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On May 28 2011 17:52 iMAniaC wrote:
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I still think that having "friendship clubs" or something like it would be a good idea.
In fact, having friendship clubs, seems to be a solution for both those who say going to Korea is hard and those who say it's not. If the argument is that it's hard because you don't have any friends, then a friendship club could fix that. If the argument is that it's easy to move to a new place, because one makes new friends, then a friendship club is a means to that end.
Friendship clubs? Are you fucking serious? The people over in Korea and at GOM are reading this thread.
Can people please stop with the fucking friendship clubs already? Are you insinuating the foreigners will be lonely or that it's too difficult to become friends with Koreans because of the language barrier?
If you cannot make friends with the Koreans or you're having difficulty, that is YOUR problem. Not GOM's, not the Koreans. YOURS. You are NOT there to speak in Korean 8-12 hours a day. The only language you need to speak is STARCRAFT 2. Gom is not there to socially calibrate you or teach you how to build basic human relationships. Holy shit.
As for practice partners: did you not read DoA's post? Korean pros are more than willing to help as practice partners. Having practice games with IMMvp? You do not need a friendship club or years of Korean language classes to make that happen.
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I want to learn Korean just to hear you guys commentate. Thanks Parapa for continued support of the foreign scene.
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On May 29 2011 00:59 PHC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:52 iMAniaC wrote:
[Edited out a bunch of stuff that was just a mess]
I still think that having "friendship clubs" or something like it would be a good idea.
In fact, having friendship clubs, seems to be a solution for both those who say going to Korea is hard and those who say it's not. If the argument is that it's hard because you don't have any friends, then a friendship club could fix that. If the argument is that it's easy to move to a new place, because one makes new friends, then a friendship club is a means to that end. Friendship clubs? Are you fucking serious? The people over in Korea and at GOM are reading this thread. Can people please stop with the fucking friendship clubs already? Are you insinuating the foreigners will be lonely or that it's too difficult to become friends with Koreans because of the language barrier? If you cannot make friends with the Koreans or you're having difficulty, that is YOUR problem. Not GOM's, not the Koreans. YOURS. You are NOT there to speak in Korean 8-12 hours a day. The only language you need to speak is STARCRAFT 2. Gom is not there to socially calibrate you or teach you how to build basic human relationships. Holy shit. As for practice partners: did you not read DoA's post? Korean pros are more than willing to help as practice partners. Having practice games with IMMvp? You do not need a friendship club or years of Korean language classes to make that happen.
This is so true. I can't believe people are complaining about a lack of FRIENDS. If you share a common interest with someone, you will find a way to become friends, barrier or not. It seems alot of people whining about friendship clubs are just generally inadequete at making friends with anyone thats different from themselves. Its really dissapointing that supposed loniliness is being tossed around as a reason that Gom isn't doing enough. God damn, learn to develop some social skills.
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On May 29 2011 00:59 PHC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:52 iMAniaC wrote:
[Edited out a bunch of stuff that was just a mess]
I still think that having "friendship clubs" or something like it would be a good idea.
In fact, having friendship clubs, seems to be a solution for both those who say going to Korea is hard and those who say it's not. If the argument is that it's hard because you don't have any friends, then a friendship club could fix that. If the argument is that it's easy to move to a new place, because one makes new friends, then a friendship club is a means to that end. Friendship clubs? Are you fucking serious? The people over in Korea and at GOM are reading this thread. Can people please stop with the fucking friendship clubs already? Are you insinuating the foreigners will be lonely or that it's too difficult to become friends with Koreans because of the language barrier? If you cannot make friends with the Koreans or you're having difficulty, that is YOUR problem. Not GOM's, not the Koreans. YOURS. You are NOT there to speak in Korean 8-12 hours a day. The only language you need to speak is STARCRAFT 2. Gom is not there to socially calibrate you or teach you how to build basic human relationships. Holy shit. As for practice partners: did you not read DoA's post? Korean pros are more than willing to help as practice partners. Having practice games with IMMvp? You do not need a friendship club or years of Korean language classes to make that happen.
