EPToGs.MC tweets about Dreamhack Finals (Spoiler) - Page 25
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 16 2011 06:11 Contagious wrote: the object is to win a fucking game. Why is everyone bitching? lol It's as if people don't expect someone to cheese in a pvp. Hopefully an admin combs through here and bans people, because people need to learn that cheese is part of the game - even at the highest level. (Boxer bunker rushed 3 times to win an osl over yellow, yet we look back at that and think its brilliant. What MC did was pretty damn smart/ballsy. So props to him  .) | ||
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HandleTaken
Sweden81 Posts
Don't blame MC for using what he thought was optimum strategy within the rules of the game against White-Ra. Should MC play suboptimal in a game for $15K when he does this for a living? I was cheering for White-Ra but I have alot of respect for a great player like MC. | ||
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Kracklings
United States116 Posts
if you complain about cheese you obviously misunderstand the concept of winning by any means necessary | ||
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Escapist
Portugal548 Posts
Hes a solid protoss and a very intense player...with 15.000 on the line he just went for the kill and im sure that plenty of the "offended virgins" insisting on this subject would do the same thing if they had to make a clutch decision. Its his job on the line and the more he profits from it the more personal benefits he will reap. Congrats MC, can only hope for a BO15 between you and WhiteRa soon  | ||
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
MC did the right thing, it's part of the game. To accept SC2 both as a spectator and a player, you must accept cheese. | ||
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RedZack
Germany58 Posts
And we (the foreigners, non-koreans, w/e), should be amazed by the fact that a korean pro cares enough about "our" scene that he tweets about it :D Edit: I heard White-Ra cares too, but that's another topic ;-) | ||
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
On April 16 2011 02:14 Ownos wrote: LOL I hate that article. Read it years ago. Marred by a sense of elitism and contradictions. First half: "Lol don't make arbitrary rules scrub" Second part: "Don't use Akuma, or certain exploits... we can make these rules because we are pro and therefore JUSTIFIED" What? He admits to grey area stuff like this though. Haha The first and second parts are not contradictory at all if you actually pay attention to what he's saying. There's a difference between arbitrary rules made to protect "fun" and rules designed to prevent the cheapening of the game with unbeatable strats (the key word being unbeatable, not "op"). The second part is meant to lay out that certain aspects of a game can be legitimately broken, and if they can't be patched, they should be avoided by the players or risk every game being defined by a single, dominating strategy. If one aspect makes the overall game incredibly shallow by besting every other strat, that's the point where you patch it out/ban it. For example, it would be completely broken if sentries started with mana for psi storm (like in the blizzard april fool's patch notes) and it would make 2/3rds of the game really shallow and would therefore have to be banned/patched out. Also, 150 mineral spawning pools for delicious 6pool action every game. | ||
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Black.
Brazil72 Posts
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On April 16 2011 07:40 mmdmmd wrote: Cheesing in SC2 is a very sensitive subject because it's so powerful. Some people keep saying "because the game is not figured out yet". But IMHO, it will be here forever unless Blizz removes the underlining mechanics that caused this in the first place. No amount of units tweaking will fix the power of cheese in sc2. MC did the right thing, it's part of the game. To accept SC2 both as a spectator and a player, you must accept cheese. Uh.. Cheesing wasn't all that weak in sc:bw either you know. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On April 16 2011 06:11 Contagious wrote: the object is to win a fucking game. Why is everyone bitching? lol People are angry cause they've lost to this build on the ladder at least once and feel disheartened that it surfaced in a professional level tournament. People expect a lot not only from people that run tournaments but also the players to keep the community entertained. At least nobody in this thread lost $15,000 losing to this build but they sure act like it. | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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xiaoW
Netherlands284 Posts
Look at Boxer in 2004 in the Ever OSL Semi-Finals for example, he bunker rushed Yellow 3 times because he KNEW Yellow was going to fast expand and won the game no problem. Tons of people disliked his way of winning back then, just like some people do right now. Almost every top player will do some early pushes/all-ins every now and then to throw people off or to take advantage of a certain situation.Too bad some people don’t realize this and continue BM'ing and hating instead of enjoying and understanding the brilliance of one’s tactical play. To all those ignorant people: ‘Don’t hate but appreciate.’ | ||
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chaopow
United States556 Posts
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AbeToss
United States60 Posts
On April 16 2011 10:59 chaopow wrote: Speaking of MC....Apparently hes playing on the North American Server now!!! I just played him on ladder....got roflstomped. Hes currently 18-0 in masters. Hes probably prepping for NASL, and I doubt this is a fake account. Care to post the replay?? | ||
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