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MLG Columbus Spoiler. Idra Article! - Page 6

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ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
June 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#101
Imagine if Idra's identical twin was playing terran there.

It would have been a race to see who GG'd first.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 06 2011 05:45 GMT
#102
day9's reaction is honestly perfect

10/10 casting day9
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
June 06 2011 05:45 GMT
#103
Boxer and Fantasy needs to give Idra lessons on GG timing.
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
June 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#104
I love you Idra stay strong you will win the next MLG!!!
Idra White Ra Sheth DRG SaSe Thorzain GOGO!
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
June 06 2011 05:47 GMT
#105
Idra really must stop this thing of giving up before he should, he will never be succesful enough if he keeps thinking this way, really. What does GL mean?? GOOD LUCK!! all champions must have it to become champions, is the factor that you cant control over the things you do, you cant give up on something you estimate you will lose just because your estimation is that, then why Idra does competes on MLG?? to not to win?? with that mindset he shouldnt be playing SC2 trying to be the best in the world, cuz its clear he will never become it thinking like that.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
June 06 2011 05:47 GMT
#106
Godamnit IdrA... Godamnit...
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 05:52:19
June 06 2011 05:49 GMT
#107
I can't decide whether the best bit about the video is MMA's reaction to IdrA leaving or Day[9] and Wheat's stunned silence for aaaages after the game.

Edit: Got it. The exact moment where Day[9] looks up from his screen with his mouth hanging open. Priceless.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
June 06 2011 05:49 GMT
#108
On June 06 2011 14:47 Jacopana wrote:
Idra really must stop this thing of giving up before he should, he will never be succesful enough if he keeps thinking this way, really. What does GL mean?? GOOD LUCK!! all champions must have it to become champions, is the factor that you cant control over the things you do, you cant give up on something you estimate you will lose just because your estimation is that, then why Idra does competes on MLG?? to not to win?? with that mindset he shouldnt be playing SC2 trying to be the best in the world, cuz its clear he will never become it thinking like that.

Yeah this actually... Avid fan but it's starting to hurt ones feelings when it feels like IdrA loses and gives up his games rather than his opponents purely outclassing or outplaying him... as a fan you just get sad after a while and don't want to get your hopes up to high
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 06 2011 05:51 GMT
#109
Wait, so what does "cool image" mean? I still don't get why they used that phrase...could someone explain?
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
June 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#110
That game produced two best quotes of SC2 history

MMA: y gg, not understand

Day9: It is been a long life struggle for me to shut up

There is always a drama when Idra is involved.
Hi!
azr
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway144 Posts
June 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#111
On June 06 2011 13:59 Zhyq wrote:
Really guys? You really argue that it was lack of mental strength that led IdrA to those loses? I would strongly suggest it was that exact mental strength that shined. It is remarkable to see a player who is able to foresee 5-6 moves ahead and -know- whether (under perfect play from both sides) he will win or lose.

As said earlier, if MMA had the OC at the gold base up and running, he'd have another round of reinforcements which would defeat IdrA. In a scenario that MMA plays perfect and IdrA plays perfect as well, after that last battle, IdrA loses. Why wait it out when you know the outcome?

As far as the MC games are concerned, again IdrA would lose 3 out of 4 of them eventually (again given no mistakes from MC). However, IdrA could have easily won game 4 if he had teched a bit better, rather than remaining stuck with hydra/roach/corruptor forever. That you can fault him on.

Now, one can say that IdrA was tired and didn't make proper decisions as far as his STRATEGY was concerned, and indeed I believe that this was the case. Still, I feel IdrA is not being appreciated for his greatest strength, that is, his ability to read the game flow.

It is a feat of extremely high intelligence to be able to know if you've lost 10 minutes before you do, and that should be recognized rather than criticized.


The answer to that question is idra has now lost two games in important tournaments, which he would have won, if he had not had this imaginary strength that you are claiming he has.
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 05:55:25
June 06 2011 05:55 GMT
#112
On June 06 2011 14:24 BaronFel wrote:
For koreans, "cool" means something along the lines of "I don't really care" attitude. Like if you get blown off and you go "whatever" and act like is no big deal, that's being cool.


It already has been explained in this thread Z3kk if u read it.
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
June 06 2011 05:55 GMT
#113
On June 06 2011 14:49 Krehlmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:47 Jacopana wrote:
Idra really must stop this thing of giving up before he should, he will never be succesful enough if he keeps thinking this way, really. What does GL mean?? GOOD LUCK!! all champions must have it to become champions, is the factor that you cant control over the things you do, you cant give up on something you estimate you will lose just because your estimation is that, then why Idra does competes on MLG?? to not to win?? with that mindset he shouldnt be playing SC2 trying to be the best in the world, cuz its clear he will never become it thinking like that.