Rofl well said..Gom cant do everything yo
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Thank you for keeping it real and bringing light to an otherwise dim subject. People have started to view participating in the korean tournaments as if they were every gamers' right to do so. However, life is so much more complicated than that and we should all appreciate the great lengths both the korean scene and foreign scenes are taking to evolve esports.
As you said, 10 years ago no one could have ever really comprehended how big Starcraft is becoming and where it seems to be headed. Thanks for your great work and clearing some of the misinformation!
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"Friendship club" is one of the most embarrassing terms I have ever heard. What happened to people being... y'know... socially adept? Or how about the fact that Korean progamers are nice guys and are down for practicing with you, and DoA's post indicates?
God, some people just want to treat foreigners like little kids who need their hands held with everything now. Friendship clubs... ugh.
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god i love gom TV.
this is an organisation that actually "gets it".
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not to sound rude, but "friendship club" sounds like one of those awful after school programs in middle school :/
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Amazing post...we foreigners really appreciate your efforts. Thanks for this well-thought out post.
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While we're on the topic of how Westerners don't wanna go to Korea cos there's alot more money in the West, why doesn't Savior just go "FUCK IT I"M GONNA PLAY SC2" and then just fly to the West and rape up MLG a little bit while picking up some mercenary caaaaash.
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On May 27 2011 19:47 Parapa wrote:
Hello Teamliquid
My name is Chae Jung Won and I’m both GSL Code S commentator and manager of GSL operation team.
I’ve been reading the recent threads which have been posted at teamliquid.net.
Lot of foreign players have listed the reasons for why it’s difficult for them to come to Korea and participate in GSL. While I understand some of these, I do not understand others.
First of all I want make it clear that the purpose of this thread is not to rebut the posts I mentioned above. The decision whether to make sacrifices to attend a tournament which is extremely competitive or not is completely up to one’s own and I respect that. The only thing I’m upset about is that most of the reasons mentioned are something GOMTV can’t solve(I doubt anyone can), and as for the problems that can be solved, GOMTV is doing its best to find solution.
It’s just that this is easier said than done, because there are many things that needs to be considered, lot more than people realize.
Think of it this way. Let’s assume that there is backward universe; There is LAN tournament with equivalent size and prize pool as GSL in USA and tournaments in Korea are mostly online. If MVP, MC, Nestea and MKP were to be invited to States to participate in LAN tournament for a month(and they will be provided a place to sleep and practice like GOMTV is providing now), would they decide to go to US?
I am 100% confident that they would go. They will all fly to States to achieve their dream. Why? Simple : The tournament is worth the effort and these players have the skill to win. If you win you receive 50 thousand dollars and gain popularity from Starcraft2 fans all around the world. Barriers such as “culture/language difference” are worth enduring for such fame and money and should not be a big problem. Such barriers can be overcome if one is willing to put effort.
I am also aware that reaction on Korean community sites about foreign players declining invitation to Super Tournament because of its schedule have been translated and posted on teamliquid.net.
There seems to be misunderstanding and it must be made clear that those opinions were solely about Super Tournament. I understand that in GSL regular season, making it to Code S beginning from Code A is very difficult for foreign players as there is too much to risk, and that is why we made League Exchange program with MLG. However my interview that was posted on PlayXP was response regarding an anonymous Fnatic person’s answer concerning Super Tournament, who gave reasons such as “1month is too long” “prize pool is not deep enough” “there is language barrier”. I was little startled when the interview was posted as the tone was much more aggressive than I actually had felt. At the time I was doing the interview, my feelings were more like “hmm? Interesting”.
Now enough about the misunderstanding, as I’m sure many of you are tired of it as there was discussion thread about it for a week. I’ll move on the good news.
As many of you are aware new GSL format will be applied in July.
I’ve read many posts on teamliquid.net that people want to see more GSTL and also poll between GSL and GSTL.
There have been many same requests from Koreans too and after long consideration I have changed the format more focusing on team leagues.
However the problem with new format is that it makes it difficult for foreign teams to participate in team league as they will have to stay in Korea for 2 months.
I tried my best to solve this problem and although I admit this is not the perfect solution here it is.
Firstly, “Foreign players can now participate as a mercenary in Korean team”.
You may be able to see Jinro or Huk as member of oGs-TL in team league.
