EPTAnd there is no connection to hurting e-sports. If anything, it would be a beneficial stir every time he did something cool. Also an aside, I know if I were a progamer one of the things I would want to do would be to beat Jaedong in a televised 1v1 but GG anyways just to be awesome.
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oBlade
United States6015 Posts
And there is no connection to hurting e-sports. If anything, it would be a beneficial stir every time he did something cool. Also an aside, I know if I were a progamer one of the things I would want to do would be to beat Jaedong in a televised 1v1 but GG anyways just to be awesome. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
MLG Colombus was fucking great, I was so pleased to see Thorzain, Naniwa and IdrA at such a high level, showing off that they can compete (even if they lost) against the top tier korean players. Why, here on tl, there are only topic about IdrA, how IdrA left too early, why MC was right to BM him... and blablabla. Sure it's funny, IdrA gave us a hell of a show like always, and we have a lot of thing to laugh about but I just can't understand all the people mad at him for losing this way. It's how it is... All the IdrA haters are much much worse than the IdrA fan. IdrA has bad habbits ? Deal with it! | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:12 KaidaN wrote: are you joking? Idras performances are bad? hes only lost like 3 BO x's in major tounaments in the last few months plus he fact that he finished as 4th against arguably players in the top 3 for their race in korea and the best foreigner WITH all the early gging and senseless rage quitting. If anything it really shows to EG how good of a player he could really be if he just changed his attitude. + the fact that IdrA is a benefit to any team as a practice partner and an ACE player i would put removing IdrA from EG as one of the stupidest things an 'professional' team could ever do. thorzain looked like the best foreigner tbh. argruably he would have finished highest foreigner if he didn't have to play his group matches after exhausting open bracket marathon and almost* beating MC... naniwa and idra both surrender to MC before the match even starts. | ||
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
Legendary faces by the commentators. Must be an awful spot to be in, I wouldn't know what to say either. On June 06 2011 13:33 jalstar wrote: IdrA said he would have been dead if MMA had a round of marines coming, which he would have if he hadn't killed his OC. At least that's what I remember reading. Looking at the VOD Idra only had a small amount of mutas and zerglings, and looks like he would have been dead if MMA had been rallying marines to his base. Seems like a valid line to take but on the spectrum of "GG WP yo" to "Fantasy-gg-timing", even IF MMA had marines coming, I feel like not GG'ing right there would be quite acceptable. | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:32 shizna wrote: thorzain looked like the best foreigner tbh. argruably he would have finished highest foreigner if he didn't have to play his group matches after exhausting open bracket marathon and beating MC... naniwa and idra both surrender to MC before the match even starts. Thorzain would have won against MC if there was no extended series rule aswell. I think they need to reconsider that shit, its silly and everyone knows it. | ||
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Huggerz
Great Britain919 Posts
He did exactly the same thing vs HuK. And if you know anything about Idra you know he is stubborn | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:36 Pekkz wrote: Thorzain would have won against MC if there was no extended series rule aswell. I think they need to reconsider that shit, its silly and everyone knows it. i support the extended series in this tournament format. i don't think it's the best overall format, but it's a lot better than the last few GSL's. without extended series, a player could be 5 wins 4 losses (2-0 win in group, 3-4 loss in extended), and still get knocked out by that player. it makes the group stage matches important as hell, that is all. | ||
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Sacro
Norway237 Posts
He's winrate in most cases are insane and he is one of the very best, but i immagine that if he played out games he feel he's loosing maybe it would be slightly higher. Looking at Nestea, we see him time and time again forced up in a corner where all looks grim, but he allways seem to try his hardest to find a possible comeback and one spectacular time he did so, when facing SC in the gsl he barely won his 5th and deciding game and proceeding to take a gsl title that season. With that in mind you can think back to the series between idra and jinro, what if jinro would have messed up his control in the game vs idra on metalopolis where he bunker rushed at close positions and Idra gave up. Maybe Idra could have had a gsl title under his belt. You can say "what if" situations are stupid, but this is my toughts in all of this. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:39 shizna wrote: i support the extended series in this tournament format. i don't think it's the best overall format, but it's a lot better than the last few GSL's. without extended series, a player could be 5 wins 4 losses (2-0 win in group, 3-4 loss in extended), and still get knocked out by that player. it makes the group stage matches important as hell, that is all. That's true, but at the same time, with the way the MLG pool play > championship bracket works, that player would pay for losing by having to play more games in the bracket. Extended series feels too much like double punishment to me. And I don't like the way MLG are doing it with the seeding for the brackets, where they basically pair up groups, meaning you're bound to get maximum extended series. | ||
