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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 06 2011 06:50 GMT
#141
On June 06 2011 15:14 Masq wrote:
need a .gif of day9s facial expression, changing from confused to a smile.


I second this. Priceless.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
June 06 2011 06:52 GMT
#142
I am a huge idra fan, the only player I like more than Idra is Nestea and I ahve to say I am very disheartened by him leaving that game vs MMA. I really think he could've won that, then had a very good chance at beating MMA and being guranteed 1st or 2nd place, most likely not having to play MC, and ending up much better than he did. I was really hoping he had learned from the huk incident, but apaprently he hasn't quite yet
♥ Idra, I really hope he learns and fixes his attitude, I think with the right attitude he could easily be the best player in the world.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
June 06 2011 06:54 GMT
#143
On June 06 2011 15:52 hunts wrote:
I am a huge idra fan, the only player I like more than Idra is Nestea and I ahve to say I am very disheartened by him leaving that game vs MMA. I really think he could've won that, then had a very good chance at beating MMA and being guranteed 1st or 2nd place, most likely not having to play MC, and ending up much better than he did. I was really hoping he had learned from the huk incident, but apaprently he hasn't quite yet
♥ Idra, I really hope he learns and fixes his attitude, I think with the right attitude he could easily be the best player in the world.


this ... the famous HuK you weren't loss game was really funny


this game today was ... sad... and then the meltdown against MC just made it worse... I guarantee Idra advances if he plays more straight up against MC


Idra probably has top 5 talent in the world ... I have got to believe if he gets the right mentality he will start dominating like he did early on in the tourney
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 06 2011 07:03 GMT
#144
On June 06 2011 15:54 ShooTouts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 15:52 hunts wrote:
I am a huge idra fan, the only player I like more than Idra is Nestea and I ahve to say I am very disheartened by him leaving that game vs MMA. I really think he could've won that, then had a very good chance at beating MMA and being guranteed 1st or 2nd place, most likely not having to play MC, and ending up much better than he did. I was really hoping he had learned from the huk incident, but apaprently he hasn't quite yet
♥ Idra, I really hope he learns and fixes his attitude, I think with the right attitude he could easily be the best player in the world.


this ... the famous HuK you weren't loss game was really funny


this game today was ... sad... and then the meltdown against MC just made it worse... I guarantee Idra advances if he plays more straight up against MC


Idra probably has top 5 talent in the world ... I have got to believe if he gets the right mentality he will start dominating like he did early on in the tourney

Ya, if idra plays 4 macro games I think people would say it's reasonable that he can take 2 off MC...he did it just the day before. It has to be from him tilting from previous series or something. It doesn't make sense to not be confident in your macro judging by how his MLG was going until then. I personally didn't think this case of early GGs was funny at all, it was sad seeing that opportunity thrown away.
Blaize
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States91 Posts
June 06 2011 07:05 GMT
#145
On June 06 2011 13:35 Fall.182 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:23 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
From PlayXP

Greg Field's "Cool Image" leave international fans "shocked"

Idra's "Cool image" carried through his games against OGsMC. After his games with MMA, he would GG after each of his attack failed and showed his "cool image"(?).

In the end Idra gave MC 4 games and ended up 4th.



MC outskilled idra during those 4-0 games...

you can't possibly be saying that idra lost four games INTENTIONALLY(correct me if im wrong).


-.-


Then I'll say it, he intentionally lost those games, maybe he can trick himself into thinking it wasn't intentional but quite honestly he just got done throwing games away to MMA because after the first day some switch was tripped with Idra.

The reason I say this is because Idra was playing like a man possessed on the first day, he had great games with MC, and showcased BRILLIANCE, then he stomped on the rest of his opponents. Had the Idra from MLG Columbus day one showed up to day two and three, the discussion would probably be why Zerg is overpowered now.

Now back to what I was saying, Idra had a switch flipped somewhere, whether it was the loss to Thorzain, or maybe he finally had something to fight for and figured he was gonna lose because he didn't wanna play bad or whatever. I honestly feel that two different Idra's showed up to MLG Columbus, the EG.Idra, and the Korean Idra, the EG.Idra was Day One, the Korean Idra Day Two and most notably Day Three.

Now I don't know what triggered it, but if he can get past the issue where he goes on a form of Tilt that can't be undone, I suspect EG.Idra could become the first Bonjwa of Starcraft 2, case and point his first days games.
fartdra
Profile Joined June 2011
92 Posts
June 06 2011 07:15 GMT
#146
i foresee a jinro style fall from grace for idra. like jinro a couple months ago, idra has been on the cusp of breaking through to the very top for a while now, but he realizes he can't get there by doing what he is doing. so he is starting to change it up, but like jinro, when you change it up you lose your identity, and have to try to remake yourself or find it again. it is kinda like tiger woods, he tries to be too technical with his driver that he overthinks the game, he doesn't just go out there and play golf, idra gotta just gotta go out there and play sc2
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
June 06 2011 07:18 GMT
#147
I entirely agree, when he lost to MMA I almost convinced itself it was intentional to dodge playing ZvZ, which he believes is a coin flip match up... against Losira, I also wondered if he literally just wanted to beat MC again, but this is really disappointing, I hope he gives us an explanation.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 06 2011 07:20 GMT
#148
I have been supportive of his (and zerg in general) imbalance whine to a degree but I have to say idra's behavior this weekend is poisonous for e-sports. It's like he only wants to play a game where he gets advantage and drag that advantage for 30 minutes for his macro pleasure. Extremely narcissist yet fragile. More and more I think this kid has an issue.