Accordingly, foreign players who come to Korea through MLG League Exchange, Rakaka tournament in Sweden, or come by themselves and qualify will not only be able to participate individual league but can also participate in GSTL as part of Korean team.
I cannot “force” the Korean teams to accept foreign players to their roster and have them play at least one set per match. However, Korean teams are willing to form alliance or partnership with foreign teams and they have stated that they will be happy to accept if there is any foreign team or player willing to join force. In fact Korean teams are very eager to recruit able foreign players.
If any foreign player who is entering GSL individual league and also wants to be part of team league feel free to contact either me or my assistant John. Through cooperation with Korean teams you will be provided with better practicing environment and opportunity to be part of GSTL.
Also I am open to idea of non-Korean team coming to Korean and play in GSTL. I’ve already received been contacted by certain team showing great interest and will soon make an announcement which will be huge surprise to many of you.
I have provided “opportunity” through “system”, and “opportunity” is all that I can provide. Creating “results” is not my job but up to the players themselves, through their will and amount of practice.
Super Tournament is being held at the moment.
I am always open to your opinions.
I do not want SC2 to be just Korean e-sports thing like Brood War was.
My goal is to make a league which viewers all around the world can enjoy and get hyped when watching.
I was 1st generation pro-gamer myself(I’m still in TLPD) and have been working in e-sports over 10 years.
Many of things that are happening now in e-sports are changes that never happened in past 10 years. I’m sure that you too feel that e-sports is evolving rapidly.
If e-sports players and technology is running at 100km/h and if GSL and other tournaments can keep up with the speed we can create many wonderful things which we only dreamed of past 10 years.
I’m always grateful to viewers who watch GSL. I will soon get back to you with great news Also I will be attending MLG Columbus together with players from Korea. I have decided to go to MLG to witness the enthusiasm of American fans with my own eyes.
Thank you
First and obviously the most important: You are fucking awesome. Post and the bit of casting I have seen (even though I don't speak Korean).
Second: The only issue now is flexibility in schedule. Will the GSL take a break when a "big" tournament takes place. If everyone works together esports will grow exponentially, but if everyone must make that one choice GSL or one foreign event then we will suffer. At most I believe for the "big" events it would be two weekends per GSL season that might be interrupted and typically 1. Thank you for your time here and paying attention to teamliquid.net.
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On May 29 2011 00:24 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 16:44 Komentaja wrote:On May 27 2011 19:47 Parapa wrote:
Hello Teamliquid
My name is Chae Jung Won and I’m both GSL Code S commentator and manager of GSL operation team.
(...)
However my interview that was posted on PlayXP was response regarding an anonymous Fnatic person’s answer concerning Super Tournament, who gave reasons such as “1month is too long” “prize pool is not deep enough” “there is language barrier”. I was little startled when the interview was posted as the tone was much more aggressive than I actually had felt. At the time I was doing the interview, my feelings were more like “hmm? Interesting”.
(...)
You don't respond to the 1 month concern and do not even mention the 2 week period you gave foreigners to respond to the invitation, which said Fanatic person cited as his most important reason. Why would you "respond" to the Fanatic person and yet not address any of his concerns? All you do is complain about his tone. I understand that tone and respect are very important to koreans, but this is unacceptable. why should he respond to false concerns ? 1. you only will be there for one month if you have a chance to go to code S through up and down, if you lose in round of 32 you can leave in only 1 week 2. Fnatic was invited 1 month in advance, not 2 week. The same amount of time they got for the GSL WC which they seems more than happy to send Sen and TT1
Can't agree more...
I don't see why more than 1 month of time is needed. 1 month is plenty of time to decide to send your players then make arrangements to live in the GOM house, buy tickets and everything.
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LOL friendship clubs is the funniest term I have heard on this thread.
GOM should arrange play dates for the foreigners tbqh
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On May 29 2011 00:59 PHC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:52 iMAniaC wrote:
[Edited out a bunch of stuff that was just a mess]
I still think that having "friendship clubs" or something like it would be a good idea.
