EPTOn June 06 2011 13:29 GenesisX wrote:
I think IdrA is good enough to know if hes winning or losing.
I think IdrA is good enough to know if hes winning or losing.
Evidence has shown otherwise.
MLG Columbus Spoiler. Idra Article! - Page 11
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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senty
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
On June 06 2011 19:23 GizmoPT wrote: he certainly has some mental problems... why didnt he wait and see if he was really dead and gg after ? is he afraid of something ?.. really idra you disapoint me he has self respect.... a real pro knows when to gg and give out free games he won | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
lol maybe MMA was in on it...which explains why he was blasting at his own CC | ||
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:33 jalstar wrote: IdrA said he would have been dead if MMA had a round of marines coming, which he would have if he hadn't killed his OC. At least that's what I remember reading. Looking at the VOD Idra only had a small amount of mutas and zerglings, and looks like he would have been dead if MMA had been rallying marines to his base. but he clearly saw the gold base was still building and mining long-distance... | ||
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brozor
Netherlands20 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:33 IzieBoy wrote: lol i kinda feel he's just saving up for major tournaments or just goofing off a bit (which is strange, since he has such a serious demeanor) Don't you think MLG is a major tounament? I mean is Idra rich enough to throw away 1k. 1st Place $5,000 2nd Place $3,000 3rd Place $2,000 4th Place $1,400 | ||
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
Day 1 he seemed invincible. Sharp, collected, cool, on top of things, relaxed (as "not nervous") and very very determined. Day 2, his game vs. Thorazine seemed like he didn't care. Can't blame him for that. He had already secured 1st spot in his pool, but I kinda feel that attitude carried over in him in Day 3. Day 3, I was expecting him to demolish MMA. And it did looked like that will happen, specially after MMA killed his Gold expo CC in such beautiful manner. That drop by MMA took out a Spine Crawler, a Queen and a couple of drones. Yeah, the Mutas count was significantly lowered, but he had the economy to insta-re-max with Lings/Blings/Infestors and just roll him over. No idea why he "gg"-ed. Even watching the replay from his POV, you still can see that he's ahead. MMA had like 1 and a half mining base, he was long distance mining from the Gold and he had little to none tanks left. That's basically Lings/Blings heaven IMO. No clue what he saw in that game to make him "gg". Or maybe what he didn't saw ? Game 2 was going by the book for Idra - stopping the early aggression easly and then securing the expo and getting good saturation. Thing is, that build was sort of all-in-ish. He should've identified that and put more then 1 Spine Crawler. After one failed all-in, it's very very likely that you'll get another one shortly afterwards. So why not reacting as safe as possible ? 3-5 Spine Crawlers wouldn't have put Idra in disadvantage, coz he could've easly later on, pushed up his creep and moved them around wherever he liked. Like to defend the 3rd or to close off the choke around the upper Xel'Naga Tower. Instead he went to be super greedy and did lost that game properly. My guess is that it all comes back to that heartless game vs. Thorzain in the pool. Idra's ZvT is one of the best out there and he just allowed to be rolled over. And from there on, it just carried on and turned out into a big humiliation. The games vs. MC were just plain awful. 3 badly shaped all-ins and only when he was on the ropes, he actually started to play the way we all know he can. And he did lost that 4th game barely. If he did that sort of play in all the other games, he could've easly grab the 2 wins needed before MC could make it to 4. Easy ! Well, I guess I'll be waiting for SotG or ITG to hear his thoughts. Shame such a great player performed so poorly. I've seen Golden level Zergs handle in-game crysis better then him  Not happy. | ||
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Serpest
United States603 Posts
On June 06 2011 20:03 speedphlux wrote: Hmmm, I got no idea what he was thinking there. I'd love to hear his thoughts on the next SotG or ITG or ... whatever. Day 1 he seemed invincible. Sharp, collected, cool, on top of things, relaxed (as "not nervous") and very very determined. Day 2, his game vs. Thorazine seemed like he didn't care. Can't blame him for that. He had already secured 1st spot in his pool, but I kinda feel that attitude carried over in him in Day 3. Day 3, I was expecting him to demolish MMA. And it did looked like that will happen, specially after MMA killed his Gold expo CC in such beautiful manner. That drop by MMA took out a Spine Crawler, a Queen and a couple of drones. Yeah, the Mutas count was significantly lowered, but he had the economy to insta-re-max with Lings/Blings/Infestors and just roll him over. No idea why he "gg"-ed. Even watching the replay from his POV, you still can see that he's ahead. MMA had like 1 and a half mining base, he was long distance mining from the Gold and he had little to none tanks left. That's basically Lings/Blings heaven IMO. No clue what he saw in that game to make him "gg". Or maybe what he didn't saw ? Game 2 was going by the book for Idra - stopping the early aggression easly and then securing the expo and getting good saturation. Thing is, that build was sort of all-in-ish. He should've identified that and put more then 1 Spine Crawler. After one failed all-in, it's very very likely that you'll get another one shortly afterwards. So why not reacting as safe as possible ? 