer players that are more likely to play every week. damn man, you're almost convincing me to switch july out for squirtle and upgrade oGsHero to PuMa. It seems like July and Squirtle are used similarly by ST: they get sent out early to pick off the weaker players that get sent out first, or saved for an ace situation. Judging from who got sent out in what order from the GSTL liquipedia, ST seems to have a triple-ace thing going on, similar to IM, with July, Squirtle, and Bomber (though their names aren't nearly as big as the IM stars). I just can't recall what his play looked like, and have a hard time trusting him over July. PuMa plays for TSL, so he likely won't get me many (if any at all) bench points, but he's taken down some big names and seems like he's got some support on this thread. I don't think I've ever seen him play, so I can't make any decisions based off what I know about his mechanics or style though. Or I could go for a 2-6 split (and start trading towards 5-3 or 6-2 around week 5) with Puzzle from team ZeNeX. But again, he's on a team that's not going to do well in that division, and the ZeNeX schedule of w2-FXO, w3-IM, w4-ST,w6-[fOu] makes me hesitant about him; he probably won't even need to get played against FXO (and if he's as respected in the korean scene as it sounds like, I don't think they'll show any of the build orders he's been practicing in a match against FXO). When it comes to IM, ST, and even [fOu] I don't think he'll survive long enough to justify the no bench points trade-off. So I don't expect him to have any trade value at week 6, and you wouldn't even want to trade him at week 6 because [fOu] and NSH are his best shot at scoring points. This little fantasy pool man.... so damn complex ; ) I just want to stop thinking about it already... I'm going to stick with the July/oGsHero picks... if for nothing else than to cheer harder for a bw idol and the guy who crushed DRGs goals of qualifying for GSL (which I simultaneously hate and respect him for; I want to see more DRG games). GL guys, this thread is just distracting me at this point, and starting to piss me off - - We'll see how the team does after a couple weeks. | ||
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asdfiprod
United States34 Posts
Main Team 7 aLive1 Cella1 HuK4 Maka4 NaDa3 RainBOw7 sC (captain)4 ThorZaIN4 MVP Anti Team 6 Leenock5 Lyn2 QxcLol. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
A) The captain should be a dependable low-cost player who is near-guaranteed to have a positive record by the end of the season. B) Aces should be avoided unless there is good reason to believe they will be used frequently. C) Prior GSTL success indicates future GSTL success. D) Invest over several teams that will have winning records/pick players guaranteed to play on weaker teams. E) A team composed of mostly middle-tier players is the most stable and prone to getting the most wins. F) Anti-team choices should be high-cost players with no real sniper potential and middling success. They should also be on teams with projected losing records. G) Check the schedules. Check the schedules. Check the schedules. H) Incredible Miracle and StarTale will make it out of the Venus Group. Pow Right In The Kisser! Captain: Younghwa (Incredible Miracle)+ Show Spoiler + He is the steal of this tournament. Younghwa is 7-2 in GSTL history, an excellent PvP sniper, and strong in all three matchups. Also consider that IM has the easiest schedule out of all the real contenders: the only threat in Group B is Startale, who they face in the last week of the tournament. So don’t expect Losira, MvP, or Nestea in the booth unless things get really desperate. Younghwa should get his games and win them. Taeja (Slayers)+ Show Spoiler + With the stomping MMA received in the Super Tournament final, I feel like his early-game weakness is now obvious and teams will prep to take him out with timing pushes. Just like his teammate Taeja also delivers in the team league and has posted solid results in the Clash of the Houses/iCCup Korean Weekly (the latter results are skewed due to Taeja not showing up to his matches). If Alicia or Frozen fall, expect him to pick up the slack. Taeja knows how to ride the momentum of a win and turn it into a streak as well. viOlet (MVP)+ Show Spoiler + DRG will be the player sent out when the chips are down, but Violet has quietly established himself as a great prodigy. His excellent ZvZ will (probably) earn him the role of Zerg sniper but his other matchups are fairly good as well, and there is no shame in losing to MVP and Ryung. With MVP player selection is always a question of the opponent: HwangSin, Violet, Keen, GuineaPig, Noblesse, and Genius compose one of the most flexible rosters in the team league. I believe my gamble will pay off and Violet will be sent out enough to show his skill. CoCa (ZeNEX)+ Show Spoiler + Coca or Puzzle? Coca or Puzzle? Coca has a losing record but those losses have come against very solid players like Taeja, Nada, and Keen (all terrans come to think of it). Meanwhile his ZvP has remained sharp and should prove beneficial against Startale (Squirtle, Ace), FXO (Twilight, Optikzero, etc.) and HoSeo (San, Tassadar, Sage). Puzzle dominated MVP and top-tier players in the ZOTAC Team Invitational and then disappeared. I've heard he's