In fact, having friendship clubs, seems to be a solution for both those who say going to Korea is hard and those who say it's not. If the argument is that it's hard because you don't have any friends, then a friendship club could fix that. If the argument is that it's easy to move to a new place, because one makes new friends, then a friendship club is a means to that end. Friendship clubs? Are you fucking serious? The people over in Korea and at GOM are reading this thread. Can people please stop with the fucking friendship clubs already? Are you insinuating the foreigners will be lonely or that it's too difficult to become friends with Koreans because of the language barrier? If you cannot make friends with the Koreans or you're having difficulty, that is YOUR problem. Not GOM's, not the Koreans. YOURS. You are NOT there to speak in Korean 8-12 hours a day. The only language you need to speak is STARCRAFT 2. Gom is not there to socially calibrate you or teach you how to build basic human relationships. Holy shit. As for practice partners: did you not read DoA's post? Korean pros are more than willing to help as practice partners. Having practice games with IMMvp? You do not need a friendship club or years of Korean language classes to make that happen.
Friendship Clubs is a truly pampered western cuddly soft and pink Carebear idea.
If you move to Korea you do it to play Starcraft and not to party and drink with others. Just as Cella said in his interview ... you need to basically give up friends to become a pro.
You cant get through life without sacrifices and you cant reach any top career without many of those. Grow up and deal with it!
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On May 29 2011 00:59 PHC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 17:52 iMAniaC wrote:
[Edited out a bunch of stuff that was just a mess]
I still think that having "friendship clubs" or something like it would be a good idea.
In fact, having friendship clubs, seems to be a solution for both those who say going to Korea is hard and those who say it's not. If the argument is that it's hard because you don't have any friends, then a friendship club could fix that. If the argument is that it's easy to move to a new place, because one makes new friends, then a friendship club is a means to that end. Friendship clubs? Are you fucking serious? The people over in Korea and at GOM are reading this thread. Can people please stop with the fucking friendship clubs already? Are you insinuating the foreigners will be lonely or that it's too difficult to become friends with Koreans because of the language barrier? If you cannot make friends with the Koreans or you're having difficulty, that is YOUR problem. Not GOM's, not the Koreans. YOURS. You are NOT there to speak in Korean 8-12 hours a day. The only language you need to speak is STARCRAFT 2. Gom is not there to socially calibrate you or teach you how to build basic human relationships. Holy shit. As for practice partners: did you not read DoA's post? Korean pros are more than willing to help as practice partners. Having practice games with IMMvp? You do not need a friendship club or years of Korean language classes to make that happen.
So obviously, "friendship clubs" was not a popular idea. For the record: I did not mean that they should speak Korean, but rather English, and I did not mean that they should spend entire days together every day, but rather meet up in the evening after their respective 12 hour practice/work/university days and have a beer or whatever, like people do with their real friends. That being said, I state this only to clarify my original meaning and I realize that the details themselves don't matter much (so we don't have to discuss them for my sake) as it's the essence of this cuddly soft and pink Carebear idea which you obviously find repulsive.
Moreover, it does seem to me that all of your questions are purely rhetoric, so unless I misinterpreted your intentions or there's something else you would actually like me to answer, I'm gonna "stop with the fucking friendship clubs already" (as in not answering posts which don't contain actual questions. But I'd just like to point it out beforehand, so you don't think I'm trolling if I don't answer).
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Well this will be insulting to some pro's but this is just my opinion:
I think the reason pro-gamers in the west are whining about how hard korea is and bladibladiblaa on friends/language/whatever is because they just make excuses.
Lets face it, this started somewhat thanks to the collosal fail of Haypro/Ret whose fans then in the shadow of Jinro/Huk/Idra started whining about shit that wasn't related. There is no bullshit hardship in korea, not incase you're a normal and nice person, I mean for gods sake IDRA had friends and had no problems in Korea... why would anyone else?
But what we got what Incontrol whining and Bill'O'Reily-ranting on the korean scene and code A making half the community suddenly believe that korea is the worst thing to hit e-sports.
As I said alot of pages back and people agreed with;
The only reason westerners are not going to korea is that they can make more money whilst performing less in the west.
Now I can't judge how these people are in real life and I understand them somewhat, but I for one dislike and really have no respect for people like InControl who don't want koreans in MLG because "they'll never drop out" or will "dominate it", well tough shit for you, awesome for ME, the VIEWER and the majority of the community: If you're getting your ass kicked then fucking practice and win, stop whining at koreans/korea.