ZvP doesn't look that imbalanced any more, either. Everyone in Korea agrees the 20-second delay in warp gate research was a huge help. (How many times do you see 4-gate in ZvP any more?) Z is more secure than ever against P in early game and it looks like all races have almost equal chance of winning on majority of the maps.

If things like this happen again I will stop watching his games in the future.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
June 06 2011 07:20 GMT
#149
IdrA's teammates need to sit down with him and force him to play every game from now on through to the very end, up until his last building is destroyed, while blasting inspirational Pokemon songs into his ears.

Because, I swear, at this rate, the only thing that's holding him back is himself.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 07:21 GMT
#150
MMA stated he thought he was going to lose when someone asked him afterwards :D
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
June 06 2011 07:21 GMT
#151
On June 06 2011 16:15 fartdra wrote:
i foresee a jinro style fall from grace for idra. like jinro a couple months ago, idra has been on the cusp of breaking through to the very top for a while now, but he realizes he can't get there by doing what he is doing. so he is starting to change it up, but like jinro, when you change it up you lose your identity, and have to try to remake yourself or find it again. it is kinda like tiger woods, he tries to be too technical with his driver that he overthinks the game, he doesn't just go out there and play golf, idra gotta just gotta go out there and play sc2


no not going to happen

difference is Jinro has to face the best Koreans every day

Idra is going to be facing them sparingly and about 75% of the time facing players frankly he should easily win against
martinerkul
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 07:36:24
June 06 2011 07:25 GMT
#152
On June 06 2011 15:48 Clog wrote:
Well after watching the replay on IdrA-cam the entire way through, there's some important things to note

1. He never scouted those really early CC's, so he didn't have any reason to think that was MMA's 4th.

2. He clearly saw that his mutas had the army in the middle basically cleaned up. All the marines were dead, and the turret next to the constructing CC + 4 tanks was nearly dead. IdrA was about to get 5 tanks basically for free.

3. He did move all the drones at the natural into the one gas geyser (very few of which died). He never looked at the area again, so it's hard to say how much value that held in his mind to leave without knowing how many drones actually remained.

4. This is probably the most important one, and might be one of the big reasons he gg'd. At the end of the game, he had 16 lings and 5 mutas under production. However, after those, he had a mere 2 larva remaining, and absolutely ZERO larva injects in progress (total of 5 hatcheries). Most of the remaining seconds before the gg he had the hatcheries selected, and almost felt like he was waiting for more larva to pop, which never really happened.

Now, I'm not saying he shouldn't have gg'd, but there's a bit of misinformation and uninformed people around. I would guess that he thought with MMA's reinforcements (that would have been inevitable) he would not have been able to hold it with so few lings or banes. Or something.


I'm seriously feeling the pain on Idras behalf on that 4th point. When there's so much action going on, waiting for the larva pop that, probably, has been forgotten to be injected must be such a hard mental blow for Idra. Forgetting such an elementary thing. My guess is that this in combination with believing his drones were dead is what made him think he would lose this game.
There is no real life
Ciddass
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany149 Posts
June 06 2011 07:33 GMT
#153
idra is just afraid of giving 110% and afraid of being dominated while fighting for his life.

pretty uncool :S
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 06 2011 07:34 GMT
#154
On June 06 2011 14:32 Yemack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:24 BaronFel wrote:
For koreans, "cool" means something along the lines of "I don't really care" attitude. Like if you get blown off and you go "whatever" and act like is no big deal, that's being cool.


yup and along that line I would like to correct the mistranslation from the event

MMA never said anything about 'being positive'

This is what MMA actually said but lost in translation 'From this game, I hope Idra is able to learn some perseverance/fortitude'


confirming. I apologized to MMA afterwards.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
June 06 2011 07:42 GMT
#155
You still did a fantastic job, Milkis. Thanks for your work!
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 07:50:13
June 06 2011 07:48 GMT
#156
To be honest, i think Idra just buckled under the pressure that MMA put on him. Nothing to be ashamed of MMA is an unreal player.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
June 06 2011 07:52 GMT
#157
Has idra said anything post the MMA game? Any links to interviews?
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
June 06 2011 07:57 GMT
#158
On June 06 2011 16:52 PeggyHill wrote:
Has idra said anything post the MMA game? Any links to interviews?


I'm interested in these as well
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
June 06 2011 08:05 GMT
#159
Idra's mentality is completely messed up he needs some serious sports psychology counseling or he will never reach his potential. Whenever he is in a tough spot he acts as if his opponents will play a perfect game from that point on. The exact opposite of a champion's mindset...
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
June 06 2011 08:06 GMT
#160
On June 06 2011 13:29 HollowYoshi wrote:
IdrA seems like his own worst enemy most of the time. I respect the guy and he definitely played phenomenally this weekend, but I swear he kills himself more often than his opponents do... O_O


Mirrors my thoughts exactly. Extremely sad, because he showcased some excellent play this weekend, only to let himself down so hard.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
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