played well in the iCCup Weekly and is a top-tier Protoss, but frankly I won't believe it until I see it. I'm going with CoCa, at least until I see the results of ZeNEX's first match. Then I might switch him out for Puzzle. TheStC (Old Generations)+ Show Spoiler + On paper he looks absolutely fantastic: 75% winrate and only loses consistently to post-graduation Polt, which lumps him in with everybody these days. Due to his military service he could only participate in online events, where he still performed admirably and beat everyone short of the top players. Cezanne and the oGs coach would be fools if they didn't let him participate in the GSTL. Squirtle (StarTale)+ Show Spoiler + StarTale is either going to be the top dog of the Venus Group or close to it. It's just a matter of choosing who to play. Ace is slumping right now in the Korean scene (or returned to his prior position). Virus continues to be a solid but a somewhat mediocre terran. Bomber will never come out unless ST is desperate or they face IM in week 10. July is dependable but will probably function as the puppet ace for the first four matches. That leaves Squirtle as the (mostly) dependable middle player. Like Ace he's been in a slump for some time, but his losses were against players with great vP (SuperNoVa, CoCa, and MarineKing). I don't think those losses are any indication of a drop in talent. However, I'm keeping an eye on GuMiho and if his dedication to Terran plays off I will switch.aLive (TSL)+ Show Spoiler + TSL is not a good team for this type of competition. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Sangho are neither clutch players nor consistently good ones, and Puma hasn't matured into ace material. In the past TSL looked to aLive to pull them out of trouble, and he delivered for the most part. 8-3 in team league games over three seasons and a recent win in the iCCup Korean Weekly suggest he is in prime form to bear the burden again. This will only encourage his team to use him more and he should be up to the task. Polt (Prime.WE)+ Show Spoiler + I believe in OptimusPrime. Polt's style is not pretty or remarkable but that's irrelevant. He doesn't crack under pressure, he has monstrous TvP, he has performed well in all matchups since Season 2, and he plays for a relatively weak team with only one real ace and sniper (MarineKing and Maka respectively). With his recent success he has shown the calm and solid decision-making that MarineKing lacks, and Prime will be confident enough to send him in as the secondary boss. Hopefully they take advantage of his TvP prowess instead of brazenly shoving him out there like in past GSTLs. Will he actually win in the one tournament format he hasn't proven himself in? Let's find out. Team: StarTale + Show Spoiler + If you want to invest in team success, look to Group B. You have Incredible Miracle and StarTale and...everyone else. Unfortunately the gods of SC2 decided that oGs, SlayerS, MVP, Prime, and TSL should slaughter each other in the Jupiter Group. Even thought SlayerS should come out on top of that group, they won’t be winning 4-0 or 4-1 every time. It’s highly probable with the weekly format that MVP, Prime, or oGs will beat them with superior preparation. Since points only accumulate for the regular season Incredible Miracle may be an over-commitment unless they sweep everyone in their way. I'm confident that although both teams will win the Venus Group the format will allow their opponents to form plans and take games off them effectively, making the point difference between IM and ST small. Anti-Team HongUn (Prime.WE)+ Show Spoiler + His greatest success was during Open Seasons 1 and 3 but afterwards he seemingly faded into obscurity. With Polt and MarineKing as aces, Creator the new prodigy on the block, and Maka as the sniper HongUn seems to have no opportunity to play. It doesn't help that Prime likes to put him in the worst matchup over and over. Hey guys, when your player is 0-7 in PvP it might be a good idea not use him as your starter. FruitDealer (TSL)+ Show Spoiler + He is an amazing player when he can gain composure and channel his chaotic playstyle. It happens rarely in the GSL and never seems to happen in team league. There's always the danger Fruitdealer takes this seriously and wrecks everyone's anti-team. But would you bank on a 0-3 GSTL record and a possible turn of fortune? SangHo (TSL)+ Show Spoiler + Let's take a stab at another TSL member, shall we? What exactly has Tester done in the last few months? Beaten MMA in his worst matchup? Defeated a Zerg who is 7-21 in tournament matches excluding the CotH: IM event? Crushed a slumping Zenio, an ineffectual Check, and his own teammate Clide? By no means is Killer bad. 50% in the GSL is pretty good. The problem is he is adept at one matchup, PvZ, and there aren't many opportunities to exercise that on the road ahead. TSL needs to hope Check, Min, Zenio, hero, and ViOlet are put out as potential victims for Killer to get sure victories. But with a week to prepare I don't they will be making such obvious mistakes. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
Sorry MOoNan but I do hope you get me a lot of points T_T Tried to pick people on my anti who I expect to play but hope/expect to lose. | ||
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