As someone said; There are people in Code A who when they get to pick players choose former champions or top names... they want to prove themselves and fight against the very best. All I hear from half the american community is fucking whining about the skill of koreans. For fuck sake even Sweden owns you and we're a country of 9 million, New York itself should produce more nerds than our entire country. Yet what you guys have is people like InControl who can't keep his mouth shut for five minutes without bashing or insulting something that is vastly superior to anything he'd achieve.
Now I agree Code A should change its pricemoney, it's retarded having it at 1500$. But for someone like me who is a poor student and pay for both GSL/NASL I feel insulted as a viewer and as a member of the community when all these bullshit excuses come up about Korea when it's just about pure greed and economics. You might make alot of money but in due time you'll lose fans. I've travelled alot in my life and I can't for the life of me see how a month in korea couldn't be the best thing to happen to a pro-gamer, if you're so lonely then go there with 1 other person you know and just play ladder and explore Soel, from what I see on US streams and the opponents of Idra etc. just practicing on the korean ladder should be a boost in anyones overall skill level.
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GOM has gone beyond what I could reasonably expect from them in terms of accomodating non korean foreigners and fans alike.
Code S prizes could be adjusted to be a bit less top heavy but that's the socialist swede in me talking. Code A is fine. It's a qualifier, nothing more. It would be like players whining that you don't get any money from the group play in NASL or IGN. Exactly the same arguments can be applied so please for the love of everything people, drop it. Code A prize pool is fine. In fact it might even be better if they remove all monetary rewards from Code A so people don't have any misgivings.
As others have said, GOM is paying every mlg top 4 to fly to korea for a month and participate. Who the hell would turn that down? Seriously?
FREE TRIP TO KOREA!
Just think about that for a moment.
If you get rolled in Code A or Code S due to bad luck, which can happen, then you can spend the rest of the month practicing with koreans or if you miss mother too much FLY BACK. People don't seem to realize the opportunity this presents, who exactly would be crippled financially for training with top dogs for one month? It's not a 10 year commitment, it's 30 fucking days.
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Dear Chae Jung Won,
I am new to the e-sport scene and I have been subscribing to Gom TV (I also subscribed to NASL). I am your targeted customer.
First and foremost I find Xeris's post in regards to your tournament is inappropriate. Blaming organizer for their own inabilities is lame on the public forum. It struck to me as if there is some hidden agenda as to the purpose of the post. You are completely right on the fact that all of the reasoning's are to not be resolved by the organizers and are in fact personal issues that they find difficult to deal with.
But is Korea really for everyone? It is like pro basketball players in other countries debating whether or not to play (or bench..) in the NBA.... Some see potential in their own growth and may be a learning experience, will be willing to take the risk involved, but a little more established players will find that risk a little too much, as they can see immediate success and return in their comfort zone.
I can not speak for E-sports as a whole, but having foreign players in GSL will definitely increase viewership and recognition for your league, AND for the foreign player (team). There should be no dispute as to the level of recognition of the GSL is higher than ANY other leagues in e-sports at the moment. I am not saying the other leagues/tournaments/productions are not as good (though i feel it is 100% true), however, their viewership are most definitely part of your audience as well. The reverse can not be said, so it puts the GSL above other leagues.
Unlike some of the poster's views, however, I do agree the GSL must do "MORE" to accommodate TOP foreign players. Allowing foreign teams to participate is a brilliant and forward step for the e-sport / GOM TV / industry. But only the first step. Making it desirable, rewarding and competitive is the next. And as current feedback from foreign teams show, it is not there yet. Making it desirable for foreign teams to fight to get the spot to play in the GSL, where only the best are showcased, are to the best interest of all parties involved. Having foreign team's only striving for exposure, potential in growth, is nice and all, but the result at this stage of the change is counterintuitive. Maintaining a HIGH level of competition is more important for the GSL in my opinion. And to invite that level of players may require a little more incentive. Look at Yao Ming (I am Chinese). Yao Ming wasn't even that great of a player, but his treatment in to the NBA is quite hard to turn down. At the end of the day, its GOM TV that is getting (if any) immediate reward for increasing viewership and international recognition.
