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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:06 sad.wish wrote: Did they just did a server restart on SEA and china? or was it maintenance? They released a patch that fixed some bugs, and grandmaster was added too. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On April 12 2011 13:23 Lysenko wrote: I'm not sure why people are complaining about this, when GSL picks people for Code S & Code A and then they keep that status for a season even when they lose. The idea for GSL is that that season's Code S get to fight it out for the season -- some Code A guy who does really well can't knock a Code S competitor out until a new season starts. Grandmaster league is exactly the same thing -- the best people on a certain day become the league for the next season. Someone below them who gets a lot better will just be in the league the following season. the issue is, GSL lasts just under a month and then players have up/down and based on ability cycle through. The GM league will last around around 8 to 9 months with players having no way to get in purely on skill once the season has been set. and that time period is way to long. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:08 KiF1rE wrote: the issue is, GSL lasts just under a month and then players have up/down and based on ability cycle through. The GM league will last around around 8 to 9 months with players having no way to get in purely on skill once the season has been set. and that time period is way to long. no it won't last that long, they plan on doing seasons that end every few months (I think 2-3 is their goal might be wrong though). The reason "season 1" lasted forever wasn't intentional. So it sounds like they plan on sticking with a shorter plan now from season 2 onwards. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:08 KiF1rE wrote: The GM league will last around around 8 to 9 months with players having no way to get in purely on skill once the season has been set. and that time period is way to long. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the GM league will last anywhere near that long. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:10 kzn wrote: There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the GM league will last anywhere near that long. season 1, but there is also no evidence to my knowledge that it wont. | ||
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BankaiPwn
Canada40 Posts
Why not just take the top 200 MMR's per week? The fluctuation should be motivation to improve for those top players I would think and it's not like it'd be entirely difficult to implement. | ||
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Silu
Finland165 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:12 KiF1rE wrote: season 1, but there is also no evidence to my knowledge that it wont. Except multiple very clear statements by Blizzard that the target time for a season is 3 months. Still, far too long for a GM lockout... I mean constant rolling changes would be too much, but with some kind of slack it should work just fine. Just like the other league promotes, but a bit more conservative since someone has to fall out for someone to get in. | ||
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KOtical
Germany451 Posts
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:10 blade55555 wrote: no it won't last that long, they plan on doing seasons that end every few months (I think 2-3 is their goal might be wrong though). The reason "season 1" lasted forever wasn't intentional. So it sounds like they plan on sticking with a shorter plan now from season 2 onwards. Give some facts to that or otherwise its just speculation and opinions on what you think would be logical. The only history we have of sc2 seasons is that season 1 lasted from release of the game ---> march, thats around 8-9 months. What's saying that this season wouldn't last to, hmm, HoTS? | ||
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Happy Frog
Australia490 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:47 Silu wrote: Except multiple very clear statements by Blizzard that the target time for a season is 3 months. Source? Not disagreeing, just don't recall seeing that anywhere. | ||
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reprise
Canada316 Posts
On April 12 2011 16:07 JoxxOr wrote: Give some facts to that or otherwise its just speculation and opinions on what you think would be logical. The only history we have of sc2 seasons is that season 1 lasted from release of the game ---> march, thats around 8-9 months. What's saying that this season wouldn't last to, hmm, HoTS? I distinctly remember reading somewhere that they intended for seasons to be 3-4 months long, but a quick search hasn't yielded a link. The initial WoW arena season lasted much longer than intended, and subsequent season were much shorter. | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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Ticcie
Netherlands43 Posts
On April 12 2011 16:25 arew wrote: Anyone knows what CET time grandmaster will be launched in EU? Should be Wednesday around 11 CET iirc. Two weeks after the patch, which Europe always gets last. The system seems pretty solid. Waiting two weeks before demotion is a nice period, especially considering the pro's may also need an occasional vacation, or travel to other continents to play etc. Demotion based on skill dropping would also be a nice addition, but then again, a Grandmaster staying active, but dropping in skill and thus struggling to remain in the GM league would add some drama to the whole thing instead of seeing players constantly drop out of and enter GM ranks 100-200. | ||
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Cent
Canada155 Posts
On April 12 2011 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote: If all of the top 200 players who have been preselected all play their games right when the league goes live, they will stay in that league for the entire season regardless of performance, as long as they are able to keep their bonus pool below 270. Basically this is to showcase the top 200 players on the server but the activity requirement is there to keep the league from stagnating. If it were just the top 200 then the bottom ~70-80ish slots would probably be fluctuating constantly. Thats what I figured when I read the official blue post. Unfortunately, this makes GM more like the FIRST 200, rather than TOP 200. =/. I'm sure the GM's still deserve their place, but it doesn't give a lot of incentive for those who are close and potentially better to catchup (the whole point of bonus pool). Hard to make a perfect system though. | ||
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noxn
65 Posts
On April 12 2011 16:13 reprise wrote: I distinctly remember reading somewhere that they intended for seasons to be 3-4 months long, but a quick search hasn't yielded a link. The initial WoW arena season lasted much longer than intended, and subsequent season were much shorter. Actually the first season of WoW was one of the shorter ones, at 20 weeks. The shortest, I believe, was 17 weeks. Season 2 was 23, 3 was 29 and season 8 was 37 weeks. Although, I believe them in SC2 if they say that they want future seasons to be shorter because they have no PvE content to balance around. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228179462?page=9#179 So how long does each season go for? Anything confirmed on that? Ideally about three months with a two week lock before the reset. Three months allows for better division placement by the end, and a bonus pool that isn't so huge that unless you're constantly playing never have any hopes to churn through. Season 1 ended up being about nine months, and in the hopes of simply not prolonging it any further, the lock is only one week. There are variables that could dictate when new Seasons happen, but in general we're looking at new Seasons beginning approximately every three months. | ||
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blue001
106 Posts
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
On April 12 2011 09:15 aLt)nirvana wrote: A first glimpse of the GM league + new patch info (all bug fixes) as it has already been released on SEA. (plz dont direct embed the pic here, the site will die lol) http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1168 My first thought - The Grandmaster icon looks way better then the masters icon. My second thought - Wow even more hurdles for players if they want to get to the top of GM. For e.g if they ever fall out of GM and decide to start playing again, they have to wait a week to get promoted to GM(not sure about this). Then they lose all their points and have to start again climbing again from 200+. Not cool at all the "XP Decay" feels like too big of a obligation/commitment if you wanna maintain GM status. Hey, kinda off topic, but is that the iceiceice from DotA? Do you know? | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Therefore, the 200 players placed in GM will be the ones with the highest MMRs across every game of SC2 ever played. Am I incorrect? | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
He is sponsored by FXO now though i think. | ||
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Zyrre
Sweden291 Posts
On April 12 2011 19:03 Chriscras wrote: Does everyone not realize that your MMR was not reset at the end of season 1? Therefore, the 200 players placed in GM will be the ones with the highest MMRs across every game of SC2 ever played. Am I incorrect? This was probably the cause of top players facing low ranked players at the end of season 1. Since the season was so long they contracted the span of mmr so that the top players actually had to play games to get top200. | ||
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