MLG Columbus Spoiler. Idra Article! - Page 14

On June 06 2011 21:36 Pekkz wrote:


Thorzain would have won against MC if there was no extended series rule aswell. I think they need to reconsider that shit, its silly and everyone knows it.

On June 06 2011 22:32 Blasphemi wrote:


Thorzain and Idra performed as well as each other. Idra might have embaressed himself in the end but he was still the only foreigner to beat a Korean in a series.

On June 06 2011 13:50 Reborn8u wrote:
Idra has been known for this for a long time. In TSL 2 (BW) he accidentally canceled his command center building at his natural while it was getting harassed by a probe. He instantly gg'd. In the GSL against Jinro's bunker rush ramp block close positions on metalopolis, he GG's, didn't even try to break it. Against huk he had the game won and GG'd because of a bunch of hallucinated void rays. In this very MLG he GG'd against MC's cannon rush, he had his nat up and was able to make lings to counter mc's base but he just gg'd. These are major events, these are not games anyone should just be giving away.

Idra has no heart, no resilience, he rolls over and quits at the first sign of an uphill battle. If he were MMA he would have GG'd when he killed his own OC. I was a fan for a while, but I feel like Idra has become more of a spectacle than a competitor. He's good, but he acts like a 10 year old sometimes. He gives up when things get tough, he goes on tilt and whines when he looses, he gives people the finger, and that is why he is so popular. The most disappointing thing is he has so much skill and talent.

If Idra had a never say die attitude, was full of determination 100% of the time. Accepted his losses with dignity, he would probably be the most feared opponent in starcraft. But his attitude, approach to the game, and mental state are holding him back from dominating. I would love to see him change and reach his full potential, but after a few years of seeing this I think it may be deeply ingrained in who he is.

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On June 06 2011 16:34 Milkis wrote:


confirming. I apologized to MMA afterwards.

On June 06 2011 22:48 4of8 wrote:


Hmm how did the Moon vs Naniwa series end ?

On June 06 2011 22:55 sicQ wrote:
I think the extendet series rule is the worst thing for the matches.. The players who have beaten their opponents once should be able to defeat them a second time. If not their first win was probably just luck. And on the other hand if there are such intense matches like Idra vs. MC (sunday match) no player will go into the series with something like "lol 2:0 already; no chance to lose" in their minds.

On June 06 2011 13:59 Zhyq wrote:
Really guys? You really argue that it was lack of mental strength that led IdrA to those loses? I would strongly suggest it was that exact mental strength that shined. It is remarkable to see a player who is able to foresee 5-6 moves ahead and -know- whether (under perfect play from both sides) he will win or lose.

As said earlier, if MMA had the OC at the gold base up and running, he'd have another round of reinforcements which would defeat IdrA. In a scenario that MMA plays perfect and IdrA plays perfect as well, after that last battle, IdrA loses. Why wait it out when you know the outcome?

As far as the MC games are concerned, again IdrA would lose 3 out of 4 of them eventually (again given no mistakes from MC). However, IdrA could have easily won game 4 if he had teched a bit better, rather than remaining stuck with hydra/roach/corruptor forever. That you can fault him on.

Now, one can say that IdrA was tired and didn't make proper decisions as far as his STRATEGY was concerned, and indeed I believe that this was the case. Still, I feel IdrA is not being appreciated for his greatest strength, that is, his ability to read the game flow.

It is a feat of extremely high intelligence to be able to know if you've lost 10 minutes before you do, and that should be recognized rather than criticized.

On June 06 2011 23:04 artanis2 wrote:


Mental strength is believing you can outplay your opponent to the end. IdrA assumed MMA was playing perfectly but he was not. IdrA isn't psychic and should have stuck around to see what was really happening in the game instead of assuming he'd lost.

On June 06 2011 13:53 Zyzxx wrote:
The idra (generic zerg) mentality:

ZvP is imbalanced deathball is so effective
ZvT is imbalanced terran units are too cost effective
ZvZ is a coinflip i lose to worse players sometimes

On June 06 2011 14:04 Zhyq wrote:



I actually dislike IdrA on the whole, but I do admire his ability to know whether he has an advantage or not. So not a fanboy, I'd say.

On June 06 2011 23:27 bashalisk wrote:

What the hell are you talking about? Have you seen his win percentages? He's winning 86% of ZvZs! Eighty-freaking-six!

Characteristically, when a person falls victim to Garbage-Dump Thinking he develops an assortment of "Loser's Limps." You know what the Loser's Limp is if you've ever attended a football game or watched one on television. (Incidentally, the last time I saw the local team play I knew they were in trouble when the punter signaled for a fair catch on the snap from center.) The offensive player slips behind the defensive player, reaches up, pulls in a pass,and heads for the end zone. The defensive player quickly recovers and takes out in hot pursuit. When the offensive player gets about 20 yards from the end zone, the defensive player realizes he's not going to catch the man with the ball. Everybody in the stands knows it too. So, the defensive player frequently pulls up limping and the people in the stands say, "Well, no wonder the poor guy couldn't catch him. Look, he's crippled." Now that is Loser's Limp.