As for whether or not it is the team's/player's responsibility to advance e-sport's growth as whole, I believe the growth of e-sport WILL benefit the players in the end. So I think it is up to individual players to make the sacrifice and explore areas that will ultimately reward them in the future. But like my high school basketball coach told me, I could either bench for the First team or play as an integral part of the Second team, its not always an easy decision. It is hard to say which will pay off in the end as well. Skill can be developed in many different ways and routines...
Finally, Mr. Xeris, your post showed us some of your personal concerns and priorities as a manager of your team. But your conflict of interest is showing when you discredit the organizer's for personal issues and inabilities. Being an international (or non regional) team certainly requires adaptations to foreign circumstances. Perhaps you believe you have a better idea on how to run a league/tournament, nonetheless I find your post a little mis-informing.
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On May 29 2011 22:12 kardinal wrote:
GOM has gone beyond what I could reasonably expect from them in terms of accomodating non korean foreigners and fans alike.
Code S prizes could be adjusted to be a bit less top heavy but that's the socialist swede in me talking. Code A is fine. It's a qualifier, nothing more. It would be like players whining that you don't get any money from the group play in NASL or IGN. Exactly the same arguments can be applied so please for the love of everything people, drop it. Code A prize pool is fine. In fact it might even be better if they remove all monetary rewards from Code A so people don't have any misgivings.
As others have said, GOM is paying every mlg top 4 to fly to korea for a month and participate. Who the hell would turn that down? Seriously?
FREE TRIP TO KOREA!
Just think about that for a moment.
If you get rolled in Code A or Code S due to bad luck, which can happen, then you can spend the rest of the month practicing with koreans or if you miss mother too much FLY BACK. People don't seem to realize the opportunity this presents, who exactly would be crippled financially for training with top dogs for one month? It's not a 10 year commitment, it's 30 fucking days.
With the new format change especially now that code a round of 32 and 16 happen over 5 days if you get knocked out you can choose to go back home right away, its all expenses paid and there is nothing keeping you there. I dont understand how anyone (without serious personal commitments in their home country) could turn down an all expenses paid trip to korea to give a shot at code a or code s depending on where you place in MLG. It seems like an extraordinary opportunity, even just above and beyond participating in the most competitive tournament in the world right now, its an all expenses paid trip to a very nice foreign country in asia!
I think that players would be foolish to pass up on such an opportunity. The people who say that 30 days is a huge commitment clearly dont travel much if ever, people go on 1 -2 month vacations all the time without thinking to much about it, they dont have to quit their job they will still have all their friends when they come back and they do these trips spending their own money. This MLG exchange program is freaking all expenses paid!
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On May 29 2011 14:44 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 19:47 Parapa wrote:
Hello Teamliquid
My name is Chae Jung Won and I’m both GSL Code S commentator and manager of GSL operation team.
I’ve been reading the recent threads which have been posted at teamliquid.net.
Lot of foreign players have listed the reasons for why it’s difficult for them to come to Korea and participate in GSL. While I understand some of these, I do not understand others.
First of all I want make it clear that the purpose of this thread is not to rebut the posts I mentioned above. The decision whether to make sacrifices to attend a tournament which is extremely competitive or not is completely up to one’s own and I respect that. The only thing I’m upset about is that most of the reasons mentioned are something GOMTV can’t solve(I doubt anyone can), and as for the problems that can be solved, GOMTV is doing its best to find solution.
It’s just that this is easier said than done, because there are many things that needs to be considered, lot more than people realize.
Think of it this way. Let’s assume that there is backward universe; There is LAN tournament with equivalent size and prize pool as GSL in USA and tournaments in Korea are mostly online. If MVP, MC, Nestea and MKP were to be invited to States to participate in LAN tournament for a month(and they will be provided a place to sleep and practice like GOMTV is providing now), would they decide to go to US?
I am 100% confident that they would go. They will all fly to States to achieve their dream. Why? Simple : The tournament is worth the effort and these players have the skill to win. If you win you receive 50 thousand dollars and gain popularity from Starcraft2 fans all around the world. Barriers such as “culture/language difference” are worth enduring for such fame and money and should not be a big problem. Such barriers can be overcome if one is willing to put effort.
