EPTGrandmaster League Info Thread - Page 5
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lethal111
Canada460 Posts
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CherubDown
United States171 Posts
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
The current approach just seems to negate aspiring players advancement/promotion. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Really doesn't make any sense at all. | ||
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Naughty
United States114 Posts
On April 12 2011 11:21 -orb- wrote: So dumb that you can get in top 200 and then lose 90% of your games for the rest of the season and remain in GM league. Really doesn't make any sense at all. you would have to play a lot of games at a 10% win rate to spend your bonus pool fast enough, while on paper I do not like how easy it looks for a player to stay in the league it will be interesting to see how much wins vs loss' a player will have to maintain to spend there bonus pool fast enough. | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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CapnCDaWg
United States179 Posts
On April 12 2011 11:28 Naughty wrote: you would have to play a lot of games at a 10% win rate to spend your bonus pool fast enough, while on paper I do not like how easy it looks for a player to stay in the league it will be interesting to see how much wins vs loss' a player will have to maintain to spend there bonus pool fast enough. Pretty sure you can go 2-18 in a couple days and still have a 0 bonus pool, I agree with orb. Just because I was on vacation for the first week that the patch came out, I won't be in the top 200 tomorrow, and won't be in GM League till next season | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
And that's it. | ||
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
whole point of grandmaster is for the pros to be init so people can actually follow their progress w/o the need for sc2ranks, so that even the public people can be attached to players more easily. And it makes the first 2 weeks of each season more competitive and fun for the pros | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:46 SDream wrote: I can't wait to see diamond guys having GM status on LA server, must stalk them and see if they can ever win any points! It's not like being in GM somehow changes your matchmaking and your MMR, rite? | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:47 chuDr3t4 wrote: It's not like being in GM somehow changes your matchmaking and your MMR, rite? Do you know the bronze "bug"? I am talking about something similar happening to them if GM league has too high offsets. | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
On April 12 2011 12:52 SDream wrote: Do you know the bronze "bug"? I am talking about something similar happening to them if GM league has too high offsets. Bronze zero anomaly? I thought that was fixed in 1.3. | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
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KneeDeeP
United States256 Posts
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CookieMaker
Canada880 Posts
On April 12 2011 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote: If all of the top 200 players who have been preselected all play their games right when the league goes live, they will stay in that league for the entire season regardless of performance, as long as they are able to keep their bonus pool below 270. Basically this is to showcase the top 200 players on the server but the activity requirement is there to keep the league from stagnating. If it were just the top 200 then the bottom ~70-80ish slots would probably be fluctuating constantly. Exactly.... Why is that bad??? It should have lower-bound mmr "cutoff" equal to the 200th person's mmr or slightly above because mmr's have potential to be volatile | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Do you play Master's then? That's pretty lousy :x | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On April 12 2011 13:12 Torte de Lini wrote: How would matchmaking work? Since you're in GM, there's only 200 people in your league. Do you play Master's then? That's pretty lousy :x The same way it works now: you get matched against anyone with your MMR who's looking for a game. Leagues don't enter into it. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
I feel bad for the REAL top 200 that can't get in once its locked... edit: and to those of you guys that don't understand...its ridiculously easy to spend bonus pool. You can lose 20 games, your mmr will be BAD and you can win so easily. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
On April 12 2011 11:21 -orb- wrote: So dumb that you can get in top 200 and then lose 90% of your games for the rest of the season and remain in GM league. Really doesn't make any sense at all. After thinking this through, I don't think this is possible. If you lose more than 50% of your games, your MMR will fall over time. As soon as it falls far below your displayed rating, you're going to be gaining like 1-2 points per win. If the system works consistently, and you kept losing more than 50% of your games your MMR would eventually fall so low that you'd get 0 points for wins and like -17 for a loss to MC himself - at that point, almost no matter what you do you couldn't blow your bonus pool fast enough to stay in the league. It really turns on how MMR interacts with displayed rating in GM leagues - if GM leagues start at 0 and there's no modifier applied to the MMR to determine "desired" displayed rating, you pretty much will have to actually try to fall out of GM league, but if it starts at, say, 4000 or something it would be a lot harder to stay there. | ||
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