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Performance Enhancing Drug in Starcraft 2? Yes. - Page 3

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Vykenos
Profile Joined September 2009
United States56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 04:23:13
April 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#41
I dont want to pretend to know much about this so I will start with a question: Are the substances banned by most sports clubs also illegal to obtain normally?

My first thought to a topic like this is that it is completely retarded and should be removed by the mods... but if I were to approach it logically my thoughts are that any "drug" that a player may obtain lawfully should not be questioned and those found to be abusing substances obtained unlawfully should be punished/shunned. Using something for concentration in a SC2 compares to a Football/Soccer/Basketball player taking a painkiller or shot for a bad knee in terms of being frowned upon I think.
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Braedenk
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 04:30:44
April 06 2011 04:25 GMT
#42
In one of his dailies day9 said he plays much better with coffee, I've seen a few GSL players with coffee in the booth... It's a performance enhancing stimulant as Adderall is, perhaps not to the same extent, but because it's legally available/socially accepted no one brings it up. Trying to make any solid rules or judgments on this would be very hard I think.

I think this issue is interesting, but with how gray area, unenforceable and uncommon it (probably)is, I imagine it being left by the wayside unless some huge scandal happens.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 06 2011 04:25 GMT
#43
what exactly did TT1 say? may we know? concerning his past background I am skeptical...
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 06 2011 04:28 GMT
#44
On April 06 2011 10:08 Tercotta wrote:
Absolutly not. It gives an advantage to whomever dopes. We do not want to encourage a situation where everyone takes drugs just to keep up, which can become a major health situation.


QFT, this pretty much sums my opinion.


Damn.. I didn't expect that this would actually exist on e-sports... That really sucks.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
April 06 2011 04:30 GMT
#45
I would think it would be pretty hard to regulate adderall as it is easy to get and legal.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
April 06 2011 04:32 GMT
#46
Of course we are gonna see predictable, one-sided poll results whenever we see any issue where people have an emotional knee-jerk reaction such as are common on the issue of drugs. Nothing is black and white, it is always a matter of degrees. You wouldn't punish a player for drinking coffe before a match? Even though it could provide an "unfair" advantage opposed to non-coffee drinkers?

Meh, sheeple aren't rational anyways... society says drugs are bad so the polls will say drugs are bad.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 06 2011 04:33 GMT
#47
I voted no. If you actually have a legit problem that is addressed with drugs, then thats fine. But using it only to enhance your performance like steroids in baseball should not be allowed. E-sports is a sport just like any other and having a fair playing environment is really important.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 06 2011 04:34 GMT
#48
No, but I know pretty much every sport ever has had pros use addy or similar drugs (I know it went around CS and Halo/MLG)
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
April 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#49
On April 06 2011 13:11 ShooTouts wrote:
insert HuK interview here


Yeah... he was REALLY fidgety....
shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
April 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#50
Why does it matter? Are you going to test for it? No, you aren.t
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10318 Posts
April 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#51
Aderall is not a performance-enhancing drug. It is a medication for people who suffer (and yes SUFFER) from ADD.

Stop belittling their condition, and stop spreading falsities about how it makes you better at starcraft. It doesn't.


Medications can enhance performance. Just because you suffer from something does not mean the medication does not more than make up for it...

Who's belittling their condition?

It's not a falsity if he says that someone told him that people do it, unless the person didn't actually say that.

Performance-enhancing drugs don't make you better at starcraft?
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#52
On April 06 2011 13:21 Vykenos wrote:
I dont want to pretend to know much about this so I will start with a question: Are the substances banned by most sports clubs also illegal to obtain normally?

My first thought to a topic like this is that it is completely retarded and should be removed by the mods... but if I were to approach it logically my thoughts are that any "drug" that a player may obtain lawfully should not be questioned and those found to be abusing substances obtained unlawfully should be punished/shunned. Using something for concentration in a SC2 compares to a Football/Soccer/Basketball player taking a painkiller or shot for a bad knee in terms of being frowned upon I think.

Addy is easy to get since ADD is diagnosed so much, I know in Halo it was revealed that players just claimed they had ADD and got Adderall, so yes and no, it's legal over the counter.
luckylefty
Profile Joined November 2010
United States272 Posts
April 06 2011 04:40 GMT
#53
Everyone who actually thinks here, brought up a great point.

Are you going to test for caffeine also, its a drug also.
ki11z0ne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States427 Posts
April 06 2011 04:41 GMT
#54
hahahaha! steroid for gaming i was thinking about this a few days ago hahaha!!!! holy crap this is funny hahaha


it is cheating if pro athletes cant take steroids gamers cant take that. true true this SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP for rules!!!!
SC > halo
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
April 06 2011 04:43 GMT
#55
On April 06 2011 10:14 Tercotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 10:11 Talin wrote:
I can't see how something like this would be enforced, but I indeed voted No.

How about the way it is enforced in every other sport.

So the people who need Adderall can not compete in Starcraft? Seems silly. I vote yes if you have a prescription.
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Atrophy
Profile Joined January 2011
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 04:48:30
April 06 2011 04:47 GMT
#56
On April 06 2011 10:40 MaxPro wrote:
big misconception that adderall makes you better. Only thing it would do is help people concentrate the entire game without their mind slipping off the game and think about the crowd etc..
being a former halo pro i know that 85% of the pros take adderall consistently at tourneys and the owners know it. which is why tests will not be enforced at mlg. remember adderall does not make you a better player. if it provides more exciting matches i dont see what the problem is. Amphetamine-based medications are banned in South Korea. They cannot be obtained at a South Korean pharmacy and are illegal to import. if you think you cannot beat someone because they are on adderall. take it yourself or get pwnd bro



...You were a halo pro? I don't believe you. What was your tag.

And I thought gamers taking adderall to enhance their performance was common knowledge.
Bread779
Profile Joined October 2010
United States27 Posts
April 06 2011 04:48 GMT
#57
You guys do realize how easy it is to get a prescription of Adderall right? So saying its ok if you have a prescription seems like a joke.
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 06 2011 04:48 GMT
#58
I voted no but there's no drug tests or anything so there's no point in making a rule/law like that.
please
Profile Joined March 2011
Benin60 Posts
April 06 2011 04:53 GMT
#59
when there is as much money on the line as there is at some of the big tournaments, it would be really disappointing to see drugs involved in competition. I dont want to accuse anyone of anything, but as it has already been mentioned, that huk interview was really strange. However, you cant really regulate the over use of caffeine either, and that definitely helps while gaming.
지지
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 05:03:34
April 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#60
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant#Caffeine

While I agree in theory that the so-called "stimulants" shouldn't be allowed, in the long run using them will only hurt the players. As someone who used caffeine products for a very long time and a lot, they actually hinder your thought process. After pretty much one day you have to start using them to just keep up your normal state of thought.

If you don't, you will get these headaches and.. stress I would say. This effect has caused me more harm on my intellectual process (studies etc) than anything else. And I'm talking about regular coffee, imagine what kind of mental harm stronger substances will do.

Yes for one day they will perform better, for like 6 hours, but after that they'll do more harm than good.

But I guess banning wouldn't hurt.
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