I am also aware that reaction on Korean community sites about foreign players declining invitation to Super Tournament because of its schedule have been translated and posted on teamliquid.net.
There seems to be misunderstanding and it must be made clear that those opinions were solely about Super Tournament. I understand that in GSL regular season, making it to Code S beginning from Code A is very difficult for foreign players as there is too much to risk, and that is why we made League Exchange program with MLG. However my interview that was posted on PlayXP was response regarding an anonymous Fnatic person’s answer concerning Super Tournament, who gave reasons such as “1month is too long” “prize pool is not deep enough” “there is language barrier”. I was little startled when the interview was posted as the tone was much more aggressive than I actually had felt. At the time I was doing the interview, my feelings were more like “hmm? Interesting”.
Now enough about the misunderstanding, as I’m sure many of you are tired of it as there was discussion thread about it for a week. I’ll move on the good news.
As many of you are aware new GSL format will be applied in July.
I’ve read many posts on teamliquid.net that people want to see more GSTL and also poll between GSL and GSTL.
There have been many same requests from Koreans too and after long consideration I have changed the format more focusing on team leagues.
However the problem with new format is that it makes it difficult for foreign teams to participate in team league as they will have to stay in Korea for 2 months.
I tried my best to solve this problem and although I admit this is not the perfect solution here it is.
Firstly, “Foreign players can now participate as a mercenary in Korean team”.
You may be able to see Jinro or Huk as member of oGs-TL in team league.
Accordingly, foreign players who come to Korea through MLG League Exchange, Rakaka tournament in Sweden, or come by themselves and qualify will not only be able to participate individual league but can also participate in GSTL as part of Korean team.
I cannot “force” the Korean teams to accept foreign players to their roster and have them play at least one set per match. However, Korean teams are willing to form alliance or partnership with foreign teams and they have stated that they will be happy to accept if there is any foreign team or player willing to join force. In fact Korean teams are very eager to recruit able foreign players.
If any foreign player who is entering GSL individual league and also wants to be part of team league feel free to contact either me or my assistant John. Through cooperation with Korean teams you will be provided with better practicing environment and opportunity to be part of GSTL.
Also I am open to idea of non-Korean team coming to Korean and play in GSTL. I’ve already received been contacted by certain team showing great interest and will soon make an announcement which will be huge surprise to many of you.
I have provided “opportunity” through “system”, and “opportunity” is all that I can provide. Creating “results” is not my job but up to the players themselves, through their will and amount of practice.
Super Tournament is being held at the moment.
I am always open to your opinions.
I do not want SC2 to be just Korean e-sports thing like Brood War was.
My goal is to make a league which viewers all around the world can enjoy and get hyped when watching.
I was 1st generation pro-gamer myself(I’m still in TLPD) and have been working in e-sports over 10 years.
Many of things that are happening now in e-sports are changes that never happened in past 10 years. I’m sure that you too feel that e-sports is evolving rapidly.
If e-sports players and technology is running at 100km/h and if GSL and other tournaments can keep up with the speed we can create many wonderful things which we only dreamed of past 10 years.
I’m always grateful to viewers who watch GSL. I will soon get back to you with great news Also I will be attending MLG Columbus together with players from Korea. I have decided to go to MLG to witness the enthusiasm of American fans with my own eyes.
Thank you
First and obviously the most important: You are fucking awesome. Post and the bit of casting I have seen (even though I don't speak Korean). Second: The only issue now is flexibility in schedule. Will the GSL take a break when a "big" tournament takes place. If everyone works together esports will grow exponentially, but if everyone must make that one choice GSL or one foreign event then we will suffer. At most I believe for the "big" events it would be two weekends per GSL season that might be interrupted and typically 1. Thank you for your time here and paying attention to teamliquid.net.
The thing is that there already is flexibility for all major tournaments, think about it any of those major tournaments in the west your talking about has koreans participating in it now except IPL wich is ALL online anyways. NASL, MLG , DH, IEM all have or will have koreans in the GSL participating in their tournaments so obviously gom is working their schedule around that.
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