Yeah this actually... Avid fan but it's starting to hurt ones feelings when it feels like IdrA loses and gives up his games rather than his opponents purely outclassing or outplaying him... as a fan you just get sad after a while and don't want to get your hopes up to high


Yeah man, at this point, he is a StarCraft personality, he has tons of fans, and it hurts.
Idra..... you have the worst GG timing!
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 06:00:07
June 06 2011 05:57 GMT
#114
On June 06 2011 14:55 FlamingTurd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:24 BaronFel wrote:
For koreans, "cool" means something along the lines of "I don't really care" attitude. Like if you get blown off and you go "whatever" and act like is no big deal, that's being cool.


It already has been explained in this thread Z3kk if u read it.


Sorry. Which page was it? I skimmed through all 6 pages, and didn't see it.

Whoops! Just ctrl+f "baron" on every page, and saw it on page 4. Sorry! I probably skipped it because it was a small comment under the flash picture

Thanks~

Edit: and also, I remember someone saying that it's important after the game has been clearly lost to stay in it for at least a little bit, and just calm yourself down. Not necessarily bad gg timing (i.e. draw it out excessively), but to just cool down, think for a bit, and then type out the gg. In Idra's case, it would have saved him the games, but that's sort of an exception; the point is that he really got mentally screwed over, and just pausing for a bit could have helped a lot! ><
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Drae
Profile Joined December 2010
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 06:17:26
June 06 2011 06:00 GMT
#115
On June 06 2011 13:33 jalstar wrote:IdrA said he would have been dead if MMA had a round of marines coming, which he would have if he hadn't killed his OC. At least that's what I remember reading. Looking at the VOD Idra only had a small amount of mutas and zerglings, and looks like he would have been dead if MMA had been rallying marines to his base.


4 base (including one gold) vs 1 base (barely) with MMA having mined out his main and almost mined out his nat. Idra knows the third is not up and would know the timings on the main and nat.
71 drones vs 60 SCVs
16 muta and 18 lings vs 7 tanks and 20 rines.

All bar a few rines are all at home, Idra is going to kill all the tanks with muta and deny the third with lings. The drop at Idra's nat is nothing, 4 rines, and he has such an eco advantage the natural doesnt matter anyway. Idra has 16 lings and 5 Muta in production. Idra has resources banked, with the next round of inject larvae he's going to have a big army advantage.

Idra had the game won, and had enough info to know this. He just made a bad call, which just happens sometimes I guess, particularly under the high pressure of being on that sort of stage. It's a real shame, I'm a huge fan and I think he could have won the whole tournament.


DaRockLobstah
Profile Joined June 2011
30 Posts
June 06 2011 06:02 GMT
#116
god, why are there tournament seeds then, why are there rankings? in a perfect situation where everyone plays perfectly all the time, the number one guy always win. then why do we have tournaments greg, why don't we just hand out trophies and save ourselves the trouble of putting an event together? because shit happens, because things are not perfect, things have a way of going unexpectedly, for better or for worse. you've lost to worse players when you're ahead, that's why you no gg rage quit. well guess what, it happens to other people too...my god
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
June 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#117
I think he saw his expo with no drones (they were in the gas geyser), thinking he had lost them all to that drop--couple this with the fact that MMA took the gold (he didn't know it got destroyed), and he gg'd out. Of course he should have stayed after cleaning up those marines, he could have done substantial damage, but I think IdrA just gets mad and cbf playing at that point. He definitely needs to calm down, it's his biggest problem atm.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
June 06 2011 06:04 GMT
#118
On June 06 2011 14:53 azr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:59 Zhyq wrote:
Really guys? You really argue that it was lack of mental strength that led IdrA to those loses? I would strongly suggest it was that exact mental strength that shined. It is remarkable to see a player who is able to foresee 5-6 moves ahead and -know- whether (under perfect play from both sides) he will win or lose.

As said earlier, if MMA had the OC at the gold base up and running, he'd have another round of reinforcements which would defeat IdrA. In a scenario that MMA plays perfect and IdrA plays perfect as well, after that last battle, IdrA loses. Why wait it out when you know the outcome?

As far as the MC games are concerned, again IdrA would lose 3 out of 4 of them eventually (again given no mistakes from MC). However, IdrA could have easily won game 4 if he had teched a bit better, rather than remaining stuck with hydra/roach/corruptor forever. That you can fault him on.

Now, one can say that IdrA was tired and didn't make proper decisions as far as his STRATEGY was concerned, and indeed I believe that this was the case. Still, I feel IdrA is not being appreciated for his greatest strength, that is, his ability to read the game flow.

It is a feat of extremely high intelligence to be able to know if you've lost 10 minutes before you do, and that should be recognized rather than criticized.


The answer to that question is idra has now lost two games in important tournaments, which he would have won, if he had not had this imaginary strength that you are claiming he has.


Boy you just got owned.

No one can defend this action by IdrA. It's that simple. We can understand, but there is no empiric argument for it.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 06 2011 06:08 GMT
#119
On June 06 2011 14:27 yrag89 wrote:
Cheers all around.....and then silences..........

Yeah they must have thought MMA typed the gg, and then it became a oh wait....
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
June 06 2011 06:09 GMT
#120
If you watch the GSL, Koreans always fight to the bitter end (especially fantasy), sad to say I've yet to see idra duking it out until every last fighting unit was eliminated. Please Idra you've got to get stronger
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