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Knutzi
Norway664 Posts
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
but the ultimate solution is to be ***respectful of your opponents***. if you treat the opposition as a potential friend then you'll be a lot more comfortable and if you lose to a stupid mistake or he beats you with something 'cheesy' then you have a laugh and say well played.... you do not become enraged and then become super tilted, you have fun win or lose. being enraged is never good, becoming flustered and you begin doubting yourself etc. idra won vs huk because idra is a better player, not because he became enraged and wanted revenge or some crap. mc was probably worried facing idra, and then when he saw idra's series against MMA he was probably thinking "free win keke". idra seems to treats every one of his opponents like he just scraped them off his boot. look at the crowds reaction after that premature GG, is that good for esports? it's embarrassing that idra is one of the best players in the world and still does that crap. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:34 frodoguy wrote: maybe he did it to create buzz in the esports scene to make it more appealing (helping the growth of esports)? if he is willing to sacrifice the money then maybe 2 people playing doing awful decisions grows esports? Ok. Can we just ban the phrase 'growth of esports' at all, it's getting fucking retarded. Plus we have to hear about EVERYTHING IDRA DOES constantly. It's actually really boring now. | ||
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crabz
227 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:32 shizna wrote: thorzain looked like the best foreigner tbh. argruably he would have finished highest foreigner if he didn't have to play his group matches after exhausting open bracket marathon and almost* beating MC... naniwa and idra both surrender to MC before the match even starts. pretty much this, thorzain performed better than any other foreigner on mlg | ||
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Vaala
Canada21 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45439 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:27 GenesisX wrote: Match fixing?  Completely uncalled for. IdrA probably just thought he was a lot further behind than he actually was. It was a terrible call for him to make (never give up, never surrender), especially when the spectators have perfect map vision... but this certainly isn't the first time he's left the game prematurely. | ||
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Mateo0
France112 Posts
Shock is the right word to describe my face after that GG xD | ||
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KaidaN
Australia54 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:27 Yaotzin wrote: 4th at MLG doesn't mean much on its own. The MLG system is weird at best, and you can place high while winning hardly any notable games. See Incontrol. Let's look at IdrA's results: 2-0 Ret. Not bad, but he'd be disappointed if he lost. 2-0 Tyler. Tyler has been very disappointing, IdrA would certainly expect the win here. 2-0 SelecT. See Ret result. Select had a miserable MLG. 2-0 MC. Excellent result. 0-2 Thorzain. Fairly disappointing, but not terrible. 0-2 MMA. What more needs to be said? 2-0 Slush. Very much expected. 0-4 MC. Decent in one game, godawful in the rest. So overall, what did he achieve? He got a 2-0 over MC in pool play. Other than that? Some good but expected results, a somewhat disappointing one, and two bloody awful ones. That's not a good performance by his standards, not even close. Firstly to be fair to tyler and select (and maybe even ret?) they pretty much were in the 'group of death' compared to his little slump earlier in the year, id say thats pretty good results by a 'foreigner'. People (including day9) said that IdrA after the first day looked like a major favourite to take out the tournament considering the way in which he CRUSHED each of them, the games didnt even look remarkably close. Yes he had disappointing results after the first day but it was obvious he was on tilt, he threw all the games but 1 against MC didnt really look like he was trying as hard as he had against thorzain. Against MMA, well that was disappointing but again the effects of being on 'idra tilt'. Overall, any of the pool players could have been 4th, it wasnt like idra was given a 20 game headstart before the first game @ MLG. Results are results, IdrA took 4th and no one can do anything about it. | ||
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BigJoe
United States210 Posts
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On June 06 2011 21:55 crabz wrote: pretty much this, thorzain performed better than any other foreigner on mlg Thorzain and Idra performed as well as each other. Idra might have embaressed himself in the end but he was still the only foreigner to beat a Korean in a series. | ||
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