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Zhyq
United Kingdom117 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:22 DannyJ wrote: Sorry, but that bold sentence doesn't seem kinda nuts to you? I'll dare to fix that sentence on his behalf: 'IdrA left because he had WRONG information about what MMA had' | ||
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:18 Mailing wrote: WE know this. IdrA did not. He thought MMA was taking his 4th gold base and had a 3 base eonomy and another round of marines on the way while he had 0 banes. IdrA left because he didn't know what mma had. If he knew he had enough muta left to keep going he would have. that is bs for idra though. i mean how can u assess the situation within 2 seconds and call gg? He must've saw his natural and it looked as if that drop killed all the drones, infact the drones were stacked in the gas geyser. prompting him to gg. but even if MMA had another round of marines on the way he had sufficient bases to repel the attack. He didn't even play it out for the fans watching the match. Part of you playing is to win, but the other part is to atleast give an entertaining game for YOUR FANS. buuuuuuuut ultimately why would you gg so soon when you can stand a chance. I mean a one in a million chance could happen like MMA misclicked into banelings or walked into burrowed banes. Why would you have the mentality of 'hes good, he must not be making mistakes'? | ||
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Qaz
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
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Misoza
Australia571 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9027 Posts
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:06 Mailing wrote: IdrA assumes players like MMA don't kill their own orbital or MC let a nydus pop in his main next to a probe. This is not arrogance. He just has this false idea that SC2 koreans are as good as their BW counterparts when in truth is that the koreans make a shit ton of mistakes in SC2 that he could abuse. It's more humble than arrogant to assume your opponent doesn't do stupid shit. I'd argue it's incredibly arrogant to assume your opponent will never make mistakes firstly because it's completely stupid when you think about how life actually works. Nobody is perfect and you have to be completely naive to think that you can expect perfection from people all the time in a complicated task like SC2, even from the best. But mostly it seems ridiculously arrogant because it indicates that Idra feels like it's not worth his time to play people that don't play perfectly, an indication that he feels that he should be included as one of those perfect players. Which is stupid when you consider the fact that the reason he's behind is because he made some mistake at some point. Ultimately, I feel like Idra is not stupid enough to actually think that even the best pros play perfectly all the time, but it's instead a reflection of trying to seem perfect himself by saying that he only plays against inhuman, perfect gods of starcraft. | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:24 BaronFel wrote: For koreans, "cool" means something along the lines of "I don't really care" attitude. Like if you get blown off and you go "whatever" and act like is no big deal, that's being cool. yup and along that line I would like to correct the mistranslation from the event MMA never said anything about 'being positive' This is what MMA actually said but lost in translation 'From this game, I hope Idra is able to learn some perseverance/fortitude' | ||
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:18 Mailing wrote: WE know this. IdrA did not. He thought MMA was taking his 4th gold base and had a 3 base eonomy and another round of marines on the way while he had 0 banes. IdrA left because he didn't know what mma had. If he knew he had enough muta left to keep going he would have. Well duh, then Why did he leave when he didn't know what mma had? Why not find out? There is zero excuse for this, really. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:29 Garnet wrote: The fact that MMA destroyed his own CC made that situation even more complex. I was laughing and at the same time thinking what's wrong with you. Was amazing. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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AKspartan
United States126 Posts
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:33 Tachion wrote: Idra is becoming more and more mentally fragile the more tournaments I see. How many more games is he gonna premature gg? How many more times is he just gonna go majorly on tilt like in the series vs MC? He's his own worst enemy, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to see him as a major contender ;/ Maybe he needs to find a sports psychologist practice partner(hohoho). someone was offering idra professional psychology lessons for $300/hr in the LR thread cruel but... lol  | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:31 Emporio wrote: I'd argue it's incredibly arrogant to assume your opponent will never make mistakes firstly because it's completely stupid when you think about how life actually works. Nobody is perfect and you have to be completely naive to think that you can expect perfection from people all the time in a complicated task like SC2, even from the best. But mostly it seems ridiculously arrogant because it indicates that Idra feels like it's not worth his time to play people that don't play perfectly, an indication that he feels that he should be included as one of those perfect players. Which is stupid when you consider the fact that the reason he's behind is because he made some mistake at some point. Ultimately, I feel like Idra is not stupid enough to actually think that even the best pros play perfectly all the time, but it's instead a reflection of trying to seem perfect himself by saying that he only plays against inhuman, perfect gods of starcraft. How on earth does the fact that IdrA assumes his opponents won't make mistakes mean that he doesn't feel it's worth it to play people who are imperfect? | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
You aren't a serious competitor if you don't play till the final whistle because ANY serious competitor knows that ANYTHING can happen and you play it out till you have no more moves to make or the clock runs out. Pressure is a powerful thing in competition and people make the silliest mistakes when put under it. Until Idra gets that mentality he'll continue to say woulda/coulda/shoulda. It's sad really. | ||
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Blitz Beat
United States178 Posts
of course... the other players are humans and not robots. but he doesn't realize that >_> | ||
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Zirith
Canada403 Posts
After watching that on the livestream my jaw literally dropped and I just stared at the screen, moments earlier I was thinking wow idra is going to win mlg, he is looking way too solid, then it all just falls apart... On the plus side + Show Spoiler + MMA gets a spot in code S!!! | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:39 Blitz Beat wrote: I beleive it was on "Inside the Game" when they talked about GG timings. IdrA says that his bad habit of early GGs is because he expects his opponents to play the game out PERFECTLY. of course players do make mistakes (ahem inca v rainbow) but he says he expects them to play the game out without any. of course... the other players are humans and not robots. but he doesn't realize that >_> He obviously realizes it but I think that when his inner machine self makes a mistake or is behind in the game, he gets frustrated and doesn't want to play out a losing battle EVEN if he wins for some reason. | ||
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