Wow, overwhelming majority for GSTL huh? I've only been watching the GSL, guess it's time to tune in to GSTL as well. ^^

If it's really that much better, I'm freaking excited!

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts

March 24 2011 01:50 GMT

#142

I think that it would be even better if it followed Proleague format rather than the Winner's League All-Kill format.

TheRPGAddict

United States1403 Posts

March 24 2011 01:52 GMT

#143

On March 24 2011 10:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I think that it would be even better if it followed Proleague format rather than the Winner's League All-Kill format.

Yeah, this would be awesome because it would force us to see more matchups between a larger pool of players instead of having the team bonjwa take everyone out. I think a good mix would be appropriate.

Nillinch

Poland147 Posts

March 24 2011 01:58 GMT

#144

I like them both equally.

Why there is no alternative option on the pool?

adalcim

Germany166 Posts

March 24 2011 02:05 GMT

#145

I am surprised that more people prefer GSTL. Personally I like both and think the should overthink their concept of the teamleague. I would prefer to watch something similiar to the BW Proleague. Now we have just one week with team-games and thats not enough.

Danners933

Canada76 Posts

March 24 2011 02:05 GMT

#146

I like the GSTL way more than the GSL when it comes to the drama and excitement. We get to see players who haven't made the Code A or S come in and kick some serious ass! What I think would be cool for the next time they do a GSTL is to do it 4v4 style. Make it a Bo3 4v4. That would be nuts to commentate but that would definately be action packed and it's something different to try. We don't see many team game tournaments. I would like to see something different then 1v1 once in a while in the pro scene.

nanoscorp

United States1237 Posts

March 24 2011 02:07 GMT

#147

I like GSTL because there are a lot of points where momentum shifts. Some of the GSL matches are pretty one-sided, and while there have been a few epic series, I don't think they compare to what we've seen in GSTL. Bomber v MVP in season one, Bomber v MMA last night, for example. After each game, the losing coach gets to dig through his bench and come up with a new player, so instead of July vs MC for 5 pretty similar games, a player who wants to all-kill has to face a wide variety of opponents and strategies.

neo_sporin

United States516 Posts

March 24 2011 02:09 GMT

#148

The one thing that I think could make GSTL better would be to have 1 slot for team foreigners where all the foreigners in S/A/B get to form a team. As it is I think the league requires 8 players on each team and that just wont happen for a loooooong time for an actual foreigner team to get enough people in korea to compete. Right now TLAF has 2 people in code S and 1 in A but those are the only 3 people in korea so they cannot compete in GSTL. Think if they allowd Huk, Jinro, Ret, Moonglade, Loner, Torch, +2 more compete together as team foreigners.

As it is GOM already reserves 4 code A spots to top foreigners, which comes to 1/8 of the code A bracket. I don't think it would be completely unreasonable to give 1/8 of the GSTL bracket to foreigners as well.

Additionally right now I can't even think of a 9th team that even comes close to qualifying for GSTL, at least this way those 8 teams that have been in both seasons have to compete to not be booted by adding another team.

TheRPGAddict

United States1403 Posts

March 24 2011 02:12 GMT

#149

Also, as people have said, we get to see talent that has not had the opportunity to show itself in Code A or S that is clearly good enough.

Heyoka

Katowice25012 Posts

March 24 2011 02:15 GMT

#150

I will always be highly in favor of team leagues. Regularly running proleague has been the best part of Brood War, its a great place for up and coming players to earn their chops and the playstyles/player groups are a lot more diverse. Awesome format.

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

March 24 2011 02:16 GMT

#151

I have always preferred individual leagues and still do.

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

March 24 2011 02:17 GMT

#152

I'm sure it's been said but I didn't read through all the pages... but they should have more matches like 2 groups of 4 teams so that we can see how more teams stack up against each other. Also, they could possibly include lesser known teams into 2 groups of 5. That may also be an opportunity to include foreign teams since the team leagues are spread out and don't last nearly as long... but I guess that's going a bit off of the main point. The GSTL season should be longer. :-|

Mailing

United States3087 Posts

March 24 2011 02:17 GMT

#153

People do tend to do more interesting builds in GSTL.

Is it because the prize pool is smaller, so less pressure?

Is it because you have teammates to fall back on if you fail?

DarthXX

Australia998 Posts

March 24 2011 02:18 GMT

#154

Without GSTL we may never have gotten to know about SlayerSMin, Ryung and IMSeed and the like. Great format. It also produces some of the craziest games ever, like Bomber v MMA from last night for example. In addition to being a testing ground for new strats, its a testing ground for new maps as well.

Plus all that fire and shit is awesome before the games start

Tschis

Brazil1511 Posts

March 24 2011 02:21 GMT

#155

On March 24 2011 09:29 xza wrote:

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woops sry didnt see that properly haha, all-kill is 4-0 right? not 3-0?

Yeah, but it also means his team can not lose any match, I think

//tx

ROOTIllusion

United States1060 Posts

March 24 2011 04:35 GMT

#156

Team leagues could pressure the player more (tied situation, one more to win) so it makes for far more dramatic, intense and close games ^^.

bittman

Australia8759 Posts

March 24 2011 04:39 GMT

#157

I actually wish that more teams could apply to compete in the GSTL rather than simply relying upon a certain number of Code A + S players. Like there was some sort of qualification process available to smaller teams with only a couple of powerful players ranking in GSL (e.g. FOX or Liquid).

Could even seed some teams if they don't just want to buff it up to a Ro16 by giving the top 4 of last GSTL a "bye".

But yeah, part of my personal thrill of watching the GSTL is looking at the potential for unknown players. Too often we see all these code A names drop in and out, and part of the time it's just a bit of bad luck as an up and comer gets a poor draw. So I would love to see a non-GSL-point reliant teamleague with actual team qualifications.

Perhaps GOM could give "points" to players of a team that are in Code B? (i.e. top 200 of Korean ladder) if they wanted to use their current system. S = 1.6, A = 1, B = 0.3 or something along those lines.

Tl;dr: Would like to see GSTL be for more than 8 teams.

Sarang

Australia2363 Posts

March 24 2011 04:40 GMT

#158

Vastly prefer the GSTL.

Team vs. Team battles are far, far more epic and entertaining than just single series. Seeing a team as fearsome as IM taking on the very impressive SlayerS in the GSTL finals ... I find that quite a bit more epic than an ordinary 1v1 finals.