3-5 Spine Crawlers wouldn't have put Idra in disadvantage, coz he could've easly later on, pushed up his creep and moved them around wherever he liked. Like to defend the 3rd or to close off the choke around the upper Xel'Naga Tower. Instead he went to be super greedy and did lost that game properly. My guess is that it all comes back to that heartless game vs. Thorzain in the pool. Idra's ZvT is one of the best out there and he just allowed to be rolled over. And from there on, it just carried on and turned out into a big humiliation. The games vs. MC were just plain awful. 3 badly shaped all-ins and only when he was on the ropes, he actually started to play the way we all know he can. And he did lost that 4th game barely. If he did that sort of play in all the other games, he could've easly grab the 2 wins needed before MC could make it to 4. Easy ! Well, I guess I'll be waiting for SotG or ITG to hear his thoughts. Shame such a great player performed so poorly. I've seen Golden level Zergs handle in-game crysis better then him Not happy. Mmmm. Was wondering about that. Didn't get to see the Thorzain matches, and was under the impression idra was fighting those, but I guess that apathy and overconfidence from the 1st day really set him behind. Thanks! | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Mongoapan
Sweden2 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:53 FrogOfWar wrote: You're conveniently forgetting Idra's "zerg isn't meant to beat protoss" in the 3rd game vs. MC. He's not only indicating that he's pissed as everyone assumed anyway, but also implying that MC's wins aren't legit, which is very unsportsmanlike and definitely not professional. Doesn't even matter if there is any truth to his statement - you agree to the rules as you enter the game. You can't take your victories but question the game when losing. I'm not even hating Idra at all, but we should try to be honest here. I think you are being unfair,Idra didn't say that out of the blue. MC ask "are u angry ?" at the start in the 3rd game and that's just rude after beating him 2 games in row. Idra response was IMO a bit fun, regardless its shouldn't be taken serious given to contrast and its wasn't out of line or bm in any way. Idra was well manner and gg in every game, to bitch and say he was unsportsmanlike and not professional is just not fair. | ||
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xbankx
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Pretty sure MC just said that to try and tilt him more, a tactic that incontrol would be proud of :> Good luck to him and EG. Still finished top foreigner. | ||
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Crackensan
United States479 Posts
On topic, yes, IdrA's worst enemy is himself. That MMA game put him on tilt, and I don't think he recovered. He's super negative, and needs to get rid of that if he's going to show his true potential and just rip apart everyone outside of Korea. | ||
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Lutto
Sweden198 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On June 06 2011 20:29 Lutto wrote: If idra wasnt so popular he would probably be kicked from EG, his preformance and rage quitting is just bad and the fact that he still states that zerg sucks vs protoss after the last results (even losria vs mc) is just sad... He finish that MLG as first non korean without even trying pass day1. How is that bad performance ?! Idra is stupidly good at this game, and he know that. But he still think everyone is as good as him, so he give up the instant he's in a bad spot. | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
Personally I hate watching players like moon who refuse to GG until they are at 10 supply with 2 buildings left.. Idra takes so much heat every time he loses..lets start a thread up about how naniwa got completely destroyed by MC after he fucking danced his zealots gloating like a retard which lost him the game. or ANY of the other competitors the koreans destroyed at MLG. Idra got 4th. koreans swept 1-2-3. so koreans>idra>everyone else | ||
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BasilPesto
Australia624 Posts
On June 06 2011 20:29 Lutto wrote: If idra wasnt so popular he would probably be kicked from EG, his preformance and rage quitting is just bad and the fact that he still states that zerg sucks vs protoss after the last results (even losria vs mc) is just sad... lmao, Idra's the best thing EG has to offer. | ||
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lowlypawn
United States241 Posts
I hope Idra adopts a mindset to just fight it out to the last zergling no matter what. Sure the outcome will be the same 99% of the time but it's that 1% that makes the difference. Even when he thinks the game is lost he should just play as if he is the "insane AI" that doesn't care about being behind. | ||
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Nasradime
France83 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + And a shot of the audience a couple of seconds after the event : ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9uNbN.png) Haha I just love these WTF faces :D | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
On June 06 2011 20:29 Lutto wrote: If idra wasnt so popular he would probably be kicked from EG, his preformance and rage quitting is just bad and the fact that he still states that zerg sucks vs protoss after the last results (even losria vs mc) is just sad... you are an ignorant troll. Idra is EG's best clutch player by far. He is their ace. | ||
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