EPTMLG Columbus Spoiler. Idra Article! - Page 9
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oBlade
United States6016 Posts
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Musketeer
142 Posts
On June 06 2011 16:33 Ciddass wrote: idra is just afraid of giving 110% and afraid of being dominated while fighting for his life. pretty uncool :S Yeah, I think that's about it. It's really disheartening to see a player with such large emotional issues that he's too ashamed to try his best. It's the same reason that he doesn't take responsibility for his performance in tournaments. He would rather blame imbalance, cheese or "improper play" so he doesn't have to face the shame of having lost due to his own deficiencies. Got to feel bad for the guy. I remember hearing him say on SoTG that he "should" be the one winning everything because he spent so many years practicing 12 hours a day in Korea. It felt bad to hear that, because he's still the only one who doesn't realize that as long as he attributes his losses to "unfairness" rather than improving the bumps in HIS play, it doesn't matter if he practices 20 hours a day.  | ||
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ClS
Sweden14 Posts
Yet the attitude still remained and even though he played better, surprisingly, his biggest enemy is still his own mind. Playing mind games on himself and judging situations by default, in blind sight, based on probability and crude assumption... THAT is what lost him his game against MMA. ... Though... It did give us some of the most stunning, and legendary SC2 pictures yet  .. And this I am utterly thankful of. Man was I flabbergasted... and man was that an historic epic fail! | ||
epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:29 GenesisX wrote: I think IdrA is good enough to know if hes winning or losing. This. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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sirkyan
211 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:34 Defacer wrote: It would be the worst attempt at Match Fixing, ever. Or a deceptively clever one! | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
Anyone has a link or something for that? I just want to look again maybe i can understand more what happened. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 06 2011 17:42 zoLo wrote: I didn't get to catch this series, but seeing this thread, reading the article, and watching the video gave a serious" wtf IdrA...". IdrA really needs to fix his mindset, but things like that is hard. It's hard for some people to admit their faults and to change themselves. iNcontroL has talked about this many times on SotG and if IdrA can get over this problem, then he can obviously stop situations like this from happening. What IdrA needs to do is learn how to play from behind. He doesn't accept the challenge of playing from behind or being the underdog, which is absolutely critical when trying to master a sport. In fact, being able to come back and thrive in disadvantageous situation is what defines greatness. If you've ever seen Kobe Bryant take over a game after his team is down 20 points, or take a clutch shot to tie a game, you know what I'm talking about. I remember a classic game where Tracy McGrady single-handledly scored 13 points in the last minute of a game to lead his team to victory by a couple of points. IdrA's lack of perseverance or 'never say die' also impacts the overall development of his game, particularly his ability to create and be innovative. Most people don't develop new strategies or tactics until they're put in a situation where they are forced to create something from nothing. IdrA's problem is that he avoids those situations entirely, especially against the kind high quality opponents that he needs to compete against. His attitude is probably hampering his growth in ways he hasn't even realized yet. | ||
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vojnik
Macedonia923 Posts
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zQk
Belgium1 Post
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
A very odd statement considering this whole thread revolves around how he obviously didn't know if he was winning or losing. Edit: Oh or are you actually trying to support the insane idea that he actually fixes matches... | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:00 zQk wrote: I think Idra lost 'cause he didn't want to play against a zerg (IMLosira) and try to reach the final by the loser bracket. This is interesting but if idra were to throw a series I don't think he'd throw it like that. Idra definitely has some mental problems he should get straightened out. He played awesome day 1 but there was no way he was on his A game against mma and mc today. I notice he plays worse against people on ladder who get into his head (minigun). He can't control balance of the game. Nestea is doing better at sc2 than him and he's had better results. Blizzard's not going to balance the game based on his rants. I'd love it if he was able to be more calm and nonjudgmental. At least try it for a month. I think it'd really help him play better and winning is more important then holding onto your old belief system. I know he's said he's done better at tournaments when he practices less and ladders more and I think it's because he doesn't get into that old self destructive mindset. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:00 zQk wrote: I think Idra lost 'cause he didn't want to play against a zerg (IMLosira) and try to reach the final by the loser bracket. Yeah that makes sense... ... except he would always have to beat losira. If he drops to the loser bracket and beats everyone he would either have to play losira in the losers bracket final or the actual final. He didn't do this on purpose. He is just afraid to be outplayed to the point that he'll GG at the first sign of being even slightly behind. The worst thing about it is that he doesn't even bother checking if he actually is behind. If he'd stayed in that game vs mma and played the series out without tilting he would probably have been a zvz away from winning the whole damn thing. But hey, the man can't risk playing out a game where he might be slightly behind (even if the game is actually pretty much won)... that would just be embarrasing. | ||
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brozor
Netherlands20 Posts
Idra was right to gg every 4 of the controversial games (1x MMa, 3x MC), when he gg'ed the outlook for him was grimm at best. Now there are a few questions that come to mind: - Why did idra choose to do the roach-ling all in's against MC in the extented series? And why didn't he do them in game 1 and 2? -Why does idra give his opponents so much respect? When you are behind you will lose, given that your opponent plays perfectly. Thus when idra leaves when he is behind, he assumes his opponent will play perfectly. This assumption is clearly wrong e.g. the MMA game. | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
oh and got to love the audience reaction...so many open mouths at 1:25 lol day9 and djwheat simultanously: "what?" "what?" | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:29 brozor wrote: I agree mostly with most of the previous posts in this thread, but I have some thoughts on the matter. Idra was right to gg every 4 of the controversial games (1x MMa, 3x MC), when he gg'ed the outlook for him was grimm at best. Now there are a few questions that come to mind: - Why did idra choose to do the roach-ling all in's against MC in the extented series? And why didn't he do them in game 1 and 2? -Why does idra give his opponents so much respect? When you are behind you will lose, given that your opponent plays perfectly. Thus when idra leaves when he is behind, he assumes his opponent will play perfectly. This assumption is clearly wrong e.g. the MMA game. lol i kinda feel he's just saving up for major tournaments or just goofing off a bit (which is strange, since he has such a serious demeanor) | ||
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Mentor
Germany219 Posts
The EG team really needs to give him mental support, if they expect him to win anything. He has no fighting spirit whatsoever. It's disheartening to see someone fall victim to his own mentality. | ||
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hazelynut
United States2196 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:29 GenesisX wrote: I think IdrA is good enough to know if hes winning or losing. The problem is, he forgets that he doesn't know if his opponent will make a mistake and put him back in the game | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
On June 06 2011 14:18 Mailing wrote: WE know this. IdrA did not. He thought MMA was taking his 4th gold base and had a 3 base eonomy and another round of marines on the way while he had 0 banes. IdrA left because he didn't know what mma had. If he knew he had enough muta left to keep going he would have. That's exactly the point though. Idra DIDN'T KNOW, so he shouldn't leave an important game based upon an assumption. He could just have stayed in the game, sent an overseer around to find out what MMA actually had, and then leave, or in this case, stay. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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