EPTGomTV caster: "Growth of e-sports" - Page 11
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bistri
Croatia72 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:22 pieman819 wrote: Sorry it came out harsher than I meant lol. Sheth is really the only one with recent form is what I meant, I havent been following SEA so Filthy Ice etc I haven't seen in a while. I also think a team like Mouz or Dignitas has more proven top teir players so I would like to see how they stack up in GSL. *cough moonan cough* | ||
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Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
I am very excited that the GSTL will be more prominent in the future, for me the GSTL format is the most exciting and produce the most epic games ^^. One thing I would like to ask Gom is whether they have ever consider hosting like a smaller weekend tournament akin to MLG, Dreamhack..etc (maybe like once every 2 months). I think more foreign players might be more willing to tryout for such a tournament since the time and money commitment will be just over a few days instead of a month (or 2) like the GSL. This can also help circumvent many of the other problems such as language, lifestyle, away from family... I guess what I am saying is that moving abroad for a month is a very big change while moving for a few days sounds less intimidating. Also, those that do go might have a positive experience and may end up staying for the GSL. | ||
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kvn4444
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Applecakes
Australia319 Posts
Also, despite the problems some players and teams may have with moving to Korea to play Starcraft, you can't (and I don't believe the players and teams in question do not) fault GOM for providing such opportunity for the foreign scene. It's amazing to see these kind of olive branches - especially after 10 years of isolated BW competition. | ||
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VGhost
United States3618 Posts
Obviously it's not just the money thing since MLG/GSL are providing transport/lodging, but it seems to me that until the west reaches the point where the teams are the foundation and call most of the shots for their players (though hopefully without repeats ridiculousness like T1's one starleague rule), we're going to be handicapped in comparison to Korea. (Maybe we're here already and I just don't know it? But most announcements I see are "this player" rather than "this team", so I'm guessing not.) If GSL, for instance, had a roster of teams eligible to send players to qualifiers/earn points towards team league play, then it seems like you could get whole teams involved (some people have mentioned dignitas for instance) and structure things that way... idk, I'm speculating here mainly. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
I wish I could hear their thoughts on the other reasons why some players are choosing to not goto Korea, and that's the fact that the number of frequency of NA/EU tournaments has increased 10 fold. I honestly believe that we'll see Koreans want to travel and participate in these tournaments very soon (we're already seeing the beginning of this process). However, I'm excited to hear that we might get some international teams in GSTL. It's really been a fantastic addition to the GSL. | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
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TooN
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omg omg omg | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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Xacalite
Germany533 Posts
<3 you guys, everything you did was awsome and you will be the best league forever. PS: I hope my undying love for GOMTV does not contradict the OP. I really like western SC2 but it compares in no way to south korea. | ||
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WinteRR
Australia201 Posts
These posts aimed at the community mean a LOT. I wish all the best for GOMTV and SC2 as it's the greatest esport  | ||
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namedplayer
844 Posts
GSL wants foreigners who have decent chance to win GSL. GSL don't want people who are concerning failing in RO64 due to lack of skill, lack of confidence etc. Mr.Chae mentioned MKP,MVP,MC,Nestea because he thinks that they would go to Korea and compete GSL if they were foreigners. Nobody wants refuse to go Korea if they have decent chance to get 92k just for one month. Look Naniwa. He wants to go to Korea because he thinks he has high chance to win. people that like him, are the people GSL wants. | ||
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Blitz Beat
United States178 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:30 djWHEAT wrote: There are some great pieces of information and changes here. Props to GSL. I wish I could hear their thoughts on the other reasons why some players are choosing to not goto Korea, and that's the fact that the number of frequency of NA/EU tournaments has increased 10 fold. I honestly believe that we'll see Koreans want to travel and participate in these tournaments very soon (we're already seeing the beginning of this process). However, I'm excited to hear that we might get some international teams in GSTL. It's really been a fantastic addition to the GSL. Wheat, do you believe the early success of SC2 is due to hype and is a bubble waiting to burst or is sustainable? Because in my opinion, the west is experiencing a bubble. There's a huge influx of money and interest. Lots of leagues and tournaments popping up everywhere. However, A) There might be too much content/too small of an audience and B) Corporate interest will wane as the hype dies down. What the GSL and Korea is establishing/trying to establish seems to be a more sustainable and stable scene for the future where as the west seems to be trying to cash in right now. | ||
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Coolwhip
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:10 TanX wrote: The money required to actually go there? The time away from your family? The lack of money-earning potential considering the small chances that you have of actually getting anywhere. (not that foreigners are bad, but there are so many other players that actually getting to the top is easier said than done) But I do like the main post. And I can't wait to hear the news concerning the foreign team that might actually go!!! :D Money? It's called teams and sponsors. Time away from your family? It's called being a big boy, you're trying to do this for a living aren't you? Most of the players are old enough to not need their diapers changed. If your personal reasons to not go are more powerful than going, stop whining. It's your problem that you don't want to go not GOMs. This family thing makes people sound more like spoiled brats rather than serious individuals trying to follow a dream. Adversity is part of life, more so when following a hard to reach goal. The only problem I see is that most teams are just too short on cash so it's impossible for them to support players long term in Korea but wth, instead of trying to find more money they shouldn't go whine at GOM to make things cheaper, especially since they did as much as they could. You want to grow the industry not cheapen it/beg for freebies, don't you? The solution to all this is for more money to go to teams/bigger and better sponsors. | ||
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FindMeInKenya
United States797 Posts
Liquid.Jinro EG.Idra Fnatic.SEn Dignitas.Naniwa Whitera Mouz.Thorzain mTw.Dimaga Dignitas.Select Root.Kiwikaki Someone get these 9 players together and form 1 team to compete in Korea!!! | ||
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Oriatis
Austria57 Posts
I for my part would love to see the foreigners competing in a GSTL and the thought of your solution sounds very intriguing | ||
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:30 djWHEAT wrote: There are some great pieces of information and changes here. Props to GSL. I wish I could hear their thoughts on the other reasons why some players are choosing to not goto Korea, and that's the fact that the number of frequency of NA/EU tournaments has increased 10 fold. I honestly believe that we'll see Koreans want to travel and participate in these tournaments very soon (we're already seeing the beginning of this process). However, I'm excited to hear that we might get some international teams in GSTL. It's really been a fantastic addition to the GSL. So foreigners wont go to korea because of all the NA/EU tourneys but the Koreans can come to compete in them as well as being in GSL? or do you mean guys who didn't make code A will start coming over? Losing r 32 in code S = 4th place MLG as far a prizemoney goes and you'd need to win 10 weekly cups to = that. | ||
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Lizarb
Denmark307 Posts
Could also add to the "story" of a tournament. Team A went out and got a mercenary to help boost their Terran/Zerg/Protoss strength. | ||
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