EPTOn May 27 2011 22:26 bistri wrote:
ROOT-SlayerS would be the most awesome thing ever!
ROOT-SlayerS would be the most awesome thing ever!
Oh god please no. Keep ROOT away from SlayerS.
GomTV caster: "Growth of e-sports" - Page 12
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ct2299
380 Posts
Oh god please no. Keep ROOT away from SlayerS. | ||
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monkh
United Kingdom568 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:39 Blitz Beat wrote: Wheat, do you believe the early success of SC2 is due to hype and is a bubble waiting to burst or is sustainable? Because in my opinion, the west is experiencing a bubble. There's a huge influx of money and interest. Lots of leagues and tournaments popping up everywhere. However, A) There might be too much content/too small of an audience and B) Corporate interest will wane as the hype dies down. What the GSL and Korea is establishing/trying to establish seems to be a more sustainable and stable scene for the future where as the west seems to be trying to cash in right now. I don't think referring to it as a bubble is fair. bubble imply's it'll burst the interest will have its up and downs but I don't think it'll burst think Starcraft 2 will have enough interest in it to keep enough sponsors in it than there has ever been in a previous e-sport and I don't think anything will come that will match it for a long time well over 5 years after final expansion atleast and even then itll still stay strong. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On May 27 2011 21:26 videogames wrote: Foreigners just aren't good enough to win a GSL. They know this and that's the real reason why they won't go. It's very easy to make these grand statements but what if it was your livelihood on the line? Would you take a tremendous financial risk and leave home/place to live/source of income just on the offshoot you CAN beat MC or Nestea or someone and win a GSL? Even if you're a contender most individuals are risk averse enough to not opt for travel. Stop throwing these melodramatic lines around. | ||
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Bombmk
Denmark95 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:39 Blitz Beat wrote: What the GSL and Korea is establishing/trying to establish seems to be a more sustainable and stable scene for the future where as the west seems to be trying to cash in right now. Don't think its quite as sinister as that though. Of course people are doing their best to create as much attention as possible while the opportunity is there. But I don't think any of them are doing it without the hope that it can be something sustainable. Are they going about it the best way? That can be debated, but I doubt they are knowingly going about it a wrong way for deliberate financial reasons. Is a specific game at all "sustainable" these days? Could be argued that SC1/BW in Korea is a freak occurence, fx. While E-sports is growing, I still have my doubts on whether specific games can be the driving force for many years, before something else takes over and would be the featured game. Hard to predict at least.  | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:53 See.Blue wrote: It's very easy to make these grand statements but what if it was your livelihood on the line? Would you take a tremendous financial risk and leave home/place to live/source of income just on the offshoot you CAN beat MC or Nestea or someone and win a GSL? Even if you're a contender most individuals are risk averse enough to not opt for travel. Stop throwing these melodramatic lines around. I know I'd do it. If I were good enough at SC. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
I realise that you guys probably hear a fair number of complaints from the TL community, and because this is the internet the negative voices tend to be the loudest. So I just wanted to say that there are a LOT of people out there (like me) who think you guys are doing a wonderful job and hope that you keep up the good work. GSL fighting! | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
Here's a video of him if you were wondering who he was: | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
I feel like GSL has the best intentions with the players of the rest of the world however I do have some comments about your theory of the backward universe. I'd like to add a few things to add to this backward universe then that you have forgotten and weighs heavily into the consideration of foreign players. 1. Lets say not Korea but the rest have world have played Starcraft 1 intensively for the last decade and we have various gaming powerhouses who live and breathe starcraft every day and in turn this resulted in great Starcraft 2 houses too. 2. Lets say Korea has loads of online tournaments where the prize pools individually might not be as big as the rest of the world only tournament but the prize pools range from 5000 and 10000 each small tournament and its run in such a way that they can compete in several at the same time(much like NASL/IPL/TSL/EG Master's Cup and so on. Not only that Korea's competition would be at such a lvl that many players feel like they a chance at it. If they lose 1 that tournament well hell...there is allways that other tournament with the fairly big prize pool 3. With all these "smaller" tournaments these Korean online leagues have created many new heroes like a player called Thorzain who on top of that got himself a brand new team to go to more tournaments and players like white-ra who uses "Special Tactics" who are considered awesome through winning many of these smaller tournaments. Hilarious comments in some tournaments of players telling a well known caster to "GET OUT". All in all so many emotional moments to live and remember with all these great online tournaments. 4. Lets say in this alternate universe the players from korea get a chance to go 1 months to a foreign country and train only for 1 tournament. Not only that but amount of players with amazingly high skill is so dense that you feel like actually winning this tournaments is quite small and I cant even compete normally in my regular tournaments because of the amount of latency. Also I feel that I can make a good living of gaming because I won some smaller tournaments in my own region and have gained quite abit of popularity there. Well this is quite a hard choice. The upside of going to this 1 tournaments is the chance to know a great foreign culture and maybe increase my skill and the chance for 1 huge prize pool which I may reach if get through code A with all these amazing players who could be in code S and then in Code S I might reach the finals if I plough through the best players in the world who are probably more skilled than I am. I might catch up in skill though if I practice with these foreigners for about a half a year or more. Still in the back of mind lingers..... "I was so good and popular in my own region and won so many tournaments...what happend? " I write this post not to be trolling or anything. These are thought that would run through my mind if I was one of the top players in "The rest of the world". I love watching GSL...but I enjoy our own tournaments just as much and wouldnt want to miss them for the world. | ||
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TehRaZer
36 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:12 Bombmk wrote: most western players lead more wellrounded lives (the use of the word wellrounded is definately a subjective assesment, But I will stand by it). The foreigners are simply giving up more to go to Korea than the Koreans would be giving up by going to the US. On average. This is just ignorant. I can write about how rich Korean life and culture is, and the sacrifices these gamers are making by pursuing their progamer dreams, but it would just be futile to argue about cultural differences. (I hope I don’t have to explain why. It’s so obvious that anyone bringing it up is just obviously biased and being a jerk about it.) And I don’t see why people from non-western countries can be a fan of western idols but not the other way around. | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
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jlim
Spain943 Posts
MERCENARIES! Now I wish I was good enough at sc2 to go there and rock the GSL, mr. Chae pumped me all up | ||
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DexVitality
Hong Kong234 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
But indeed this is still great news and a very good mature respone from you, thank you! | ||
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imbecile
563 Posts
As it stands, the foreigners that really wanna come to compete there and are not primarily in it for the money, but for the challenge and experience and glory will come and have better conditions than ever before. Most of the non-Korean players are not 100% professional gamers and are only finding out how to live as a professional gamer and make it work, but also have other responsibilities outside playing. Many study. Some have wives. Some have kids. Some have jobs. Quite a few have contractual obligations with sponsors and tournaments and broadcasters that conflict with GSL schedules. So the number of candidates which can maybe have some success after coming over will be very limited, a few dozen at most. And of those few dozen most will have circumstances and priorities that prevent them from coming that GOM can do nothing about. | ||
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robin19999
Netherlands246 Posts
Keep on the good work. | ||
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
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